post mix up

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There seems to be some confusion here. The 'from' line has my name

on it but the post is Snehalata - Dixie Thacker's, not mine. I guess

too can mix up posts. :-)))

 

 

 

Ammachi, "Dixie Thacker" <dixielou@s...>

wrote:

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> markasme

> Ammachi

> Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:39 PM

> Re: My Golden Mother, finances and all of us.

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> Dear Bala,

>

> Please don't drop the list; your posts have been wonderful and

you would surely be missed.

>

> I am relatively new to the list and I, too, would like to see us

discuss our spiritual growth more frequently than we do and be much

more supportive of each other. While I have found great support

here personally, I feel somewhat unsettled when we seem to be

jumping at each other and arguing issues that have nothing to with

our growth (I was BRAND new when the discussion about dealing with

flower petals hit and kept hoping that more serious issues were the

norm!).

>

> I enjoy hearing from each of you and think we should have room

for all discussions that genuinely reflect an effort to grow

spiritually and become the realized people we claim we are striving

to become. There are too many good hearts here for us to lose each

other.

>

> Love to you all,

> Snehalata

>

>

> Dear Shankar,

>

> It is obvious you love amma very much and I so am glad you do.

My

> intention was not to ask is amma 'misusing' the money. Deep down

> even I FEEL she isn't. I have met her many, many times, so I too

> know. My question is in the nature of how much do you all KNOW

of

> the organization you are funding? As you can see not one of you

has

> answered that.

>

> Besides, Shankar you seem to be an Indian. It is okay in your

> culture to give up control to a superior being, that is not the

case

> in the US. 9/11 happened on North American soil. In bad

economic

> times, when so much American money is being funneled out of the

US

> to a foreign agency and very few on this list even want to know

how

> it is spent, it is of a VERY genuine concern for security

agencies

> monitoring such groups in the US. The other concern of course

is

> the demand to silence such questions with 'need to moderate" or

> else, " me".

>

> I didn't know yesterday was Ammachi's birthstar birthday. No one

> stopped you from wishing her that. Anyway happy birthday

Ammachi.

>

> The discussion is getting very emotional. So I am going to say

adieu

> at this point. You are welcome to go one discussing this or

change

> the topic.

>

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> Ammachi, balakrishnan Shankar

> <balakrishnan_sh> wrote:

> > Namah Shivaya

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> > Yesterday was Amma's birthstar. In india we celebrate the

> birthstar day as the birthday, so we had a puja here at M.A

center.

> It saddened me to see any number of useless posts on the

finances of

> Amma's ashram etc and not even one wishing her a happy birthday.

> >

> > Dear 'markasme'- when you say "Surely Amma must be getting a

> portion of all the donations'- i am tempted to say 'Surely you

have

> no idea of Amma's selflessness'.. you probably have never met

Amma

> before.. i dont know, but when you say something like that with

> a 'surely' please make sure that your allegation is founded in

fact.

> >

> > Amma wears her body out giving darshan. She suffers a lot of

> physical pain by just giving darshan. You compared her to a

grocery

> clerk who stands for 8 hours. No grocery clerk i know of, will

wear

> his/her body away voluntarily. No grocery clerk i know of goes

> without sleep for up to a month or sleeps for 2 hours, hardly

eats

> and does all this for 30 years . Grocery clerks, and others work

> hard because they HAVE TO- Amma works herself out in pure

> sacrifice. If she were after money or if she were attached to

> money, as you seem to suggest, she would have retired long ago

and

> would be living luxuriously in some resort somewhere- but she

> continues to live in the same room built for her 20 years ago,

> continues to wear her body out night and day, continues to give

> solace to millions and continues to meet one and all unmindful

of

> the physical strain.

> >

> > I know of nobody else who could have hugged a leper and

licked

> his wounds and cured him. I know of no one who can cure

dieseases

> with a touch, can grant visions, can coordinate the inner lives

of

> thousands. I have personally come across cases of Amma's saving

> grace, protecting touch in many people's lives, including mine.

> >

> > while i understand that your concerns are probably more with

> the 'organization' than with Amma herself, nevertheless i cannot

> digest your statement 'surely she gets a proceed of the

donations'-

> how do you know? how can you be so sure? this is because you are

> judging her with the same standards that you judge anyone else

who

> is still in the grip of their ego and maya. I dont blame you for

> that , this is human nature. We cannot beleive that there can be

> anyone really selfless, really giving unconditional love. Also,

we

> have seen many false masters in the past.

> >

> > There may be many false masters, but i assure you there are

even

> a greater number of false disciples!! let us purify our hearts

> first, let us sincerely attempt to realize God and to put down

our

> ego- the True master will automatically come to us. We dont have

to

> search for him.

> >

> > We crucify the Greatest masters, vilify them with slander and

> abuse , and then complain that we get false masters. The buddha

was

> poisoned, Krishna was slandered, Christ was crucified, Sri

> Ramakrishna was called 'mad'. Swami Vivekananda was called

> a 'heathen' ....

> >

> > The problem is we always see faults in everyone.. So much so

that

> our eyes cannot recognise goodness. So even if the Greatest

Beings

> walk in front of us, we probably will doubt and suspect them.

> >

> > i dont know what started the process.. did false masters

cause us

> to lose faith in all masters, or was it our lack of faith that

> drives away the Genuine ones and leaves us only with the false

> teachers?

> >

> > Peter- please me from this net. I dont see posts

that

> discuss experiences with Amma , or that come from seekers. All i

see

> is constant debate if Amma is genuine or not - and i thought

this

> was a list for Amma devotees to talk about Her and our spiritual

> growth. I dont see how 9/11, the funding of saudis, or grocery

> clerks or comparisions with the TM movement have anything to do

with

> our spiritual growth as disciples.

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