Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 Kandar, It is really too bad that Mark has been kicked out of the list. Why don't you post a message saying what it was that he had done that was so obnoxious? I really enjoyed his posts; they provided a change from the usual devotional stuff, from critical (does not mean only negatively critical) masculine mind. Not that I don't like the devotional stuff, but you cannot eat just sweets all the time. Nandu vallathn _______________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 I agree. markasme should not have been banned from the list. If we can't stand being questioned, perhaps we need to re-evaluate our positions. -girish On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Vallath Nandakumar wrote: > > Kandar, > > It is really too bad that Mark has been kicked out of the list. Why don't > you post > a message saying what it was that he had done that was so obnoxious? I > really > enjoyed his posts; they provided a change from the usual devotional stuff, > from > critical (does not mean only negatively critical) masculine mind. Not that > I don't like the devotional stuff, > but you cannot eat just sweets all the time. > > Nandu > vallathn > > _______________ > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month > (depending on the local service providers in your area). > https://broadband.msn.com > > > Sponsor > > click here > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 I agree as well. Ammachi, Girish <girishv@e...> wrote: > I agree. > markasme should not have been banned from the list. > If we can't stand being questioned, perhaps we need to re-evaluate our positions. > > -girish > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Vallath Nandakumar wrote: > > > > > Kandar, > > > > It is really too bad that Mark has been kicked out of the list. Why don't > > you post > > a message saying what it was that he had done that was so obnoxious? I > > really > > enjoyed his posts; they provided a change from the usual devotional stuff, > > from > > critical (does not mean only negatively critical) masculine mind. Not that > > I don't like the devotional stuff, > > but you cannot eat just sweets all the time. > > > > Nandu > > vallathn@h... > > > > _______________ > > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month > > (depending on the local service providers in your area). > > https://broadband.msn.com > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > click here > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > Ammachi > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 Thank you, Girish, for your sensible perspective. Some weeks ago I posted some views of what I see goes on around Amma, in the organization of western devotees, and the response it evoked was sarcasm, condescension and, above all, defensiveness. What was I expecting? This seems not to be a forum where one is free to express views that diverge from the PC views of devotees without getting skewered for them. This is the mind set of a cult. One devotee gently advised me to follow my heart, and I thank her for her kindness. Here is a reminder: Amma is not preaching a religion. I am very turned off by the Hindu religious aspect of what I see at programs which conflicts with my own practice. I'm sorry if some devotees get bent out of shape about that. Amma personally gave me Her blessing to pursue the path I am on. When I felt badly about not being able to do the arcana at Amritapuri some years ago,She also told me that She would not want me (or any of us) to do any practice that did not come from our hearts. Am I a devotee? I don't know. I visit this site because I like to read inspirational stories of Amma. She has told devotees that they need to grow up. Becoming tolerant and respectful of others is a step towards spiritual maturity. Blessings to all. Susheelan Ammachi, Girish <girishv@e...> wrote: > I agree. > markasme should not have been banned from the list. > If we can't stand being questioned, perhaps we need to re-evaluate our positions. > > -girish > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Vallath Nandakumar wrote: > > > > > Kandar, > > > > It is really too bad that Mark has been kicked out of the list. Why don't > > you post > > a message saying what it was that he had done that was so obnoxious? I > > really > > enjoyed his posts; they provided a change from the usual devotional stuff, > > from > > critical (does not mean only negatively critical) masculine mind. Not that > > I don't like the devotional stuff, > > but you cannot eat just sweets all the time. > > > > Nandu > > vallathn@h... > > > > _______________ > > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month > > (depending on the local service providers in your area). > > https://broadband.msn.com > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > click here > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > Ammachi > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, susheelanji wrote: > Here is a reminder: Amma is not preaching a religion. I disagree - if you remove Krishna and Devi from the environment which surrounds Amma, what do you have left ? Krishna and Devi are very much a part of the "Hindu" religion or Sanathana Dharma and no amount of syntactic wrangling is going to change that. To my understanding, Amma is not preaching that Hinduism is the only way, or Christianity is the only way. She guides each person based on what is his/her inclination. This _does not_ mean "no religion". - Girish > I am very turned off > by the Hindu religious aspect of what I see at programs which > conflicts with my own practice. I'm sorry if some devotees get bent > out of shape about that. Amma personally gave me Her blessing to > pursue the path I am on. When I felt badly about not being able to do > the arcana at Amritapuri some years ago,She also told me that She > would not want me (or any of us) to do any practice that did not come > from our hearts. Am I a devotee? I don't know. I visit this site > because I like to read inspirational stories of Amma. She has told > devotees that they need to grow up. Becoming tolerant and respectful > of others is a step towards spiritual maturity. Blessings to all. > > Susheelan > > > > Ammachi, Girish <girishv@e...> wrote: > > I agree. > > markasme should not have been banned from the list. > > If we can't stand being questioned, perhaps we need to re-evaluate > our positions. > > > > -girish > > > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Vallath Nandakumar wrote: > > > > > > > > Kandar, > > > > > > It is really too bad that Mark has been kicked out of the list. > Why don't > > > you post > > > a message saying what it was that he had done that was so > obnoxious? I > > > really > > > enjoyed his posts; they provided a change from the usual > devotional stuff, > > > from > > > critical (does not mean only negatively critical) masculine mind. > Not that > > > I don't like the devotional stuff, > > > but you cannot eat just sweets all the time. > > > > > > Nandu > > > vallathn@h... > > > > > > _______________ > > > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month > > > (depending on the local service providers in your area). > > > https://broadband.msn.com > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > click here > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > Ammachi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > Click to learn more... > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 First of all, I want to preface this comment with the fact that I don't always read all the emails from this group or read them carefully, so I may have missed this announcement and the explanation of Mark being "kicked out". What I did want to comment on is the possibility that someone has seen that his name is missing from the list, and assumes that he's been kicked out. Remember that a lot of devotees are in India right now, and may have d, because they don't want a ton of email in their box when they get home, and will re- when they return. There is also the possibility that Mark chose to drop out. I don't know the details of this, so I just wanted to offer those possibilities before we jump to conclusions and get upset. I suspect the moderator may also be in India right now and may not be avaiable for immediate comment. So perhaps we can all exercise some patience with this until the facts are offered. Meanwhile, I am happy that it's Amma's birthday. Blessings, Achintya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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