Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 This is a change of subject, but... "life is a constant oscillation between internal bliss and external sensory enjoyments. This "tug of war" has a strain on the nerves.." When I went to see Amma in RI, I experienced moments of bliss unlike anything I'd ever known. That feeling lasted for three weeks solid when I got back home. I was happy every day, all day long for those weeks and it was incredible. To be honest, it was the happiest I'd ever been in my whole life. Anyway, what that statement above reminded me was that during that period, I couldn't listen to any of my CDs! All the music I used to listen to at work that I like so much (XTC, Fiona Apple, even the Beatles) suddenly hurt to listen to, like it was a "strain on the nerves"! I didn't want anything in my head except the echo of bhajans from my trip! After a week I consented to let my co-worker play anything without lyrics, and that lasted for about a two more months. Oh, They're playing "Durge Durge" on Amma Radio right now!!!!!!! Gabriela --- manoj_menon <manoj_menon wrote: > Ammachi, "Erica" > <sugarandbrine> wrote: > > Namaste to all... _/\_ > > > > I was wondering if anyone ever has moments of > wavering faith. I > seem > > to be in a state right now where my faith in Amma > is wavering, no > > matter how much I want to be near her in my head, > my heart seems > to > > be elsewhere. I guess I am bogged down by > something. > > > Is it not the other way around? You would want to be > near her in > your heart, but your head seems to be elsewhere. > > > > I don't know how to get through this strange > state; just last > week, the sight of our Ma singing bhajans brought me > to tears and > now I am feeling no connection. How to get through > this state and > return to Ma? > > > > Hopefully, > > Erica > > Surrender is the only key. Be a witness to your own > wanderings. > Eventually, the turbelence of the mind wanes, as it > has to. You will > then feel the connection again. Deep breaths are > helpful; suspending > thoughts and judgments (especially about yourself) > is critical. > Above all, cry out to Her to help you out. > > When you get a hang of the 'skill' (a better word > than 'technique'), > you will observe that it lesser time to "come out of > it" than when > you did it initially. > > BTW, these are not time-tested skills in the sense > that they have > been tested across a cross-section of people over > time, just some > that I have applied to myself intuitively in my > life. They work > reasonably well for me, which is not to say that > they will work for > everyone. Good luck! > > Ramana Maharishi often said that a sadhak's life is > a constant > oscillation between internal bliss and external > sensory enjoyments. > This "tug of war" has a strain on the nerves, which > sometimes > exhibits as exasperation, anger, helplessness (as in > your case > above), or other such negative attitudes. > > He has a simple but seemingly harsh solution: You > need to keep > working on it till the conflict ends. And he assures > us that it > will, if we keep trying. > > When you think of it, that is the best solution.... > The only thing > is you need to keep your energy level high and your > chin up. . > > Jai Ma! > > The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 - Miranda Soliz Ammachi Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:17 AM Re: Strain on the nerves Namaste to All, In response to wavering: I don't think my faith in Amma ever wavers but it does feel odd to me sometimes. I was raised Christian and have always had a strong personal relationship with Christ (from my end, anyway!); I did not, tho, care for the way Christianity exists in our churches today and knew that my needs were not being met there anymore. Amma to me, is my Satguru, an avatar, and the Divine Mother - as well as the perfect embodiment of Christ's teaching. My 'snags' come, I think, from the fact that Amma is present on earth with us and, while She is, for me, a true embodiment of God on earth, it seems strange to read news articles about what a Holy Being is doing on a given day. Christ was always in my heart....Amma is in my real life and it feels quite different. Awesome, surreal, wonderful, mind boggling, and humbling all at the same time. I will probably always tear up when I hear some Christian songs and also feel I have found God in Amma's love. Love, Dixie/Snehalata This is a change of subject, but... "life is a constant oscillation between internal bliss and external sensory enjoyments. This "tug of war" has a strain on the nerves.." When I went to see Amma in RI, I experienced moments of bliss unlike anything I'd ever known. That feeling lasted for three weeks solid when I got back home. I was happy every day, all day long for those weeks and it was incredible. To be honest, it was the happiest I'd ever been in my whole life. Anyway, what that statement above reminded me was that during that period, I couldn't listen to any of my CDs! All the music I used to listen to at work that I like so much (XTC, Fiona Apple, even the Beatles) suddenly hurt to listen to, like it was a "strain on the nerves"! I didn't want anything in my head except the echo of bhajans from my trip! After a week I consented to let my co-worker play anything without lyrics, and that lasted for about a two more months. Oh, They're playing "Durge Durge" on Amma Radio right now!!!!!!! Gabriela --- manoj_menon <manoj_menon wrote: > Ammachi, "Erica" > <sugarandbrine> wrote: > > Namaste to all... _/\_ > > > > I was wondering if anyone ever has moments of > wavering faith. I > seem > > to be in a state right now where my faith in Amma > is wavering, no > > matter how much I want to be near her in my head, > my heart seems > to > > be elsewhere. I guess I am bogged down by > something. > > > Is it not the other way around? You would want to be > near her in > your heart, but your head seems to be elsewhere. > > > > I don't know how to get through this strange > state; just last > week, the sight of our Ma singing bhajans brought me > to tears and > now I am feeling no connection. How to get through > this state and > return to Ma? > > > > Hopefully, > > Erica > > Surrender is the only key. Be a witness to your own > wanderings. > Eventually, the turbelence of the mind wanes, as it > has to. You will > then feel the connection again. Deep breaths are > helpful; suspending > thoughts and judgments (especially about yourself) > is critical. > Above all, cry out to Her to help you out. > > When you get a hang of the 'skill' (a better word > than 'technique'), > you will observe that it lesser time to "come out of > it" than when > you did it initially. > > BTW, these are not time-tested skills in the sense > that they have > been tested across a cross-section of people over > time, just some > that I have applied to myself intuitively in my > life. They work > reasonably well for me, which is not to say that > they will work for > everyone. Good luck! > > Ramana Maharishi often said that a sadhak's life is > a constant > oscillation between internal bliss and external > sensory enjoyments. > This "tug of war" has a strain on the nerves, which > sometimes > exhibits as exasperation, anger, helplessness (as in > your case > above), or other such negative attitudes. > > He has a simple but seemingly harsh solution: You > need to keep > working on it till the conflict ends. And he assures > us that it > will, if we keep trying. > > When you think of it, that is the best solution.... > The only thing > is you need to keep your energy level high and your > chin up. . > > Jai Ma! > > The New with improved product search Sponsor Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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