Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 As for Amma giving us direction, I guess the best thing to do is to simply follow her directions in the books available to us until such time we are told differently by her. That's hard, too. When considering her words in all the books, on the websites, etc., there's stuff we can be doing all the time in addition to saying our mantra. For anyone who may have not already done the reading, Amma gives directions for when to wake up, what to do/say upon waking, what side of the bed to get up on and what to say/do next. There are observances and words before showering, eating, at sunrise and sunset, etc. Then there's the peace chant every night, the hour of selfless service every day, the weekly or monthly satsang, etc. *** It can seem quite overwhelming in the beginning, but I can tell you that having incorporated a few practices into my daily routine already that it simply becomes what you do. Whenever I find myself wishing Amma could give me direct guidance, I remember that she has through all the books. It's all there, what we can be doing. And as you say, Omana, we ought not to have attachment to the outcome. All these practices must be done for the sake of each practice, not as a stepping-stone to enlightenment otherwise we risk cheapening the practice. I'm guilty of it, I know that as I write this. But I'll keep trying until it is effortless because also as Amma says, "Where there's love, there's no effort". I'm rambling. With love, Gabriela *** I haven't found a single compendium of spiritual practices. If there's isn't one, I was considering begining to compile these things into a document to share. Sort of a handbook on practicle spiritual living as described by Amma for the non-Ashramite. Any thoughts on that? --- Omana <eveningstar8 wrote: > Amma gives us clear directions about how to practice > and about our > sadhana. I've read, and heard Her say that there are > no short cuts in > our spiritual practice, that to seek to speed up the > process is > incorrect, and that we should practice without > attachment to the > results. Very easy to say, much harder to do. > > I try to remember when I start to think, "What kind > of progress am I > making?Why haven't I had the experiences that > others speak of?" > etc. etc. etc. that my mind is again trapping me. > Where I am right > NOW in my sadhana is exactly where I need to be. All > I need to do is > have faith in my guru, and put forth the effort. > > Sadhana, sadhana, sadhana... > > Jai Ma, > Omana > > Ammachi, "childofdevi" > <childofdevi> > wrote: > > explodes and all I typically see is either massive > pink or > periwinkle > > jumbles of "light." I don't know what I am > missing that prevents > me > > from seeing the spiritual eye, let alone opening > the center of it. > > It seems that there are layers to be "looked thru" > (geez, words are > > inadequate in these matters, aren't they?) and I > seem basically > > incapable of locating the place to begin. > > been removed] > > ----------------------------- > > Hey Snehalata, > > > > Any light that you see at the third eye is a sign > of progress(there > > are actually several third eyes from the > mid-eyebrow point to the > > hairline but the most important one is in between > the brows). > > > > Only after several years of practice does one see > the third eye(a > > blue pearl, a five pointed golden star, or a great > ball of light > > brighter than the sun depending on the tradition). > > > > The best technique for awakening the third eye is > called shambavi > > mudra or the frontal gaze- roll up the eyeballs up > and gaze at the > > point between the brows initially with eyes open, > then with eyes > half > > closed and then eyes fully closed(pretty > difficult) keeping the > > eyeballs still; > > > > There are other practices- the yogic yoni > mudra(not the tantric > yoni > > mudra), trataka etc.... all ideally have to be > practiced for > several > > hours every day... who has the time for that these > days:-( > > > > regards > > yogaman > > The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 - Miranda Soliz Ammachi Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:11 PM Re: Spiritual practice Dear Child of Devi; The thread may have gotten tangled and it appears that you were thought to have asked about seeing the third eye. I asked (Snehalata) and do appreciate the responses that have been coming forth. Thank you, brothers and sisters. I am reexamining my need to know this in light of some of your thoughts; I had believed I asked to see if there was something wrong with my technique - much as someone asked whether pronunciation of mantras, Hindu words, etc in our practices would influence their efficacy, but my need to know could well have been deeper. Thanks again-since I've read extensively about this and haven't been able to add it to my practice, I may well not be ready. At Amma's feet, Snehalata As for Amma giving us direction, I guess the best thing to do is to simply follow her directions in the books available to us until such time we are told differently by her. That's hard, too. When considering her words in all the books, on the websites, etc., there's stuff we can be doing all the time in addition to saying our mantra. For anyone who may have not already done the reading, Amma gives directions for when to wake up, what to do/say upon waking, what side of the bed to get up on and what to say/do next. There are observances and words before showering, eating, at sunrise and sunset, etc. Then there's the peace chant every night, the hour of selfless service every day, the weekly or monthly satsang, etc. *** It can seem quite overwhelming in the beginning, but I can tell you that having incorporated a few practices into my daily routine already that it simply becomes what you do. Whenever I find myself wishing Amma could give me direct guidance, I remember that she has through all the books. It's all there, what we can be doing. And as you say, Omana, we ought not to have attachment to the outcome. All these practices must be done for the sake of each practice, not as a stepping-stone to enlightenment otherwise we risk cheapening the practice. I'm guilty of it, I know that as I write this. But I'll keep trying until it is effortless because also as Amma says, "Where there's love, there's no effort". I'm rambling. With love, Gabriela *** I haven't found a single compendium of spiritual practices. If there's isn't one, I was considering begining to compile these things into a document to share. Sort of a handbook on practicle spiritual living as described by Amma for the non-Ashramite. Any thoughts on that? --- Omana <eveningstar8 wrote: > Amma gives us clear directions about how to practice > and about our > sadhana. I've read, and heard Her say that there are > no short cuts in > our spiritual practice, that to seek to speed up the > process is > incorrect, and that we should practice without > attachment to the > results. Very easy to say, much harder to do. > > I try to remember when I start to think, "What kind > of progress am I > making?Why haven't I had the experiences that > others speak of?" > etc. etc. etc. that my mind is again trapping me. > Where I am right > NOW in my sadhana is exactly where I need to be. All > I need to do is > have faith in my guru, and put forth the effort. > > Sadhana, sadhana, sadhana... > > Jai Ma, > Omana > > Ammachi, "childofdevi" > <childofdevi> > wrote: > > explodes and all I typically see is either massive > pink or > periwinkle > > jumbles of "light." I don't know what I am > missing that prevents > me > > from seeing the spiritual eye, let alone opening > the center of it. > > It seems that there are layers to be "looked thru" > (geez, words are > > inadequate in these matters, aren't they?) and I > seem basically > > incapable of locating the place to begin. > > been removed] > > ----------------------------- > > Hey Snehalata, > > > > Any light that you see at the third eye is a sign > of progress(there > > are actually several third eyes from the > mid-eyebrow point to the > > hairline but the most important one is in between > the brows). > > > > Only after several years of practice does one see > the third eye(a > > blue pearl, a five pointed golden star, or a great > ball of light > > brighter than the sun depending on the tradition). > > > > The best technique for awakening the third eye is > called shambavi > > mudra or the frontal gaze- roll up the eyeballs up > and gaze at the > > point between the brows initially with eyes open, > then with eyes > half > > closed and then eyes fully closed(pretty > difficult) keeping the > > eyeballs still; > > > > There are other practices- the yogic yoni > mudra(not the tantric > yoni > > mudra), trataka etc.... all ideally have to be > practiced for > several > > hours every day... who has the time for that these > days:-( > > > > regards > > yogaman > > The New with improved product search Sponsor Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! 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