Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Hi, everyone, I've been following the strand on effort/non-effort with great interest. In the book "After the Ecstasy, the Laundry" by Jack Kornfield he talks about the effortless way vs. the way of effort and says: (pp.98) "Perhaps to be accurate, we could add a fifth way to the four paths of spiritual unfolding described by the Buddha. That is the way that involves no effort, no speed, and no journey. Instead of passing through the gate of oneness or the gate of sorrow, we pass through the gateless gate, the realization that the whole idea of journey and striving is an illusion. Where we're going is here. To understand this better, we need to acknowledge two complementary ways in which awakening and illumination are discovered. One is through the path of striving and effort, the other through the path of noneffort. In the path of effort you purify yourself, you struggle to release all the obstacles to being present, you focus yourself on awakening or illumination so fully that everything else falls away. Finally you are forced to release the one last grasping, the desire for enlightenment, and in this letting go, everything becomes clear. In the path of noneffort, there is no struggle. You open yourself to the reality of the present. To rest in the sense of naturalness is all that is asked. Out of this, all understanding and compassion follow. In fact, both ways are at times part of everyone's journey. Both ways lead to letting go. As one of my teachers, Dipama, would say, "Both ways are best." Wise effort is important. Yet no matter how arduous the path, and how much effort is expended, in the end the awakening of the heart comes as an act of grace, like a spring wind that wafts away all our concerns and fears, that refreshes the heart. To meditate and pray and listen is like throwing the doors and windows open. You can't plan for the breeze. As Suzuki Roshi puts it, "You can't make a date with enlightenment." And a similar saying goes, "Gaining enlightenment is an accident. Spiritual practice simply makes us accident-prone." My own personal preference for my individual sadhana is the effortless way. My ego-tendencies have typically been ones of avoidance and escapism from the reality of day to day living. So, for ME, finally surrendering to the flow of my life as it unfolds and learning to rest in the present moment as a gift, as the presence of God in the formed and formless expressions of my day, is the only 'effort' that seems to make sense to me, given my particular ego- based structure. This is not to say that I don't attempt to look at and correct the ways my personality operates to deny me that experience of Presence. Both ways of effort/noneffort seem to operate hand in hand, or close on the heels of each other in my life. The main thing that I think affects the outcome of any effort in life is the degree to which we practice out of a sense of love for the practice itself without any other motive. In that place of love and acceptance, the effortless moment of 'present' awareness arises. It feels natural and contented and at rest, even in the midst of the activity. The practice itself, as experienced in the eternal mMoment, becomes the reward, and not a stepping-stone to something bigger or better. Love, Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 - pamkowal Ammachi Saturday, November 08, 2003 7:19 PM Effort vs. non-effort YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! This is what I have been trying so crudely to say, and it's what my Taoist friend has been telling me: thank you so much for the beautiful clarity. I have nearly worn poor yogaman out with my meanderings and you summed it up just exquisitely- with total surrender, all does become Love, and all acts of devotion are truly that. My one split second experience with this - or a glimpse of something quite similar also led me to believe that physical space is completely irrelevant and not even as we believe it to be. There seemed to be no borders between me and anything else and the "space" within the room I was in felt much, much too large to have been contained within it. Nor could the stillness -so absolutely filled with an aura of utter peace and rightness - have occured as it did because I was in a classroom full of teenagers at the time and there is never anything close to silence with 25 thirteen year olds present. The whatever didn't last long and has only occured one other time but I don't know what borught it on or, conversely, what stopped it. I do believe we should live in the best way possible but I still cannot help but believe that awakening can, and does, occur within the twinkling of that proverbial eye if the seeker simply stops seeking long and truly believes - without having to find it first. So, thank you, Pam, and dear Yogaman, Pam said just what I've been thinking and have been unable to get clear. You two have been Amma-sends for me lately. I don't know if it is having finished my japa and celebrated the convergence to the best of my ability, but tonight feels as expectant as Christmas Eve did when I was little. Love, Snehalata Hi, everyone, I've been following the strand on effort/non-effort with great interest. In the book "After the Ecstasy, the Laundry" by Jack Kornfield he talks about the effortless way vs. the way of effort and says: (pp.98) "Perhaps to be accurate, we could add a fifth way to the four paths of spiritual unfolding described by the Buddha. That is the way that involves no effort, no speed, and no journey. Instead of passing through the gate of oneness or the gate of sorrow, we pass through the gateless gate, the realization that the whole idea of journey and striving is an illusion. Where we're going is here. To understand this better, we need to acknowledge two complementary ways in which awakening and illumination are discovered. One is through the path of striving and effort, the other through the path of noneffort. In the path of effort you purify yourself, you struggle to release all the obstacles to being present, you focus yourself on awakening or illumination so fully that everything else falls away. Finally you are forced to release the one last grasping, the desire for enlightenment, and in this letting go, everything becomes clear. In the path of noneffort, there is no struggle. You open yourself to the reality of the present. To rest in the sense of naturalness is all that is asked. Out of this, all understanding and compassion follow. In fact, both ways are at times part of everyone's journey. Both ways lead to letting go. As one of my teachers, Dipama, would say, "Both ways are best." Wise effort is important. Yet no matter how arduous the path, and how much effort is expended, in the end the awakening of the heart comes as an act of grace, like a spring wind that wafts away all our concerns and fears, that refreshes the heart. To meditate and pray and listen is like throwing the doors and windows open. You can't plan for the breeze. As Suzuki Roshi puts it, "You can't make a date with enlightenment." And a similar saying goes, "Gaining enlightenment is an accident. Spiritual practice simply makes us accident-prone." My own personal preference for my individual sadhana is the effortless way. My ego-tendencies have typically been ones of avoidance and escapism from the reality of day to day living. So, for ME, finally surrendering to the flow of my life as it unfolds and learning to rest in the present moment as a gift, as the presence of God in the formed and formless expressions of my day, is the only 'effort' that seems to make sense to me, given my particular ego- based structure. This is not to say that I don't attempt to look at and correct the ways my personality operates to deny me that experience of Presence. Both ways of effort/noneffort seem to operate hand in hand, or close on the heels of each other in my life. The main thing that I think affects the outcome of any effort in life is the degree to which we practice out of a sense of love for the practice itself without any other motive. In that place of love and acceptance, the effortless moment of 'present' awareness arises. It feels natural and contented and at rest, even in the midst of the activity. The practice itself, as experienced in the eternal mMoment, becomes the reward, and not a stepping-stone to something bigger or better. Love, Pam Sponsor Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 wow, what wonderful advice! although i'm new to this group, and don't really know anyone, may i say that both Pam and Snehalata have said some great things. a very important thing to learn is the difference between giving up and letting go. giving up often means not allowing oneself to fulfill ones potential; letting go is seperating oneself from people, things, or situations that may prove hazardous to ones happiness. the Buddhist concept of surrender is an example of letting go. unfortunately, many of us become stuck in our own familiarity because we know what to expect, even if the expectations are not what we really want. to move away from what is familiar is frightening because we feel more in control when we know what to expect. what the Taoists refer to as wu wei is best exemplified with the analogy of water: when water flows downstream, it may come across a rock in it's way. the water doesn't stop at the rock, it flows around it and, it time wears the rock away. any obstacle, problem, or feelings of discomfort can be overcome with passiveness and acceptance. hope this all made sense to someone. OM AMRITESVARYAI NAMAH your friend......janu Ammachi, "Dixie Thacker" <dixielou@s...> wrote: > > - > pamkowal > Ammachi > Saturday, November 08, 2003 7:19 PM > Effort vs. non-effort > > YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! > > This is what I have been trying so crudely to say, and it's what my Taoist friend has been telling me: thank you so much for the beautiful clarity. I have nearly worn poor yogaman out with my meanderings and you summed it up just exquisitely- with total surrender, all does become Love, and all acts of devotion are truly that. My one split second experience with this - or a glimpse of something quite similar also led me to believe that physical space is completely irrelevant and not even as we believe it to be. There seemed to be no borders between me and anything else and the "space" within the room I was in felt much, much too large to have been contained within it. Nor could the stillness -so absolutely filled with an aura of utter peace and rightness - have occured as it did because I was in a classroom full of teenagers at the time and there is never anything close to silence with 25 thirteen year olds present. The whatever didn't last long and has only occured one other time but I don't know what borught it on or, conversely, what stopped it. > > I do believe we should live in the best way possible but I still cannot help but believe that awakening can, and does, occur within the twinkling of that proverbial eye if the seeker simply stops seeking long and truly believes - without having to find it first. > > So, thank you, Pam, and dear Yogaman, Pam said just what I've been thinking and have been unable to get clear. You two have been Amma-sends for me lately. > > I don't know if it is having finished my japa and celebrated the convergence to the best of my ability, but tonight feels as expectant as Christmas Eve did when I was little. > > Love, > Snehalata > > > > > Hi, everyone, > I've been following the strand on effort/non-effort with great > interest. In the book "After the Ecstasy, the Laundry" by Jack > Kornfield he talks about the effortless way vs. the way of effort and > says: (pp.98) > "Perhaps to be accurate, we could add a fifth way to the four > paths of spiritual unfolding described by the Buddha. That is the > way that involves no effort, no speed, and no journey. Instead of > passing through the gate of oneness or the gate of sorrow, we pass > through the gateless gate, the realization that the whole idea of > journey and striving is an illusion. Where we're going is here. > To understand this better, we need to acknowledge two > complementary ways in which awakening and illumination are > discovered. One is through the path of striving and effort, the > other through the path of noneffort. In the path of effort you > purify yourself, you struggle to release all the obstacles to being > present, you focus yourself on awakening or illumination so fully > that everything else falls away. Finally you are forced to release > the one last grasping, the desire for enlightenment, and in this > letting go, everything becomes clear. In the path of noneffort, > there is no struggle. You open yourself to the reality of the > present. To rest in the sense of naturalness is all that is asked. > Out of this, all understanding and compassion follow. > In fact, both ways are at times part of everyone's journey. > Both ways lead to letting go. As one of my teachers, Dipama, would > say, "Both ways are best." Wise effort is important. Yet no matter > how arduous the path, and how much effort is expended, in the end the > awakening of the heart comes as an act of grace, like a spring wind > that wafts away all our concerns and fears, that refreshes the heart. > To meditate and pray and listen is like throwing the doors and > windows open. You can't plan for the breeze. As Suzuki Roshi puts > it, "You can't make a date with enlightenment." And a similar saying > goes, "Gaining enlightenment is an accident. Spiritual practice > simply makes us accident-prone." > > My own personal preference for my individual sadhana is the > effortless way. My ego-tendencies have typically been ones of > avoidance and escapism from the reality of day to day living. So, > for ME, finally surrendering to the flow of my life as it unfolds and > learning to rest in the present moment as a gift, as the presence of > God in the formed and formless expressions of my day, is the > only 'effort' that seems to make sense to me, given my particular ego- > based structure. This is not to say that I don't attempt to look at > and correct the ways my personality operates to deny me that > experience of Presence. Both ways of effort/noneffort seem to operate > hand in hand, or close on the heels of each other in my life. The > main thing that I think affects the outcome of any effort in life is > the degree to which we practice out of a sense of love for the > practice itself without any other motive. In that place of love and > acceptance, the effortless moment of 'present' awareness arises. It > feels natural and contented and at rest, even in the midst of the > activity. The practice itself, as experienced in the eternal mMoment, > becomes the reward, and not a stepping-stone to something bigger or > better. Love, Pam > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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