Meditating with and without the mind

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I think "meditation" must mean different things to

different people. Again, in the Manasa Puja described

in the little purple Archana Book, we're told by Amma

to "imagine" and "visualize" things, both which engage

the mind until it becomes natural.

 

Also, in Eternal Wisdom, Part 2, Amma says to a

Bramacharin, "The mantra should be chanted with great

attention. You can also visualize the form of your

Beloved Deity while chanting. Concentration won't

come easily in the beginning..."

 

I guess what I'm saying is similar to what I said

about "efforting", concentration, using my mind, etc.,

are necessary for me at this stage. It's my spiritual

"practice", so that's what I'm doing: practicing until

it becomes "effortless", heart-centered, etc.

 

At this very early stage (not just today, but this

lifetime, I feel), I need tools to focus my mind:

guided meditation, ritualistic worship (puja),

religion, effort and mind. I believe my mind mostly

masters me right now. I need to master my mind before

I can release myself from it. I need to go "through"

these blockades, not around them or down another road.

Otherwise they might pop up again!

 

Someday, if by God's grace I've mastered all of that,

I can let go of my mind and perhaps I'll be closer to

the Goal.

 

Does anyone else feel this way?

 

Gabriela

 

--- KandarW wrote:

> Jai Yogaman:

> Prior to meditation, one has to develop attention,

> then

> concentration ; only when these are two are

> established can one

> really be in a position to meditate

> I truly appreciate your posts and the wisdom you so

> freely share with all of

> us on the List.

>

> However, I do tend to question this one.

>

> For me, "attention" is engaging the mind,

> "concentration" is engaging it

> further. Meditation is relieving the mind of

> engagement to make it easier to be in

> our hearts.

>

> Om Amriteshwariyai Namaha!

>

> Kandar

>

>

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