Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Dear Snehalata, Amma says we should cry out for God from our being, like a child crying for her mother. I haven't even gotten there yet, although sometimes I do cry for Her. I almost envy your level of longing. What I struggle with is not growing impatient at the same time. While another path may seem "faster", it may not be for everyone. It may be faster for your friend because of her karma. Perhaps she is just on a different part of the path from you. On the other hand, with complete surrender on your part - not necessarily at every moment (though that is the goal) but in the sense that you trust Mother's judgement for you - you may be further along the path than your friend in the next life. That brings me to the observation that perhaps we want to get "there" in this life. Of course we all do, but karma demands that we go through some prescribed situations first, and that can take lifetimes/lifeplaces. So, the idea is to be content with the knowldege that we are on the path toward Mother; to have the faith that She is there, waiting for us. Perhaps we have to surrender the idea of getting enlightenment now, in this life. Perhaps it is that very act of surrendering desire for the Goal that will bring us closer to the Goal. There's a deer eating some grass just outside my house; I wonder how close she is to the goal... Snehalata, have faith that you will be There. It doesn't matter when, because there is no time there; there is only awareness. All that matters right now is dharma and spiritual practice. Practice makes Perfect! With love, Gabriela P.S. Am a bit embarrassed now for writing all that... What the heck do I know!?!? --- Dixie Thacker <dixielou wrote: > > - > ckeniley2003 > Ammachi > Tuesday, November 25, 2003 1:05 AM > Re: Enlightenment "easy" > enlightenment..Advaita Gurus > Namaste, > > I have been struggling intensely with this issue, > partly from knowing that other paths are being > followed with real and, at least long term, change > occuring in people's lives. This fits with what > Mother tells us about following the path that is > right for us-until you hit the point that the > particular path I've watched my best friend (Taoist) > travel seemed to almost be a reversal of what we > have come to accept as the "normal" route. While > this friend has always been loving, kind, and > generous, all of these qualities have become > enormously magnified and simply incredible to > observe after an experience that convinced her quite > flatly that what we do as "prep work" (efforting) > doesn't do a thing for us because, in her > experience, "It's a done deal; when you're ripe, you > fall right off of the tree of knowledge and get > picked by your guru!" (grace) > > FOr me, it's not so much a question of > efforting/no efforting, intellectual/intuitive as it > is belief. Christ tells us to believe in/on him and > have faith the size of a mustard seed; Mother tells > us to see Her in everyone we encounter. If we could > truly do these things -understand with every cell of > our body- that there is no separation between > Creator and Creation, would we then become > "spontaneously" enlightened? Wouldn't we then do > much as Christ and Amma have done/do and live a life > that is nothing but pure love and service? > > I am miles and light years and lifetimes from > being able to do this: when a ticked off thirteen > year old in my class mutters unbelievably rude words > under his/her breath, it's certainly not my first > response to accept that the child has just spoken > with Mother's voice!!!! And I ahve a very hard time > accepting that perhaps I can do nothing to change > even the next moment...if I opt to bug out of work > and call in with the blue flu, was that my own > choice or also part of the "done deal?" > > In knots, tangles, and loop-de-loops at Mother's > feet, > Snehalata Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 - Miranda Soliz Ammachi Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:13 AM Re: Easy Enlightenment Dear Gabriela, Thank you so much for your loving (and lovely) message. I AM impatient - it seems to my heart that I should just be able to open the door and go home. And I realize that the kind of total surrender we're talking about takes supreme willpower - what a contradiction - and I haven't even kicked some of my nasty habits, let alone surrendered as I long to do. Do you ever just wish you could walk off into the woods and contemplate these issues forever (or until you didn't need to!)? Love, Dixie Dear Snehalata, Amma says we should cry out for God from our being, like a child crying for her mother. I haven't even gotten there yet, although sometimes I do cry for Her. I almost envy your level of longing. What I struggle with is not growing impatient at the same time. While another path may seem "faster", it may not be for everyone. It may be faster for your friend because of her karma. Perhaps she is just on a different part of the path from you. On the other hand, with complete surrender on your part - not necessarily at every moment (though that is the goal) but in the sense that you trust Mother's judgement for you - you may be further along the path than your friend in the next life. That brings me to the observation that perhaps we want to get "there" in this life. Of course we all do, but karma demands that we go through some prescribed situations first, and that can take lifetimes/lifeplaces. So, the idea is to be content with the knowldege that we are on the path toward Mother; to have the faith that She is there, waiting for us. Perhaps we have to surrender the idea of getting enlightenment now, in this life. Perhaps it is that very act of surrendering desire for the Goal that will bring us closer to the Goal. There's a deer eating some grass just outside my house; I wonder how close she is to the goal... Snehalata, have faith that you will be There. It doesn't matter when, because there is no time there; there is only awareness. All that matters right now is dharma and spiritual practice. Practice makes Perfect! With love, Gabriela P.S. Am a bit embarrassed now for writing all that... What the heck do I know!?!? --- Dixie Thacker <dixielou wrote: > > - > ckeniley2003 > Ammachi > Tuesday, November 25, 2003 1:05 AM > Re: Enlightenment "easy" > enlightenment..Advaita Gurus > Namaste, > > I have been struggling intensely with this issue, > partly from knowing that other paths are being > followed with real and, at least long term, change > occuring in people's lives. This fits with what > Mother tells us about following the path that is > right for us-until you hit the point that the > particular path I've watched my best friend (Taoist) > travel seemed to almost be a reversal of what we > have come to accept as the "normal" route. While > this friend has always been loving, kind, and > generous, all of these qualities have become > enormously magnified and simply incredible to > observe after an experience that convinced her quite > flatly that what we do as "prep work" (efforting) > doesn't do a thing for us because, in her > experience, "It's a done deal; when you're ripe, you > fall right off of the tree of knowledge and get > picked by your guru!" (grace) > > FOr me, it's not so much a question of > efforting/no efforting, intellectual/intuitive as it > is belief. Christ tells us to believe in/on him and > have faith the size of a mustard seed; Mother tells > us to see Her in everyone we encounter. If we could > truly do these things -understand with every cell of > our body- that there is no separation between > Creator and Creation, would we then become > "spontaneously" enlightened? Wouldn't we then do > much as Christ and Amma have done/do and live a life > that is nothing but pure love and service? > > I am miles and light years and lifetimes from > being able to do this: when a ticked off thirteen > year old in my class mutters unbelievably rude words > under his/her breath, it's certainly not my first > response to accept that the child has just spoken > with Mother's voice!!!! And I ahve a very hard time > accepting that perhaps I can do nothing to change > even the next moment...if I opt to bug out of work > and call in with the blue flu, was that my own > choice or also part of the "done deal?" > > In knots, tangles, and loop-de-loops at Mother's > feet, > Snehalata Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion./ Sponsor Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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