Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 I asked one of the questions in Detroit and I feel that the account of it posted here earlier was inaccurate, so here¹s a more accurate one. The question was: My wife volunteers many hours a week for a local animal shelter and as a result of her work and those who work with her 100's of dogs and cats find good homes each year which brings happiness to their owners and saves their lives. Some people with a spiritual orientation seem to feel that animals have a polluting effect in a spiritual environment and I would like Amma¹s opinion about that and also, does she feel that Seva to animals is just as meritorious and worthwhile as Seva to humans? Amma Answered the following: The creator and the creation are one. Serving any form of creation whether plants animals or people is service to God. Then she quoted Lokah Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu and expounded on this. She said in India there are many street dogs and so people might feel differently about it. Also she said the extended families in India with grandparents and someone to talk to etc. made the need for a pet less, perhaps, because people might not be as lonely. Also she said given the large population of India it would be unmanageable if all the billion people had cats and dogs. She said only cats and dogs can give unconditional love. Then she said when you get the animal adopted you should be sure that the people will take very good care of them and she said at the same time that you find the good homes you should make efforts to keep the population of dogs and cats down and do not let them have too many litters (this means it is most humane to have them spayed and neutered so they cannot reproduce and become over populated and homeless due to the over population). Her answer was actually quite a bit more elaborate, but that¹s the gist of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 Om Amriteshwaryai Namah... On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Rick Archer wrote: > I asked one of the questions in Detroit and I feel that the account of it > posted here earlier was inaccurate, so here¹s a more accurate one. Ah, Rick Archer, that is/was you! What a timely question for me! I was sitting there, wondering about the vehicles (vahanas) of Devi, and why sometimes she is on a swan or a tiger or a lion or a peacock or a crocodile. But couldn't formulate the question clearly in my mind. It's such a westernized, intellectual query - what is the difference between Amba on a Tiger and Durga on a Lion? why does Shiva wear a tigerskin? are these things supposed to represent triumph over our animal instincts? and how come we know Nandi's name and Garuda's name, but not Durga Ma's lion's name??? And then you stood up with this very compassionate, service-oriented question that was something of a pinprick in my huge balloon of an intellectualized interrogatory. Salutations to your wife for serving creation like this! I wonder what the Q&A in San Ramon yesterday was like.... Jai Ma, Prashanti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 I don¹t mean to be a doubting Thomas, but I believe that on some occasions questions to Amma and answers from Amma can get seriously mistranslated. I think that happened in this case. I was sitting right in front of the woman who asked the question. Big Swami seemed pretty unclear on what she had asked, but did his best to translate it anyway, without first trying to clarify his understanding. After Amma answered, the woman was very dissatisfied and was crying. Amma handed me a vibuti packet to give her. Later, I connected her with a friend of mine who taught her some things to ³close² her aura so that she wouldn¹t be so susceptible to subtle influences from those around her (which was the problem she asked about.) on 12/2/03 10:46 AM, Kenna at kenna wrote: > Namah Shivaya, > >> > I thought she also mentioned to the woman that there was a possible nerve >> > problem with her jaw injury that was involved. That there was some >> > miscommunication/misunderstanding between her and the doctor and to go and >> > speak to the doctor again. > > Glad you added this information. It seemed significant that Amma told this > woman very specifically to see the dr. again. And a good illustration of > how Her answers are tailored to the person asking. Another thing to note > about Amma's answers is that She will sometimes make a sankalpa or spiritual > resolve in relation to the subject. Thus perhaps if the woman goes to the > dr. the result will be positive due to Amma's influence whereas before it > might not have been. From personal experience I can only say that there can > be a large degree of surrender in asking a question to Amma, and that > surrender can bring Her grace in ways the mind could never imagine. > > Aum Amriteshvaryai Namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 Okay, I don't mean to be a doubting Thomas either, but isn't Amma omniscient and knows the intention of the question without it being translated? Isn't it time she dropped this charade of not knowing English? And if one gets a "wrong" answer (and I didn't care for this answer either) isn't it something other than " a mistranslation?" Love to all my brothers and sisters, Jyotsna --- Rick Archer <rick wrote: > I don¹t mean to be a doubting Thomas, but I believe > that on some occasions > questions to Amma and answers from Amma can get > seriously mistranslated. I > think that happened in this case. I was sitting > right in front of the woman > who asked the question. Big Swami seemed pretty > unclear on what she had > asked, but did his best to translate it anyway, > without first trying to > clarify his understanding. After Amma answered, the > woman was very > dissatisfied and was crying. Amma handed me a vibuti > packet to give her. > Later, I connected her with a friend of mine who > taught her some things to > ³close² her aura so that she wouldn¹t be so > susceptible to subtle influences > from those around her (which was the problem she > asked about.) > > on 12/2/03 10:46 AM, Kenna at kenna wrote: > > > Namah Shivaya, > > > >> > I thought she also mentioned to the woman that > there was a possible nerve > >> > problem with her jaw injury that was involved. > That there was some > >> > miscommunication/misunderstanding between her > and the doctor and to go and > >> > speak to the doctor again. > > > > Glad you added this information. It seemed > significant that Amma told this > > woman very specifically to see the dr. again. And > a good illustration of > > how Her answers are tailored to the person asking. > Another thing to note > > about Amma's answers is that She will sometimes > make a sankalpa or spiritual > > resolve in relation to the subject. Thus perhaps > if the woman goes to the > > dr. the result will be positive due to Amma's > influence whereas before it > > might not have been. From personal experience I > can only say that there can > > be a large degree of surrender in asking a > question to Amma, and that > > surrender can bring Her grace in ways the mind > could never imagine. > > > > Aum Amriteshvaryai Namah > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard http://antispam./whatsnewfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 I was also sitting not far away from this woman, and saw her crying after A= mma had answered her question. I can't speak to what was going on inside of her...b= ut twice I have asked Amma questions and have cried my eyes out as she has answered me= .. I cried because these were things that were hard for me to hear, but ultimate= ly healing. Both of these times, I even initially felt dissatisfied with the answers th= at she gave me...but the longer I was present with her advice, the more peace I felt. I don't know if this woman's experience was similar to mine, but it is a po= ssibility... Iswari Ammachi, Rick Archer <rick@s...> wrote: > I don¹t mean to be a doubting Thomas, but I believe that on some occasion= s > questions to Amma and answers from Amma can get seriously mistranslated. = I > think that happened in this case. I was sitting right in front of the wom= an > who asked the question. Big Swami seemed pretty unclear on what she had > asked, but did his best to translate it anyway, without first trying to > clarify his understanding. After Amma answered, the woman was very > dissatisfied and was crying. Amma handed me a vibuti packet to give her. > Later, I connected her with a friend of mine who taught her some things t= o > ³close² her aura so that she wouldn¹t be so susceptible to subtle influen= ces > from those around her (which was the problem she asked about.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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