Digest Number 1015

December 2, 2003

In a message dated 12/2/03 12:54:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Ammachi writes:

An indian physicist was chatting with Amma

about physics. He got slightly impatient with her over a issue, he

had adopted the role of a teacher teaching a village girl about a

complicated subject. She asked him, "Do you know who I am?" She asked

this question very intently twice. He became a little nervous. She

replied, "I have 330 million ishta devatars in each of the cells of

my body waiting for my command to create or destroy universes."

HOLY CRAP!!! Did She really say this???Would like to know more about this. It

seems unlike Her to put things quite this way. it puts an interesting

perspective on my continual issue with omniscience. You see, She does not know

physics and could never reach the understanding that physicist had (without

years

of study). Despite this, however, She may not have a theoretical, conceptual

knowledge but She is saying She has a much more powerful knowledge of this

physics, shall we say. It is not a conceptual analysis and it is not therefore

clear and coherent. But, She seems to have a claim to a sort of, if not

omniscience, then omnipotence. Of course, that leads to more questions, about

evil...Avram

December 2, 2003

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Ammachi

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:57 PM

Re: Digest Number 1015

In a message dated 12/2/03 12:54:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Ammachi writes:

I am not sure that I can agree that Amma would not have the understanding of

physics that the physicist had without having studied physics intently. In his

autobiography, Paramahansa Yogananda states that he seldom read books after a

certain point because as soon as he picked a book up, he "knew" what it

contained. Although I can't cite other specifics, it seems that I've read of

several highly advanced souls that could discuss any subject with an extreme

degree of understanding whether or not anything in their backgrounds indicated

that this should be the case.

There is a segment in one of the biographies about Amma in which She had been

interviewed by scientists and was found to have fairly extensive knowledge of

science - even to having claimed that there were several more "dimensions" than

were recognized at the time - and string theory may well prove Her to be right.

It seems to me that omniscience would, indeed, allow the

avatar/mahatma/whatever to have vast knowledge - perhaps all knowledge in their

command. The only question I have ever had concerning this type of thing is one

that was posted earlier: does Amma, in fact, need a translator because of the

language barriers? I've wondered about this for a long time and have drawn my

own conclusion - and it is that only - that perhaps the translator is really for

us. Is it possible that Amma understands, through the heart, all that is put

before Her- yet uses a translator to communicate back to us in a manner we will

understand? And is it also possible that She is providing the translator with a

beautiful opportunity to serve and "advance" in his/her own right?

I've never felt any doubt over Amma's omniscience-just questions about how She

uses it in our lives. I bet our (or certainly mine!) lack of grace and true

understanding causes Her to do some real contortions to reach us.

Anyway, thank you for the intersting topic; I truly value each new

opportunity to examine my own understanding and have it expanded or changed as

new approaches touch me (thank you agagin, yogaman!).

At Mother's feet,

Snehalata