Guest guest Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 Bob Dodge was in Indian this past year. He was very fortunate to be in a train traveling with Amma. It was cramped quarters but of course Amma was giving darshan to devotees anyway. People moved in and out of the car Amma was in. Bob Dodge was lucky enough to be siting right next to Amma during this time and was performing the prasad function. A young western devotee who came up for a hug asked Amma an unusual question. He asked Amma if she was aware of the great saint RamaKrishna. Amma answered , " I created RamaKrishna" Bob was really floored. He couldn't believe this answer and asked the person sitting next to him if he heard correctly. The other person, smiling in amazement said yes. Amma rarely speaks about herself, as Bob says, so these qoutes are incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 > > A young western devotee who came up for a hug asked > Amma an unusual > question. He asked Amma if she was aware of the > great saint > RamaKrishna. Amma answered , " I created > RamaKrishna" Wie ist das möglich? Ramakrishna ist im Jahre 1836 geboren. (sorry,...just did an IM chat in German! mein Deutsch ist nicht so schlecht nur ein bisschen rusty!! How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother avatar perhaps? Keval Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard http://antispam./whatsnewfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 on 12/3/03 8:34 AM, Mike Brooker at patria1818 wrote: > >> A young western devotee who came up for a hug asked >> Amma an unusual >> question. He asked Amma if she was aware of the >> great saint >> RamaKrishna. Amma answered , " I created >> RamaKrishna" > > > How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. > 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother > avatar perhaps? Not necessarily as an Avatar, but is the Divine Mother herself. In this same comment, she also said she created Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. > > Keval > > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam./whatsnewfree > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > Your use of is subject to > > > -- Rick Archer 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 Fax: 305-425-2820 http://searchsummit.com rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Namah Shivaya dear Chris, Thanks so much for being so clear and sharing such precious quotes with us. Perhaps the following quote by Amma from Swami Ramakrishnananda's book, Racing Along the Razor's Edge, will help us in this dialogue regarding Amma's words: "Did not Rama and Krishna worship Lord Shiva and Devi, though they themselves were Avatars? Nobody who is born with full consciousness declares from childhood that, "I am Brahman," for this would imply that the other person is not Brahman. When one has realized the Absolute Unity, to whom can one speak and about what? That state is beyond all words and descriptions. If you wish to communicate with someone who is deaf and dumb, you cannot speak to him or her in your own language--to get the message across, you have to communicate in sign language. Though you are using sign language, it doesn't mean that you yourself are deaf and dumb. Likewise, Avatars may undergo severe austerities, or you may see them meditating, but that doesn't mean that they really need to do so. They do it only to set an example to the world." I'll be the first to acknowledge that I am deaf and dumb when it comes to Amma's language and that I give thanks for her grace in speaking sign language to me, especially her brilliant metaphors. Reminding us again to follow Swamiji's directions and listen carefully, withhold our monkey mind's interpretations, meditate on Amma's every word, glance, action, no matter how small, give it time to sink in past our many layers of negativity, etc. There are many ways to read a book. I take some clues from my grandparents and siblings who read the Bible over and over again, studying, thinking, discussing, praying, etc. still blind but hoping to see by her amazing grace. premarupa Aum Amriteshvaryai Namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Hari OM! OM Armiteswariye Namaha! Blessed Keval, Keval Wrote:- > How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. > 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother > avatar perhaps? > > Keval When you are totally identified with the Brahman, then where is the time, where is the space, and what is the distance??? We know only three states of consciousness like Waking, Dream and Deepsleep state.... beyond that our small intellect cannot comprehend. Amma Says there are nine dimensions. Think..... Avtaar's comes to the world, for the general well being of all of us. Avtaar means fallen down state, Avatharitha, so for GOD taking birth in a form in this world is like a play, for the general well being of the Universe. Amma said these words "Amma answered , " I created > > RamaKrishna" lot of subtle meaning on this, because she is totally identified with a Different dimension or Consicousness, when she speaks. Please post these kind of knowledge giving precious Gems from Amma and it will definitely make us think, with our small intellect and we can become the store house of Positive Energy. May Amma Bless All of Us. With Love & OM! Om Amriteswariye Namaha! Om Nama Shivaya! Krishna Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818> wrote: > > > > > A young western devotee who came up for a hug asked > > Amma an unusual > > question. He asked Amma if she was aware of the > > great saint > > RamaKrishna. Amma answered , " I created > > RamaKrishna" > > Wie ist das möglich? Ramakrishna ist im Jahre 1836 > geboren. > (sorry,...just did an IM chat in German! mein Deutsch > ist nicht so schlecht nur ein bisschen rusty!! > > > How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. > 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother > avatar perhaps? > > Keval > > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam./whatsnewfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Hi and Namaste to all my brothers and sisters, I wanted to comment about this particular quote from Amma. I think ( and I reiterate 'think?' as nonone but amma knows for sure and trying to decipher every little thing about her actions is her leela entirely ). My first thought about this quote about Ramakrishna was how wonderful it was because she is literally confirming that she is Devi and it is she who created the wonderful saint that was and is Ramakrishna. If you read about his life and what he has said. He himself kept his spiritual identity a secret from his devotees for many many years ... it wasn't until he was near death that he revealed much of his true identity and nature. But he said that he came into that life to serve the one who created him and he devoted his life to Devi. And he did this in accordance to be able to have Devi reincarnate him again later as another great spiritual teacher. In short..... Even ALL the great teachers, saints, guru's, and avatars through out history had to go through Devi's creation process first before they could come here to do thier missions for mankind. Even they owe thier physical being on this earth to Devi herself .... She who is Mother of the Universe. Pranams to all Melody - Rick Archer Ammachi Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:30 AM Re: Another amazing Amma quote on 12/3/03 8:34 AM, Mike Brooker at patria1818 wrote: > >> A young western devotee who came up for a hug asked >> Amma an unusual >> question. He asked Amma if she was aware of the >> great saint >> RamaKrishna. Amma answered , " I created >> RamaKrishna" > > > How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. > 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother > avatar perhaps? Not necessarily as an Avatar, but is the Divine Mother herself. In this same comment, she also said she created Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. > > Keval > > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam./whatsnewfree > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > Your use of is subject to > > > -- Rick Archer 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 Fax: 305-425-2820 http://searchsummit.com rick Sponsor Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 - Krishna Prasad Ammachi Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:56 AM Re: Another amazing Amma quote Namaste, Krishna and All, Krishna, I agree - I would love to see such wonderful posts continue so that we all may share them. ANd I was fascinated by your comment about Avatars coming for the good of the entire universe and that they may well be incapable of speaking to us in their language becasue we would not have the capacity to understand. Recently, one of us asked why Amma uses translators when she could, it would seem, understand English. That question bothered me because I had wondered the same thing: Mother obviously "sees" us with Her heart and language seems not only insufficient for these situations, but irrelevant as well. Perhaps, as you suggested, the answer lies in our obtuseness - Amma may indeed not need a translator to speak to us, but if we are not "open" we might not understand without the response being given in our own tongue. I, for one, was completely blown away by my first encounter with Mother; had she shown me much more of Herself, my mind might well have cracked - and not in the way that leads to enlightenment! (-: I don't think I had shared this on the list - and I have certainly not shared it anywhere else, but during my first meeting with Mother, last July, I was waiting for the evening program to begin and was simply passing the time by looking around the room and marvelling at what a diverse group we were. So many individuals with such varied backgrounds, needs, etc - or so I thought. I looked away for a few moments, towards the stage and continued to consider our collective uniqueness, then looked back towards the waiting sea of devotees. What I saw hit President Bush's description of shock and awe: I no longer saw unique individuals with personal and collective agendas - what had only seconds before been people combing their hair, talking, turning pages of books they'd purchased, etc., had somehow transformed itself into a mass of squirming, humanesque shells. The movements, so normal a second ago, appeared as random and senseless to my eyes as it would have had I been watching hundreds of grasshoppers waving their antannae and rubbing their legs together. I have to admit, I was horrified and literally sickened - I looked away and back several times, praying for my vision to return to normal, but it did no good; For at least five mintues, all I could see was this mass of blank-eyes, writhing shells before me. I was preparing to leave because I actually thought I was going to be physically sick when Amma entered the room, which did not seem like a particularly appropriate time to walk out. And, as it turned out, my stomach settled down almost immediately, but we were several hours into the evening before the horror left my mind - and when it did, it was replaced with an absolutely peace-filled assurance that what I had seen was what we are - just life. Nothing more and nothing less - and certainly, as Amma says, without the individual significance we place upon our unique personhoods. I didn't need to see Mother's fourth dimension that night to know that I was in the Presence of That. And, on a light, silly note to relieve the tension of this for me, I didn't need the crashing thunderstom that night, either. I drove back to my hotel on a dark road, surrounded by wind-rattled corn fields, and humongous crashes of thunder and sky-splitting lightning. When Ron (hubby) called later that night to see how my evening had been, literally all I could was giggle: I wasn't sure I could REALLY say "Oh, it was somewhere between the most sacred experience I will ever have and a horror story that even Stephen King couldn't have written!" Please don't think I've lost my mind; I truly have not and am still convinced that that evening was one of the most lucid I've ever experienced. I have not doubt that Mother could create and destroy at will -but I think I need to see the hugging Ma for a few more lifetimes before She shows me the other sides! For now, I'll jsut take it on absolute faith. Hoping to still be perceived as sane, Snehalata Hari OM! OM Armiteswariye Namaha! Blessed Keval, Keval Wrote:- > How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. > 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother > avatar perhaps? > > Keval When you are totally identified with the Brahman, then where is the time, where is the space, and what is the distance??? We know only three states of consciousness like Waking, Dream and Deepsleep state.... beyond that our small intellect cannot comprehend. Amma Says there are nine dimensions. Think..... Avtaar's comes to the world, for the general well being of all of us. Avtaar means fallen down state, Avatharitha, so for GOD taking birth in a form in this world is like a play, for the general well being of the Universe. Amma said these words "Amma answered , " I created > > RamaKrishna" lot of subtle meaning on this, because she is totally identified with a Different dimension or Consicousness, when she speaks. Please post these kind of knowledge giving precious Gems from Amma and it will definitely make us think, with our small intellect and we can become the store house of Positive Energy. May Amma Bless All of Us. With Love & OM! Om Amriteswariye Namaha! Om Nama Shivaya! Krishna Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818> wrote: > > > > > A young western devotee who came up for a hug asked > > Amma an unusual > > question. He asked Amma if she was aware of the > > great saint > > RamaKrishna. Amma answered , " I created > > RamaKrishna" > > Wie ist das möglich? Ramakrishna ist im Jahre 1836 > geboren. > (sorry,...just did an IM chat in German! mein Deutsch > ist nicht so schlecht nur ein bisschen rusty!! > > > How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. > 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother > avatar perhaps? > > Keval > > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam./whatsnewfree Sponsor Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Dear Keval, Your question reminds me of the passage from Gita : Sri Krishna says " I taught his teaching to the sun god Vivasvan , and he to manu etc... over the years it got lost", to which Arjuna asks the same question you ask " How is it possible that You taught this to Vivasvan when you were born much later?"- to which Krishna replies in His famous Immortal passages: " You and I have been through many lives, Arjuna ., I remember them all, you do not. Whenever Dharma declines and Adharma increases, i manifest myself. For the protection of the Good, andfor the destruction of the wicked, I incarnate Myself from age to age" .. ( Yadha yadha hi dharmasya glaanir bhavathi bhataha... and Parithranaya Sadhunam .....). bala Mike Brooker <patria1818 wrote: > > A young western devotee who came up for a hug asked > Amma an unusual > question. He asked Amma if she was aware of the > great saint > RamaKrishna. Amma answered , " I created > RamaKrishna" Wie ist das möglich? Ramakrishna ist im Jahre 1836 geboren. (sorry,...just did an IM chat in German! mein Deutsch ist nicht so schlecht nur ein bisschen rusty!! How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother avatar perhaps? Keval Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard http://antispam./whatsnewfree Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi Your use of is subject to Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Namah shivaya Frankly, I am a bit wary of such quotes because it is so uncharacteristic of Amma to say anything of Herself. Also these statements get misquoted. For example in this particular quote " I created Ramakrishna"-- in the version i heard it was "I created Yogananda"- Maharishi Mahesh yogi was not mentioned. But i have heard different versions of this .. some say She said Ramakrishna, some Yogananda etc... this may be a small matter , but at the same time one has to be careful as to what Amma actually said. She usually says " I am a crazy woman ".. or "what do I know.. everything is in God's hands".. very rarely is She explicit about Her inner nature- .. as recently as last friday , I was sitting behind Her chair , when the talk came to the present kali yuga etc. at this point I told Amma " Amma, only you can change this kali yuga into a satya yuga".. Amma ignored the comment- when i repeated it , She replied " Me?- I am a crazy woman"... bala Rick Archer <rick wrote: on 12/3/03 8:34 AM, Mike Brooker at patria1818 wrote: > >> A young western devotee who came up for a hug asked >> Amma an unusual >> question. He asked Amma if she was aware of the >> great saint >> RamaKrishna. Amma answered , " I created >> RamaKrishna" > > > How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. > 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother > avatar perhaps? Not necessarily as an Avatar, but is the Divine Mother herself. In this same comment, she also said she created Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. > > Keval > > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam./whatsnewfree > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > Your use of is subject to > > > -- Rick Archer 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 Fax: 305-425-2820 http://searchsummit.com rick Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Namah shivaya, Bala. I am glad to hear you say this. While, when it comes to Amma, anything is certainly possible...I agree that these quotations do seem out of character for Her. Iswari Ammachi, balakrishnan Shankar <balakrishnan_sh> wrote: > Namah shivaya > > Frankly, I am a bit wary of such quotes because it is so uncharacteristic of Amma to say anything of Herself. Also these statements get misquoted. For example in this particular quote " I created Ramakrishna"-- in the version i heard it was "I created Yogananda"- Maharishi Mahesh yogi was not mentioned. But i have heard different versions of this .. some say She said Ramakrishna, some Yogananda etc... this may be a small matter , but at the same time one has to be careful as to what Amma actually said. > > She usually says " I am a crazy woman ".. or "what do I know.. everything is in God's hands".. very rarely is She explicit about Her inner nature- > > . as recently as last friday , I was sitting behind Her chair , when the talk came to the present kali yuga etc. > at this point I told Amma " Amma, only you can change this kali yuga into a satya yuga".. > > Amma ignored the comment- when i repeated it , She replied " Me?- I am a crazy woman"... > > bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Namah Shivaya Snehalata, First, I want to say that I hope the current period of trials that you are undergoing passes quickly, and that what follows for you is peace and joy. Your perceptions of the mass of humanity awaiting Amma last July is similiar to an experience that I had towards the conclusion of Devi Bhava a year or so ago, although my experience was not disturbing, but awe inspiring. I was standing on the balcony at San Ramon looking at Amma at the far end of the temple. I saw the throng of beings hovering around Her, and as I watched that throng started to take on the appearance of a single organism with Amma as the pumping, vibrant heart. It was a moment where seperation diminished and where conections became more appearant. Of course it was only a moment, and then I was back to my sense of seperation and isolation. Amma, I pray that you will help us to "see" clearly, and know who we are! Jai Ma! Omana Ammachi, "Dixie Thacker" <dixielou@s...> wrote: > > - > Krishna Prasad > Ammachi > Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:56 AM > Re: Another amazing Amma quote > > Namaste, Krishna and All, > > Krishna, I agree - I would love to see such wonderful posts continue so that we all may share them. ANd I was fascinated by your comment about Avatars coming for the good of the entire universe and that they may well be incapable of speaking to us in their language becasue we would not have the capacity to understand. Recently, one of us asked why Amma uses translators when she could, it would seem, understand English. > > That question bothered me because I had wondered the same thing: Mother obviously "sees" us with Her heart and language seems not only insufficient for these situations, but irrelevant as well. Perhaps, as you suggested, the answer lies in our obtuseness - Amma may indeed not need a translator to speak to us, but if we are not "open" we might not understand without the response being given in our own tongue. I, for one, was completely blown away by my first encounter with Mother; had she shown me much more of Herself, my mind might well have cracked - and not in the way that leads to enlightenment! (- : > > I don't think I had shared this on the list - and I have certainly not shared it anywhere else, but during my first meeting with Mother, last July, I was waiting for the evening program to begin and was simply passing the time by looking around the room and marvelling at what a diverse group we were. So many individuals with such varied backgrounds, needs, etc - or so I thought. I looked away for a few moments, towards the stage and continued to consider our collective uniqueness, then looked back towards the waiting sea of devotees. > > What I saw hit President Bush's description of shock and awe: I no longer saw unique individuals with personal and collective agendas - what had only seconds before been people combing their hair, talking, turning pages of books they'd purchased, etc., had somehow transformed itself into a mass of squirming, humanesque shells. The movements, so normal a second ago, appeared as random and senseless to my eyes as it would have had I been watching hundreds of grasshoppers waving their antannae > and rubbing their legs together. I have to admit, I was horrified and literally sickened - I looked away and back several times, praying for my vision to return to normal, but it did no good; For at least five mintues, all I could see was this mass of blank-eyes, writhing shells before me. > I was preparing to leave because I actually thought I was going to be physically sick when Amma entered the room, which did not seem like a particularly appropriate time to walk out. And, as it turned out, my stomach settled down almost immediately, but we were several hours into the evening before the horror left my mind - and when it did, it was replaced with an absolutely peace-filled assurance that what I had seen was what we are - just life. Nothing more and nothing less - and certainly, as Amma says, without the individual significance we place upon our unique personhoods. > > I didn't need to see Mother's fourth dimension that night to know that I was in the Presence of That. And, on a light, silly note to relieve the tension of this for me, I didn't need the crashing thunderstom that night, either. I drove back to my hotel on a dark road, surrounded by wind-rattled corn fields, and humongous crashes of thunder and sky-splitting lightning. When Ron (hubby) called later that night to see how my evening had been, literally all I could was giggle: I wasn't sure I could REALLY say "Oh, it was somewhere between the most sacred experience I will ever have and a horror story that even Stephen King couldn't have written!" > > Please don't think I've lost my mind; I truly have not and am still convinced that that evening was one of the most lucid I've ever experienced. I have not doubt that Mother could create and destroy at will -but I think I need to see the hugging Ma for a few more lifetimes before She shows me the other sides! For now, I'll jsut take it on absolute faith. > > Hoping to still be perceived as sane, > Snehalata > > > Hari OM! OM Armiteswariye Namaha! > > Blessed Keval, > > Keval Wrote:- > > How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. > > 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother > > avatar perhaps? > > > > Keval > > When you are totally identified with the Brahman, then where is the > time, where is the space, and what is the distance??? > > We know only three states of consciousness like Waking, Dream and > Deepsleep state.... beyond that our small intellect cannot > comprehend. Amma Says there are nine dimensions. Think..... > > Avtaar's comes to the world, for the general well being of all of us. > Avtaar means fallen down state, Avatharitha, so for GOD taking birth > in a form in this world is like a play, for the general well being of > the Universe. > > Amma said these words "Amma answered , " I created > > > RamaKrishna" > > lot of subtle meaning on this, because she is totally identified with > a Different dimension or Consicousness, when she speaks. > > Please post these kind of knowledge giving precious Gems from Amma > and it will definitely make us think, with our small intellect and we > can become the store house of Positive Energy. > > May Amma Bless All of Us. > > With Love & OM! > > Om Amriteswariye Namaha! > Om Nama Shivaya! > > Krishna Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818> wrote: > > > > > > > > A young western devotee who came up for a hug asked > > > Amma an unusual > > > question. He asked Amma if she was aware of the > > > great saint > > > RamaKrishna. Amma answered , " I created > > > RamaKrishna" > > > > Wie ist das möglich? Ramakrishna ist im Jahre 1836 > > geboren. > > (sorry,...just did an IM chat in German! mein Deutsch > > ist nicht so schlecht nur ein bisschen rusty!! > > > > > > How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. > > 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother > > avatar perhaps? > > > > Keval > > > > > > > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard > > http://antispam./whatsnewfree > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > Terms of Service. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 - Omana Ammachi Wednesday, December 03, 2003 5:10 PM Re: Another amazing Amma quote Namaha Shivaya, Yes! That's it, too! In a way, the vision of so much humanity appearing to be nothing more than a living, heart-beating mass was awe inspiring - but it was so unexpected and surreal that I really did have a completely adverse physical reaction. I had not expected to have my perceptions altered and something about having our human "specialness" and individuality reduced so swiftly and completely to just life shocked the daylights out of me. There was also something wrong with the eyes and expressions of the devotees-it was as though I were watching a scifi flick where the characters were wearing some kind of body casts/costumes that had nothing to do with what the "aliens" inside really were. My whole first experience left me completely enchanted, horrified and, I think, molecularly reorganized. I could not walk after my first hug - trying to stand was quite a reminder of what it felt like to walk after partying in the sixties (if they'd have shown Fantasia, I'd probably have fliiped out completely!). The nap I took in the early afternoon after that was the deepest, most rejuvinating sleep I have ever had and the severe arthritis in my legs has not returned since that first hug (it's crept back into my hands to a much lesser degree than before). And, jsut to top this wild ride, I had my first experience with seeing auras. Again, I had been observing other devotees, and glanced to the staging area- Swami and Amma were both surrounded by lovely gold light. I reminded myself that, despite having tried years ago, I had never been able to see an aura, so this vision must have been due to sheer excitement and my mind running wild with excitement. Wrong again - I repeated the "look, look away, breath deep and clear head, look again" process - no change: the auras remained. That did hold me in awe when I realized it was real. Anyway, thank you for letting me know someone else has observed something similar. And even more thanks for giving me an opportunity to share something I had not been sure I should share even with my brothers and sisters here. Namaste, Snehalata Namah Shivaya Snehalata, First, I want to say that I hope the current period of trials that you are undergoing passes quickly, and that what follows for you is peace and joy. Your perceptions of the mass of humanity awaiting Amma last July is similiar to an experience that I had towards the conclusion of Devi Bhava a year or so ago, although my experience was not disturbing, but awe inspiring. I was standing on the balcony at San Ramon looking at Amma at the far end of the temple. I saw the throng of beings hovering around Her, and as I watched that throng started to take on the appearance of a single organism with Amma as the pumping, vibrant heart. It was a moment where seperation diminished and where conections became more appearant. Of course it was only a moment, and then I was back to my sense of seperation and isolation. Amma, I pray that you will help us to "see" clearly, and know who we are! Jai Ma! Omana Ammachi, "Dixie Thacker" <dixielou@s...> wrote: > > - > Krishna Prasad > Ammachi > Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:56 AM > Re: Another amazing Amma quote > > Namaste, Krishna and All, > > Krishna, I agree - I would love to see such wonderful posts continue so that we all may share them. ANd I was fascinated by your comment about Avatars coming for the good of the entire universe and that they may well be incapable of speaking to us in their language becasue we would not have the capacity to understand. Recently, one of us asked why Amma uses translators when she could, it would seem, understand English. > > That question bothered me because I had wondered the same thing: Mother obviously "sees" us with Her heart and language seems not only insufficient for these situations, but irrelevant as well. Perhaps, as you suggested, the answer lies in our obtuseness - Amma may indeed not need a translator to speak to us, but if we are not "open" we might not understand without the response being given in our own tongue. I, for one, was completely blown away by my first encounter with Mother; had she shown me much more of Herself, my mind might well have cracked - and not in the way that leads to enlightenment! (- : > > I don't think I had shared this on the list - and I have certainly not shared it anywhere else, but during my first meeting with Mother, last July, I was waiting for the evening program to begin and was simply passing the time by looking around the room and marvelling at what a diverse group we were. So many individuals with such varied backgrounds, needs, etc - or so I thought. I looked away for a few moments, towards the stage and continued to consider our collective uniqueness, then looked back towards the waiting sea of devotees. > > What I saw hit President Bush's description of shock and awe: I no longer saw unique individuals with personal and collective agendas - what had only seconds before been people combing their hair, talking, turning pages of books they'd purchased, etc., had somehow transformed itself into a mass of squirming, humanesque shells. The movements, so normal a second ago, appeared as random and senseless to my eyes as it would have had I been watching hundreds of grasshoppers waving their antannae > and rubbing their legs together. I have to admit, I was horrified and literally sickened - I looked away and back several times, praying for my vision to return to normal, but it did no good; For at least five mintues, all I could see was this mass of blank-eyes, writhing shells before me. > I was preparing to leave because I actually thought I was going to be physically sick when Amma entered the room, which did not seem like a particularly appropriate time to walk out. And, as it turned out, my stomach settled down almost immediately, but we were several hours into the evening before the horror left my mind - and when it did, it was replaced with an absolutely peace-filled assurance that what I had seen was what we are - just life. Nothing more and nothing less - and certainly, as Amma says, without the individual significance we place upon our unique personhoods. > > I didn't need to see Mother's fourth dimension that night to know that I was in the Presence of That. And, on a light, silly note to relieve the tension of this for me, I didn't need the crashing thunderstom that night, either. I drove back to my hotel on a dark road, surrounded by wind-rattled corn fields, and humongous crashes of thunder and sky-splitting lightning. When Ron (hubby) called later that night to see how my evening had been, literally all I could was giggle: I wasn't sure I could REALLY say "Oh, it was somewhere between the most sacred experience I will ever have and a horror story that even Stephen King couldn't have written!" > > Please don't think I've lost my mind; I truly have not and am still convinced that that evening was one of the most lucid I've ever experienced. I have not doubt that Mother could create and destroy at will -but I think I need to see the hugging Ma for a few more lifetimes before She shows me the other sides! For now, I'll jsut take it on absolute faith. > > Hoping to still be perceived as sane, > Snehalata > > > Hari OM! OM Armiteswariye Namaha! > > Blessed Keval, > > Keval Wrote:- > > How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. > > 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother > > avatar perhaps? > > > > Keval > > When you are totally identified with the Brahman, then where is the > time, where is the space, and what is the distance??? > > We know only three states of consciousness like Waking, Dream and > Deepsleep state.... beyond that our small intellect cannot > comprehend. Amma Says there are nine dimensions. Think..... > > Avtaar's comes to the world, for the general well being of all of us. > Avtaar means fallen down state, Avatharitha, so for GOD taking birth > in a form in this world is like a play, for the general well being of > the Universe. > > Amma said these words "Amma answered , " I created > > > RamaKrishna" > > lot of subtle meaning on this, because she is totally identified with > a Different dimension or Consicousness, when she speaks. > > Please post these kind of knowledge giving precious Gems from Amma > and it will definitely make us think, with our small intellect and we > can become the store house of Positive Energy. > > May Amma Bless All of Us. > > With Love & OM! > > Om Amriteswariye Namaha! > Om Nama Shivaya! > > Krishna > > > > > > > Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818> wrote: > > > > > > > > A young western devotee who came up for a hug asked > > > Amma an unusual > > > question. He asked Amma if she was aware of the > > > great saint > > > RamaKrishna. Amma answered , " I created > > > RamaKrishna" > > > > Wie ist das möglich? Ramakrishna ist im Jahre 1836 > > geboren. > > (sorry,...just did an IM chat in German! mein Deutsch > > ist nicht so schlecht nur ein bisschen rusty!! > > > > > > How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. > > 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother > > avatar perhaps? > > > > Keval > > > > > > > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard > > http://antispam./whatsnewfree > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > Terms of Service. > > > Sponsor Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 These are normal paranormal experiences when you come into the presence of Maya Herself. Last year we had shared here on the list our "pressure cooker" experiences at the feet of Mother. Jaya Devi Ammachi, "Dixie Thacker" <dixielou@s...> wrote: > Please don't think I've lost my mind; I truly have not and am still convinced that that evening was one of the most lucid I've ever experienced. I have not doubt that Mother could create and destroy at will -but I think I need to see the hugging Ma for a few more lifetimes before She shows me the other sides! For now, I'll jsut take it on absolute faith. > > Hoping to still be perceived as sane, > Snehalata > > > Hari OM! OM Armiteswariye Namaha! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Hari OM! OM Amriteswariey Namaha! Blessed Ones, This kind of visions is almost near to the Bhagwad Geetha description of "Viswaroopa Dharsanam" by Arjuna, as Bala rightly mentioned in his mail it is comparable to the Bhagwad Geetha also. Lord Sri Krishna given a special eye, by his yogic power to Arjuna, to see the "Virat Roopa" in Lord Krishna's Body, Arjuna got freightened, because the space and time has sucked out and there were billions and millions of eyes, hands, ears... and Arjuna got stunned could not talk even. And he prayed Lord Krishna, to come back to the previous form as his Friend, Philosopher, Guide. Arjuna said, Prostrations to you great Being, I prostrate from all sides, I am seeing all the divine & terrific things on you. I am getting frieghtened also. Because of Arjuna's prayer, Krishna taken the previous form. So, When we say all are one, it is One only. even language tells me. When we say "I" we say it as I only. ---- there is no seperate I other than I for each I. it is a common factor. When you ask me "Who are YOU" I say I am so and so.... When I ask you you also say I am... so and so. so I is the common factor everywhere. It is difficult to explain, it is like the taste of sugar... we need to taste that... till that never understand.. we can only "Stand UnderHER" we cannot understand "HER" Do not even try with our impurities in the mind. Most part of our life we get identified with the so and so... part. May Amma Bless all of us. Om Amriteswariye Namaha! Om Nama Shivaya! With Love & OM! Krishna Ammachi, "Omana" <eveningstar8@h...> wrote: > Namah Shivaya Snehalata, > First, I want to say that I hope the current period of trials that > you are undergoing passes quickly, and that what follows for you is > peace and joy. > > Your perceptions of the mass of humanity awaiting Amma last July is > similiar to an experience that I had towards the conclusion of Devi > Bhava a year or so ago, although my experience was not disturbing, > but awe inspiring. I was standing on the balcony at San Ramon looking > at Amma at the far end of the temple. I saw the throng of beings > hovering around Her, and as I watched that throng started to take on > the appearance of a single organism with Amma as the pumping, vibrant > heart. It was a moment where seperation diminished and where > conections became more appearant. Of course it was only a moment, and > then I was back to my sense of seperation and isolation. > > Amma, I pray that you will help us to "see" clearly, and know who we > are! > Jai Ma! > Omana > Ammachi, "Dixie Thacker" <dixielou@s...> wrote: > > > > - > > Krishna Prasad > > Ammachi > > Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:56 AM > > Re: Another amazing Amma quote > > > > Namaste, Krishna and All, > > > > Krishna, I agree - I would love to see such wonderful posts > continue so that we all may share them. ANd I was fascinated by your > comment about Avatars coming for the good of the entire universe and > that they may well be incapable of speaking to us in their language > becasue we would not have the capacity to understand. Recently, one > of us asked why Amma uses translators when she could, it would seem, > understand English. > > > > That question bothered me because I had wondered the same thing: > Mother obviously "sees" us with Her heart and language seems not only > insufficient for these situations, but irrelevant as well. Perhaps, > as you suggested, the answer lies in our obtuseness - Amma may indeed > not need a translator to speak to us, but if we are not "open" we > might not understand without the response being given in our own > tongue. I, for one, was completely blown away by my first encounter > with Mother; had she shown me much more of Herself, my mind might > well have cracked - and not in the way that leads to enlightenment! (- > : > > > > I don't think I had shared this on the list - and I have > certainly not shared it anywhere else, but during my first meeting > with Mother, last July, I was waiting for the evening program to > begin and was simply passing the time by looking around the room and > marvelling at what a diverse group we were. So many individuals with > such varied backgrounds, needs, etc - or so I thought. I looked away > for a few moments, towards the stage and continued to consider our > collective uniqueness, then looked back towards the waiting sea of > devotees. > > > > What I saw hit President Bush's description of shock and awe: I > no longer saw unique individuals with personal and collective > agendas - what had only seconds before been people combing their > hair, talking, turning pages of books they'd purchased, etc., had > somehow transformed itself into a mass of squirming, humanesque > shells. The movements, so normal a second ago, appeared as random > and senseless to my eyes as it would have had I been watching > hundreds of grasshoppers waving their antannae > > and rubbing their legs together. I have to admit, I was > horrified and literally sickened - I looked away and back several > times, praying for my vision to return to normal, but it did no > good; For at least five mintues, all I could see was this mass of > blank-eyes, writhing shells before me. > > I was preparing to leave because I actually thought I was going > to be physically sick when Amma entered the room, which did not seem > like a particularly appropriate time to walk out. And, as it turned > out, my stomach settled down almost immediately, but we were several > hours into the evening before the horror left my mind - and when it > did, it was replaced with an absolutely peace-filled assurance that > what I had seen was what we are - just life. Nothing more and > nothing less - and certainly, as Amma says, without the individual > significance we place upon our unique personhoods. > > > > I didn't need to see Mother's fourth dimension that night to know > that I was in the Presence of That. And, on a light, silly note to > relieve the tension of this for me, I didn't need the crashing > thunderstom that night, either. I drove back to my hotel on a dark > road, surrounded by wind-rattled corn fields, and humongous crashes > of thunder and sky-splitting lightning. When Ron (hubby) called > later that night to see how my evening had been, literally all I > could was giggle: I wasn't sure I could REALLY say "Oh, it was > somewhere between the most sacred experience I will ever have and a > horror story that even Stephen King couldn't have written!" > > > > Please don't think I've lost my mind; I truly have not and am > still convinced that that evening was one of the most lucid I've ever > experienced. I have not doubt that Mother could create and destroy > at will -but I think I need to see the hugging Ma for a few more > lifetimes before She shows me the other sides! For now, I'll jsut > take it on absolute faith. > > > > Hoping to still be perceived as sane, > > Snehalata > > > > > > Hari OM! OM Armiteswariye Namaha! > > > > Blessed Keval, > > > > Keval Wrote:- > > > How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. > > > 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother > > > avatar perhaps? > > > > > > Keval > > > > When you are totally identified with the Brahman, then where is > the > > time, where is the space, and what is the distance??? > > > > We know only three states of consciousness like Waking, Dream and > > Deepsleep state.... beyond that our small intellect cannot > > comprehend. Amma Says there are nine dimensions. Think..... > > > > Avtaar's comes to the world, for the general well being of all of > us. > > Avtaar means fallen down state, Avatharitha, so for GOD taking > birth > > in a form in this world is like a play, for the general well > being of > > the Universe. > > > > Amma said these words "Amma answered , " I created > > > > RamaKrishna" > > > > lot of subtle meaning on this, because she is totally identified > with > > a Different dimension or Consicousness, when she speaks. > > > > Please post these kind of knowledge giving precious Gems from > Amma > > and it will definitely make us think, with our small intellect > and we > > can become the store house of Positive Energy. > > > > May Amma Bless All of Us. > > > > With Love & OM! > > > > Om Amriteswariye Namaha! > > Om Nama Shivaya! > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > A young western devotee who came up for a hug asked > > > > Amma an unusual > > > > question. He asked Amma if she was aware of the > > > > great saint > > > > RamaKrishna. Amma answered , " I created > > > > RamaKrishna" > > > > > > Wie ist das möglich? Ramakrishna ist im Jahre 1836 > > > geboren. > > > (sorry,...just did an IM chat in German! mein Deutsch > > > ist nicht so schlecht nur ein bisschen rusty!! > > > > > > > > > How is this possible? Ramarkishna was born in 1836. > > > 117 years before Amma. In a previous Divine Mother > > > avatar perhaps? > > > > > > Keval > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard > > > http://antispam./whatsnewfree > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > Ammachi > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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