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Namaste Everyone,

 

I promised to write back, so I thought I would let everyone know how I am

doing. To be quite honest I don't know how I am doing. Yesterday I was a mess.

Today I FEEL ok so maybe I am getting back to normal. I still feel the cloud

hovering though. So hopefully a few more days and all will be well.

 

I did want to see if anyone could answer anymore of this email for me? Its

funny because after I wrote it I found a book about Kali at the book store that

came with a Kali statue. Now for some reason, every time I look at Amma I think

of Kali. Its impossible for me to think about one without the other. I have

started to read the Upanishads for the first time. I think it is a condensed

version of course, does anyone know how many there are? So I can make sure I

read them all. I have been trying to read some inspiring words to lighten my

spirits for awhile now. I feel like I am just drifting and Im trying to get back

on track but its a struggle. I know what I SHOULD do but getting myself to do

anything is, quite frankly a pain in the rump. :-) Hopefully I will get myself

back to where I would like to be soon. All my love to you.

 

At Amma's Feet,

Robin

 

George4Mata <leokomor wrote:

Namaste Robin:

 

Durga has an entire purana dedicated to her. I have seen it titled three ways

namely Devibhagavatam or Sri Mad Devi Bhagavatam and/or Srimad Devi Bhagavatam.

 

As for Mother Kali I cannot offer info.

 

Namah Shivaya and Jai Ma,

 

George4Mata

 

 

 

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Namaste Everyone,

 

I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I am trying to find the actual

scriptures that Kali and Durga and any other Goddess might appear in. I only

know of Durga in the Devi Mahatmya or Chandi. I am interested in reading these

if anyone could let me know the scriptures and which Goddess is in which

scripture. Sorry it couldn't be longer, I haven't been myself lately. Thanks for

your help.

 

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>Upanishads for the first time. I think it is a condensed version of

>course, does anyone know how many there are? So I can make sure I

>read them all. I have been trying to read some inspiring words to

 

There are several hundred Upanishads(including some which are known

to be fabrications eg Allo-panishad which deals with Allah LOL)- many

of them are lost. There are 108 of them recognised today as being the

main ones of which 12 are considered to the principal upanishads

(eminent authors such as Sankaracharya have commented on them). There

is a good book by Radhakrishnan on the principal upanishads. Quite

frankly except for the Yoga-upanishads(there are 4 of them), the rest

put me to sleep:-)

 

The main scripture for Devi is the Devi Bhagavatam as George4 pointed

out. This has all the devis including some not so well known Devis

such as Ahalya, Renuka etc. There is also a great section in the

Brahmanda purana from which comes the LS. There is also the great

scripture Devi Gita, which has been superbly translated by Satyananda

Saraswati(available at amazon.com). There are bits and pieces of

stories, prayers and mantras on Devi strewn across all the puranas.

Hope that helps.

 

Aum Namasivaya

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Namaste Childofdevi,

 

Thank you so much for all the information! I will start some research right

away. I did find the book that George4 was refering too on line at half.com. I

am thinking on it I hope it is as inspiring as it sounds. Everywhere else I go

it is out of print so I have to decide quickly. I think there is a volume 1 and

2 but two seems to be around more these days so I can get that one later. If you

come up with any other good books of Goddesses please email me and let me know.

:-) Thanks for everything.

 

At Amma's Feet,

Robin

 

 

childofdevi <childofdevi wrote:

>Upanishads for the first time. I think it is a condensed version of

>course, does anyone know how many there are? So I can make sure I

>read them all. I have been trying to read some inspiring words to

 

There are several hundred Upanishads(including some which are known

to be fabrications eg Allo-panishad which deals with Allah LOL)- many

of them are lost. There are 108 of them recognised today as being the

main ones of which 12 are considered to the principal upanishads

(eminent authors such as Sankaracharya have commented on them). There

is a good book by Radhakrishnan on the principal upanishads. Quite

frankly except for the Yoga-upanishads(there are 4 of them), the rest

put me to sleep:-)

 

The main scripture for Devi is the Devi Bhagavatam as George4 pointed

out. This has all the devis including some not so well known Devis

such as Ahalya, Renuka etc. There is also a great section in the

Brahmanda purana from which comes the LS. There is also the great

scripture Devi Gita, which has been superbly translated by Satyananda

Saraswati(available at amazon.com). There are bits and pieces of

stories, prayers and mantras on Devi strewn across all the puranas.

Hope that helps.

 

Aum Namasivaya

-yogaman

 

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

Ammachi/

 

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Dear Robin and Fellow Siblings:

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

 

What is attempted NOW is an expression of my individual Sadhana. Different

readers have different needs and tastes in scripture.. For G4M it is one

dimensional.

 

G4M reads Awaken Children parts 1-9. Am currently half way through volume 6 and

pray that Mother will allow me to come in blessed contact with a few more,

 

The opinion here is that each and everything about Durgaji, Parvataji,

Saraswatiji et.al. is in Ammachi.

 

Yogaman made excellent suggestions. Tales of Durga can be illuminating. If

mythology is ones bent then tales of Durga' and Her Manifestatios battles have a

place. But a living breathing Devi has manifested Her gita. Awaken Children!

is such a scripture..

 

Can we be alive during the actual expansion of the Bhagavad Gita?

 

With Prostrations to the Devi,

 

G4M

 

 

 

Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel wrote:

Namaste Childofdevi,

 

Thank you so much for all the information! I will start some research right

away. I did find the book that George4 was refering too on line at half.com. I

am thinking on it I hope it is as inspiring as it sounds. Everywhere else I go

it is out of print so I have to decide quickly. I think there is a volume 1 and

2 but two seems to be around more these days so I can get that one later. If you

come up with any other good books of Goddesses please email me and let me know.

:-) Thanks for everything.

 

At Amma's Feet,

Robin

 

 

childofdevi <childofdevi wrote:

>Upanishads for the first time. I think it is a condensed version of

>course, does anyone know how many there are? So I can make sure I

>read them all. I have been trying to read some inspiring words to

 

There are several hundred Upanishads(including some which are known

to be fabrications eg Allo-panishad which deals with Allah LOL)- many

of them are lost. There are 108 of them recognised today as being the

main ones of which 12 are considered to the principal upanishads

(eminent authors such as Sankaracharya have commented on them). There

is a good book by Radhakrishnan on the principal upanishads. Quite

frankly except for the Yoga-upanishads(there are 4 of them), the rest

put me to sleep:-)

 

The main scripture for Devi is the Devi Bhagavatam as George4 pointed

out. This has all the devis including some not so well known Devis

such as Ahalya, Renuka etc. There is also a great section in the

Brahmanda purana from which comes the LS. There is also the great

scripture Devi Gita, which has been superbly translated by Satyananda

Saraswati(available at amazon.com). There are bits and pieces of

stories, prayers and mantras on Devi strewn across all the puranas.

Hope that helps.

 

Aum Namasivaya

-yogaman

 

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

Ammachi/

 

Ammachi

 

 

 

 

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Ammachi, George4Mata <leokomor> wrote:

> Yogaman made excellent suggestions. Tales of Durga can be

illuminating. If mythology is ones bent then tales of Durga' and

Her Manifestatios battles have a place. But a living breathing Devi

has manifested Her gita. Awaken Children! is such a scripture..

 

The Durga Saptasati is a highly revered text. Do not make (and I am

remiding myself of this constantly) the mistake of thinking of it as

just 'mythology'.... It is deeply mystical in nature. The mere

contemplation of the Chandi or the Devi Mahatmyam (other names for

the Durga Saptasati) puts one into a deep reverie; one can feel the

Shakti by just thinking about it.... Sages have spent an entire

lifetime worshipping the Goddess thru the medium of the Chandi.

 

As a side note, please note that the Mahisasura-mardini stotram

which we all chant and like very much (21 verses) is a condensed,

melodious version of the Chandi (700 verses).

 

Jai Ma!

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Of course the Durga Saptasati from the Markendayapurana is one of the

foremost shakta hymns. Each verse of the DS is a potent mantra by

itself and some times a particular verse is chanted for a particular

purpose(eg getting a good wife LOL). I think that Satyananda

Saraswati of Devi Mandir has done an excellant translation (thank you

USA for such a swami!!!) and is available at www.amazon.com.

 

There are plenty more of Devi scriptures that are available as

Yamalas, tantras and commentaries (eg- VarivasyaRahasya by

Bhaskarayya)-makes quite fascinating reading but these are not so

readily available.

 

-yogaman

 

 

Ammachi, "manoj_menon" <ammasmon@s...> wrote:

> Ammachi, George4Mata <leokomor> wrote:

> > Yogaman made excellent suggestions. Tales of Durga can be

> illuminating. If mythology is ones bent then tales of Durga' and

> Her Manifestatios battles have a place. But a living breathing

Devi

> has manifested Her gita. Awaken Children! is such a scripture..

>

> The Durga Saptasati is a highly revered text. Do not make (and I am

> remiding myself of this constantly) the mistake of thinking of it

as

> just 'mythology'.... It is deeply mystical in nature. The mere

> contemplation of the Chandi or the Devi Mahatmyam (other names for

> the Durga Saptasati) puts one into a deep reverie; one can feel the

> Shakti by just thinking about it.... Sages have spent an entire

> lifetime worshipping the Goddess thru the medium of the Chandi.

>

> As a side note, please note that the Mahisasura-mardini stotram

> which we all chant and like very much (21 verses) is a condensed,

> melodious version of the Chandi (700 verses).

>

> Jai Ma!

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Namaste Manoj:

 

 

Manoj Menon wrote:

 

 

 

The Durga Saptasati is a highly revered text. Do not make (and I am reminding

myself of this constantly) the mistake of thinking of it as just 'mythology'....

It is deeply mystical in nature. The mere contemplation of the Chandi or the

Devi Mahatmyam (other names for the Durga Saptasati) puts one into a deep

reverie; one can feel the Shakti by just thinking about it.... Sages have spent

an entire lifetime worshipping the Goddess thru the medium of the Chandi.

 

My post was never intended to dismiss the Chandi or any Holy Scripture of any

faith. They glorify the Divine Mother and I bow down to the Holy Message they

contain.

 

To me mythology is not derisive. Mythology only intimates that they were (in

all likelihood) not historical events. To this the mind wants to say - so what!

 

The meaning gleaned from great spiritual works like those you cited is the boon.

If you felt I was dismissive then please be at rest.

 

 

 

The idea G4M wishes to offer is why not imbibe Amma's written works first. The

Divine Mother can be seen in Awaken Children in a modern earthy and relatively

understandable way. This just seems to work for me. I do not know any more

than any of you.

 

 

 

If the Chandi resonates with a sincere spiritual seeker Mother is pleased. What

then of my opinion - being a fallen soul. My preference is the One who this

list is named for. Once again I sincerely prostrate to the Great Spiritual

Scriptures you cite.

 

 

 

In and through That Effulgence,

 

 

 

George4Mata

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It should be mentioned that this Sunday, March 21st, is the first day of

Vasant Navaratri, the Springtime Nine Nights of the Goddess. It will

last through March 29th, and the 30th is <ram dussera>, "Rama's Victory."

 

Navaratri was originally an Autumn harvest festival to Durga Ma. But

during the time of the Ramayana, Lord Rama wanted Durga's blessing in his

battle against Ravanna, the demon king of Sri Lanka, and he initiated a

Springtime equivalent of the nine night festival. Included in his puja

offering were 108 beautiful lotuses. Ma Durga appeared to Rama, and

sadly informed him that she could not accept his offering -- there were

only 107 lotuses, not the prerequisite 108. Lord Rama took out his

knife, and told Ma Durga, "My wife Sita says my eyes are as beautiful as

lotuses. Will you accept one of them to make up for the missing

blossom?"

 

Durga revealed the missing lotus, which she had hidden in a fold of her

saree. "Put away your knife," she told Rama. "Ravanna has also been

asking me for victory, but he is not willing to sacrifice anything of

himself. Don't worry -- you will win this war."

 

-- Len/ Kalipadma

<Om durgam devim sharanam aham prapadye>

(Om I take refuge at the lotus feet of Durga Devi)

 

 

 

 

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:26:02 -0000 "manoj_menon" <ammasmon

writes:

> Ammachi, George4Mata <leokomor> wrote:

> > Yogaman made excellent suggestions. Tales of Durga can be

> illuminating. If mythology is ones bent then tales of Durga' and

> Her Manifestatios battles have a place. But a living breathing Devi

>

> has manifested Her gita. Awaken Children! is such a scripture..

>

> The Durga Saptasati is a highly revered text. Do not make (and I am

> remiding myself of this constantly) the mistake of thinking of it as

>

> just 'mythology'.... It is deeply mystical in nature. The mere

> contemplation of the Chandi or the Devi Mahatmyam (other names for

> the Durga Saptasati) puts one into a deep reverie; one can feel the

> Shakti by just thinking about it.... Sages have spent an entire

> lifetime worshipping the Goddess thru the medium of the Chandi.

>

> As a side note, please note that the Mahisasura-mardini stotram

> which we all chant and like very much (21 verses) is a condensed,

> melodious version of the Chandi (700 verses).

>

> Jai Ma!

>

>

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> Of course the Durga Saptasati from the

> Markendayapurana is one of the

> foremost shakta hymns. Each verse of the DS is a

> potent mantra by

> itself and some times a particular verse is chanted

> for a particular

> purpose(eg getting a good wife LOL). I think that

> Satyananda

> Saraswati of Devi Mandir has done an excellant

> translation (thank you

> USA for such a swami!!!) and is available at

> www.amazon.com.

>

>

 

I would recommend the version of the Devi Mahatmyam

published by the Sri Ramakrishna Math, if you can read

devanagari script. Even if you can't, the English

translation is quite good. In any case, it only costs

less than five bucks (or about Rs. 25 if you can find

it in India) so you can't lose.

 

 

Which sloka(s) from the Devi Mahatmyam should be

chanted for getting a good wife? I've been single way

too long :)

 

Keval

 

 

 

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> Which sloka(s) from the Devi Mahatmyam should be

> chanted for getting a good wife? I've been single way

> too long :)

>

 

Keval,

 

I cant recall off-hand but two very knowledgeable people mentioned to

me a particular shloka told me this. There are lots of nuances in

practicing a shloka from SS(end with a certain mantra, begin with a

certain mantra, you need a "key" to unlock the power of the mantra

etc) and it is best that you get this from someone knowledgeable in

this for getting a wife; and NOTE that the word is a wife, not a temp

girlfriend or live-in partner; barring unforseen circumstances, a

wife is for life:-)

 

I assume that Amma Herself initiated you; if so then what more could

you need? Amma has said that the samkalpa for a mantra can be

anything you really need. If you are really keen on getting married

soon, may i suggest that you start a purascharana(with the mantra

Amma gave you) with this aim in mind.

 

-japa should be done 3-7 am

-strict celibacy should be followed during the period

-japa starts always on exactly same time everyday; if you are off by

10 minutes, that days sadhana is over

(None of this is my invention, all of it is based on what Amma has

said one time or another)

 

40 days is the traditional period required for fruition.

 

Good luck with your search.

 

Aum Namasivaya

-yogaman

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Yogamanji,

Namah Shivaya. You are a really good source of information!

Can you tell us what is purascharana?

 

Since the LS is full of potent mantras, do you think reading it more

beneficial than regular mantra japa, for obtaining the desired goals?

 

Amme Sharanam,

ota

 

Ammachi, "childofdevi" <childofdevi>

wrote:

>

> > Which sloka(s) from the Devi Mahatmyam should be

> > chanted for getting a good wife? I've been single way

> > too long :)

> >

>

> Keval,

>

> I cant recall off-hand but two very knowledgeable people mentioned

to

> me a particular shloka told me this. There are lots of nuances in

> practicing a shloka from SS(end with a certain mantra, begin with a

> certain mantra, you need a "key" to unlock the power of the mantra

> etc) and it is best that you get this from someone knowledgeable in

> this for getting a wife; and NOTE that the word is a wife, not a

temp

> girlfriend or live-in partner; barring unforseen circumstances, a

> wife is for life:-)

>

> I assume that Amma Herself initiated you; if so then what more

could

> you need? Amma has said that the samkalpa for a mantra can be

> anything you really need. If you are really keen on getting married

> soon, may i suggest that you start a purascharana(with the mantra

> Amma gave you) with this aim in mind.

>

> -japa should be done 3-7 am

> -strict celibacy should be followed during the period

> -japa starts always on exactly same time everyday; if you are off

by

> 10 minutes, that days sadhana is over

> (None of this is my invention, all of it is based on what Amma has

> said one time or another)

>

> 40 days is the traditional period required for fruition.

>

> Good luck with your search.

>

> Aum Namasivaya

> -yogaman

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OTA:

 

Purascharana is the process of systematically using a mantra(chanting

it 100,000 times minimum) for some need(eg son, job, health, etc).

There are lot of restrictions for a purascharana but the most

important are Japa during Brahmamuhurta(3-6 am when effects of japa

are 10-fold if you can wake up :-)), SAME TIME and SAME PLACE(eg

pooja room) everday.

 

Which is better? For a particular need I personally think that mantra

is better(like vaccination) and the LS is for all-round welfare(like

a multi-vitamin tablet)-these are only my opinions and may be

different from how it will be for you. You can also do a purascharana

with LS. Amma Herself has said that more important is concentration

and focus during the sadhana.

 

For a detailed procedure on purascharana, try to get the book Japa

Yoga by Swami Sivananda(there are pieces of this book available

freely at www.sivananadadlshq.org).

 

Aum Namasivaya

-yogaman

 

Ammachi, "one_tiny_atom" <one_tiny_atom>

wrote:

> Yogamanji,

> Namah Shivaya. You are a really good source of information!

> Can you tell us what is purascharana?

>

> Since the LS is full of potent mantras, do you think reading it

more

> beneficial than regular mantra japa, for obtaining the desired

goals?

>

> Amme Sharanam,

> ota

>

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Namah Shivaya

 

My 2c;

 

Purascharana is actually doing the japa 100000 times the number of syllables

the mantra has- for example Om Namah Shivaya has 5 syllables- ( excluding Om) -

so Purascharana of the Namah shivaya mantra means repeating it 5*100000 =

500000 times.

To complete a purascharana can take many days/weeks/months- esp if the mantra

is long- for example the Gayatri has 24 syllbales- so purascharana of that would

mean repeating the Gayatri 24*100000= 2400000 times....

 

Purascharana is an extremely powerful practice....

 

bala

 

 

 

 

childofdevi <childofdevi wrote:

 

OTA:

 

Purascharana is the process of systematically using a mantra(chanting

it 100,000 times minimum) for some need(eg son, job, health, etc).

There are lot of restrictions for a purascharana but the most

important are Japa during Brahmamuhurta(3-6 am when effects of japa

are 10-fold if you can wake up :-)), SAME TIME and SAME PLACE(eg

pooja room) everday.

 

Which is better? For a particular need I personally think that mantra

is better(like vaccination) and the LS is for all-round welfare(like

a multi-vitamin tablet)-these are only my opinions and may be

different from how it will be for you. You can also do a purascharana

with LS. Amma Herself has said that more important is concentration

and focus during the sadhana.

 

For a detailed procedure on purascharana, try to get the book Japa

Yoga by Swami Sivananda(there are pieces of this book available

freely at www.sivananadadlshq.org).

 

Aum Namasivaya

-yogaman

 

Ammachi, "one_tiny_atom" <one_tiny_atom>

wrote:

> Yogamanji,

> Namah Shivaya. You are a really good source of information!

> Can you tell us what is purascharana?

>

> Since the LS is full of potent mantras, do you think reading it

more

> beneficial than regular mantra japa, for obtaining the desired

goals?

>

> Amme Sharanam,

> ota

>

 

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

Ammachi/

 

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