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Does Amma recommend that one meditate on light if they don't feel any

connection to a particular form of God, or is it imperative that

we 'choose' a particular form to meditate on?

 

I know that She gives formless mantras for love/light - but haven't

heard Her speak about meditating on the formless.....has anyone

else?:)

 

Peace and blessings,

 

Niscala

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Namah Shivaya,

 

Amma seems to recommend we meditatate on a form. Amma

is a form of God, and you can meditate on Her. I've

read that She has said we need to cultivate longing

and devotion, and that we little children require a

form for that focus.

 

However don't take my word on this. When I have more

time I'll post the appropriate passages from books

recording Amma's teachings.

 

Gabriela

 

 

--- anandam33 <anandam33 wrote:

> Does Amma recommend that one meditate on light if

> they don't feel any

> connection to a particular form of God, or is it

> imperative that

> we 'choose' a particular form to meditate on?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yes, many times, I have heard Amma and the swamis instruct those who worship G-d

as formless to meditate on light. Blessings, Iswari

 

Ammachi, "anandam33" <anandam33> wrote:

> Does Amma recommend that one meditate on light if they don't feel any

> connection to a particular form of God, or is it imperative that

> we 'choose' a particular form to meditate on?

>

> I know that She gives formless mantras for love/light - but haven't

> heard Her speak about meditating on the formless.....has anyone

> else?:)

>

> Peace and blessings,

>

> Niscala

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Namah Shivaya,

When I received my first mantra, I received a formless mantra. I didn't

know how to meditate then, so I got confused when a swami asked me what

form of God I meditate on. When I said I didn't meditate he said for me to

meditate on light or Amma.

 

Fe

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"ammasiswari" <ammasiswari

<Ammachi>

Friday, April 30, 2004 6:22 PM

Re: Meditating on the formless?

 

 

> Yes, many times, I have heard Amma and the swamis instruct those who

worship G-d

> as formless to meditate on light. Blessings, Iswari

>

> Ammachi, "anandam33" <anandam33> wrote:

> > Does Amma recommend that one meditate on light if they don't feel any

> > connection to a particular form of God, or is it imperative that

> > we 'choose' a particular form to meditate on?

> >

> > I know that She gives formless mantras for love/light - but haven't

> > heard Her speak about meditating on the formless.....has anyone

> > else?:)

> >

> > Peace and blessings,

> >

> > Niscala

>

>

>

>

> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

> Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I had a friend who went for darshan to Amma during Devi Bhava. This

friend had no interest in Hinduism, and didn't strongly identify with any

other particular religion. Yet she felt compelled to ask Ammachi for a

mantra, and when asked what her "chosen deity" was, she said she would

leave it to Amma.

 

After <mantra diksha>, my friend ran to me and told me her mantra! (I

had warned her that your mantra should remain a secret between you and

your Guru.) She insisted that she wanted me to "translate" her mantra.

Well, what Amma gave her was a string of <bija> syllables -- the seed of

Good Beginnings, the seed of Wealth, the seed of Illusion, the Seed of

Desire... but no Deity name, and no form of "I bow to..." or "I make

offering to..."

 

It sounded pretty formless to me!

 

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:36:28 -0000 "anandam33" <anandam33

writes:

> Does Amma recommend that one meditate on light if they don't feel any

>

> connection to a particular form of God, or is it imperative that

> we 'choose' a particular form to meditate on?

>

> I know that She gives formless mantras for love/light - but haven't

> heard Her speak about meditating on the formless.....has anyone

> else?:)

>

> Peace and blessings,

>

> Niscala

>

 

 

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Namaste Kalipadma,

 

I was wondering if you still know these mantras, could you please email them

to me and there translations. I would appriciate it greatly. :-)

 

At Amma's Feet,

Robin

 

kalipadma wrote:

 

I had a friend who went for darshan to Amma during Devi Bhava. This

friend had no interest in Hinduism, and didn't strongly identify with any

other particular religion. Yet she felt compelled to ask Ammachi for a

mantra, and when asked what her "chosen deity" was, she said she would

leave it to Amma.

 

After <mantra diksha>, my friend ran to me and told me her mantra! (I

had warned her that your mantra should remain a secret between you and

your Guru.) She insisted that she wanted me to "translate" her mantra.

Well, what Amma gave her was a string of <bija> syllables -- the seed of

Good Beginnings, the seed of Wealth, the seed of Illusion, the Seed of

Desire... but no Deity name, and no form of "I bow to..." or "I make

offering to..."

 

It sounded pretty formless to me!

 

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:36:28 -0000 "anandam33" <anandam33

writes:

> Does Amma recommend that one meditate on light if they don't feel any

>

> connection to a particular form of God, or is it imperative that

> we 'choose' a particular form to meditate on?

>

> I know that She gives formless mantras for love/light - but haven't

> heard Her speak about meditating on the formless.....has anyone

> else?:)

>

> Peace and blessings,

>

> Niscala

>

 

 

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Dear Robin --

 

Amma choses mantras specifically for each individual devotee. I don't

know that this combination of <bijas> is appropriate for you.

 

There are many books and websites that list the various <bija>/ seed

mantras. I know there's a chapter in Alain Danielou's "Hindu

Polytheism," and in Swami Sivananda's "Mantra Japa."

 

The point of <bija> mantras is you CAN'T translate them. They are

single syllable sounds which have effects, but no particular meaning.

And I understand that, until a <bija> has been whispered in your ear by

an authentic Sat-Guru (like Ammachi), it will have no effect until

hundreds of thousands of repetitions have been chanted.

 

The only <bijas> I know which have an effect without <diksha> (proper

initiation) are the Pranava, pronounced "Aum," and the Seed of Illusion

(Maya Bija), pronounced "Hrim." "Aum" attunes you to the vibration of

the universe, and gets the attention of the Gods. "Hrim" makes you aware

of Maya, the illusion of reality which the Goddess weaves for Her (and

our) entertainment.

 

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

 

On Sat, 1 May 2004 15:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Robin Wilson

<lilymoonjewel writes:

> Namaste Kalipadma,

>

> I was wondering if you still know these mantras, could you please

> email them to me and there translations. I would appriciate it

> greatly. :-)

>

> At Amma's Feet,

> Robin

>

> kalipadma wrote:

>

> I had a friend who went for darshan to Amma during Devi Bhava. This

> friend had no interest in Hinduism, and didn't strongly identify

> with any

> other particular religion. Yet she felt compelled to ask Ammachi

> for a

> mantra, and when asked what her "chosen deity" was, she said she

> would

> leave it to Amma.

>

> After <mantra diksha>, my friend ran to me and told me her mantra!

> (I

> had warned her that your mantra should remain a secret between you

> and

> your Guru.) She insisted that she wanted me to "translate" her

> mantra.

> Well, what Amma gave her was a string of <bija> syllables -- the

> seed of

> Good Beginnings, the seed of Wealth, the seed of Illusion, the Seed

> of

> Desire... but no Deity name, and no form of "I bow to..." or "I make

> offering to..."

>

> It sounded pretty formless to me!

>

 

 

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