Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 I have a question that is on my mind and bothering me in the back of my mind. I read in one of Amma's books that women should not go to temples on there menstruations? That they have "bad germs" at this time. And can not think clearly. Why do you think this is I don't understand. I get it but I don't understand it. Why are we "impure" at this time. What makes us "impure"? And when do men have "impure" times? Is this just in women? She said it was OK to chant your mantra but to avoid the temples? Is this true for my meditation alter too? Should I also avoid that during this time of the month? Please enlighten me on this subject. Please send me your prayers or just drop in a line so I know that I am not alone. I am in need of family and friends. All my love. At Amma's Lotus Feet, Robin Dear Robin, Prayers are surely coming your way! I hope your ex-husband finds the new job he needs and that all your needs are met as well! The question about women in temples during menstuation is one of my pet peeves and one reason I will never consider myself Hindu. Supposedly women are "cleansed" each month during their monthly cycle and impure while that's happening. Bhai Sahib, the Sufi saint, puts a more positive spin on it and says that women are never impure because of this--if I recall correctly. As a western woman, I just think it's a vestige of the dark ages. That and other even more regressive attitudes toward women are why Amma made the UN speech she did. To myself and other western women who have visited India, the overall message is that women are second-class citizens. I believe Gandhi said India would only be truly free when the birth of a daughter was greeted with as much joy as the birth of a son. Even today, one can read that in India a woman is considered only half-fertile if she has daughters and no son. (Bah humbug!) Unborn females (in India and in the world over) are aborted far more often than unborn males. In India it's so bad that the future generation of young men won't have enough women to marry, even. I'm so glad I'm a western woman! The churches here don't care what your body's doing! Love and sorry to be on my soapbox, Jyotsna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 > To myself and other western women who have visited India, the > overall message is that women are second-class citizens. I > believe Gandhi said India would only be truly free when the > birth of a daughter was greeted with as much joy as the birth > of a son. Even today, one can read that in India a woman is > considered only half-fertile if she has daughters and no son. > (Bah humbug!) Unborn females (in India and in the world over) are aborted far more often than unborn males. In India it's so bad that the future generation of young men won't have enough women to marry, even. > > Jyotsna-ji, I will submit that this is not the case. To every person the first aphorism is Matru Bhavo Deva( Mother is God) and as a symbol of divinity the Mother takes precedence over the Father and Guru as well. In all the scripturual stories, the screwed up ones are usually men; there is not a single woman in puranic lore who is depicted in a bad light( the one exception may be Ahalya, spouse of rishi Gautama). I will agree that lofty truths when percolated down to crass and common man, are often distorted beyond recognition. Actually in my opinon, the treatment of women in the west is just as bad; there only is a superficial semblance of freedom (have to rush off for now, but will write on this later). It may interest you to know that in Kerala, the birth of woman alone is celebrated; and property used to inherited from mother to daughter. -yogaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 > To myself and other western women who have visited India, the > overall message is that women are second-class citizens. I > believe Gandhi said India would only be truly free when the > birth of a daughter was greeted with as much joy as the birth > of a son. Even today, one can read that in India a woman is > considered only half-fertile if she has daughters and no son. > (Bah humbug!) Unborn females (in India and in the world over) are aborted far more often than unborn males. In India it's so bad that the future generation of young men won't have enough women to marry, even. > > Jyotsna-ji, I will submit that this is not the case. To every person the first aphorism is Matru Bhavo Deva( Mother is God) and as a symbol of divinity the Mother takes precedence over the Father and Guru as well. In all the scripturual stories, the screwed up ones are usually men; there is not a single woman in puranic lore who is depicted in a bad light( the one exception may be Ahalya, spouse of rishi Gautama). I will agree that lofty truths when percolated down to crass and common man, are often distorted beyond recognition. Actually in my opinon, the treatment of women in the west is just as bad; there only is a superficial semblance of freedom (have to rush off for now, but will write on this later). It may interest you to know that in Kerala, the birth of woman alone is celebrated; and property used to inherited from mother to daughter. -yogaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 childofdevi <childofdevi wrote: > > Jyotsna-ji, I will submit that this is not the case. Which statement is not the case? To every person the first aphorism is Matru Bhavo Deva( Mother is God) and as a symbol of divinity the Mother takes precedence over the Father and Guru as well. In all the scripturual stories, the screwed up ones are usually men; there is not a single woman in puranic lore who is depicted in a bad light( the one exception may be Ahalya, spouse of rishi Gautama). I will agree that lofty truths when percolated down to crass and common man, are often distorted beyond recognition. Yes, that was my experience. Actually in my opinon, the treatment of women in the west is just as bad; there only is a superficial semblance of freedom (have to rush off for now, but will write on this later). It may interest you to know that in Kerala, the birth of woman alone is celebrated; and property used to inherited from mother to daughter. Well, somewhere in my voluminous reading, I saw it written that because Amma was born a girl (in Kerala) her parents didn't even bother to notify relatives. It was thought to be a non-event. I appreciate your kind and considerate approach, Jyotsna Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Jyotsna, Your letter represented a stereotypical view of India. "To myself and other western women who visited India, the overall message is that women are second-class citizen" I agree, there are problems in remote villages or small towns of India, where women are not considered equal. However, majority of Indians worship women, and put them on pedestals. Indians had elected a woman Prime Minister in 1966. You can find women in high places all over India. I don't think a woman or a minority can become the US President in next 20 years! Even today, women in US earn less salary compared to what the guys make. You generalize an entire popoluation with your view without knowing the facts. It's like a foreigner going to some small town in Alabama or Mississppi and say all Americans are racists! Indian society in general are diverse, but very accepting. I come from a matriarchial family, in which women have the ultimate authority. Even though you mentioned "to myself and other western women who visited India", I think your statement only represents your own view, not others. "I'm so glad I'm a western woman! The churches here don't care what your body's doing" Oh really? I thought the churches here were against women's choices for pregnancy, abortion, and every other aspects of their lives. "E. Lamb" <jyotsna2 wrote: I have a question that is on my mind and bothering me in the back of my mind. I read in one of Amma's books that women should not go to temples on there menstruations? That they have "bad germs" at this time. And can not think clearly. Why do you think this is I don't understand. I get it but I don't understand it. Why are we "impure" at this time. What makes us "impure"? And when do men have "impure" times? Is this just in women? She said it was OK to chant your mantra but to avoid the temples? Is this true for my meditation alter too? Should I also avoid that during this time of the month? Please enlighten me on this subject. Please send me your prayers or just drop in a line so I know that I am not alone. I am in need of family and friends. All my love. At Amma's Lotus Feet, Robin Dear Robin, Prayers are surely coming your way! I hope your ex-husband finds the new job he needs and that all your needs are met as well! The question about women in temples during menstuation is one of my pet peeves and one reason I will never consider myself Hindu. Supposedly women are "cleansed" each month during their monthly cycle and impure while that's happening. Bhai Sahib, the Sufi saint, puts a more positive spin on it and says that women are never impure because of this--if I recall correctly. As a western woman, I just think it's a vestige of the dark ages. That and other even more regressive attitudes toward women are why Amma made the UN speech she did. To myself and other western women who have visited India, the overall message is that women are second-class citizens. I believe Gandhi said India would only be truly free when the birth of a daughter was greeted with as much joy as the birth of a son. Even today, one can read that in India a woman is considered only half-fertile if she has daughters and no son. (Bah humbug!) Unborn females (in India and in the world over) are aborted far more often than unborn males. In India it's so bad that the future generation of young men won't have enough women to marry, even. I'm so glad I'm a western woman! The churches here don't care what your body's doing! Love and sorry to be on my soapbox, Jyotsna Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Hi Robin, Alas, only the male version of this story seems to be widely circulated. Will someone on the list please ask Amma to talk about women's menstrual time? I know she has something to say about it or a more positive nature than we usually hear because when asked if women should do the "I AM" meditation technique during their periods, Amma said that women should increase their spiritual practices during their periods. I will give one example from my own life. When my mother died, I had my period as I went through dealing with her family, making the funeral and burial arrangments and walking through that final process. The following month, when I was back in an ashram studying Sanskrit and Vedanta, when my period came, I was struck with great sadness, a sense of loss, and tension, as if I was again reliving my mother's death and final arrangements. Each month thereafter, the feelings returned. Each month they were less intense and they continued to replay for 6 months. This experience showed me very clearly that what we do during our menstrual periods is imprinted in the homronal cycle and will replay for some time afterward. Thiscould be really important for women in relationship to realize. Long ago in every culture I've every heard about women went into some kind of seclusion during their menstrual period. In indigenous cultures who are living in a traditional way, this time is considered both sacred and powerful. Native Americans expect the women of the community to receive divine directions for their communities and families through their dreams at this special time. These dreams are shared among the women to identify important themes and then shared with the community. We have lost reverence for the sacred embodied as women. We have forgotten that this time is our most powerful visioning time until menopause. Most of us have forgotten the women's rituals done when menstruation starts (menarche) and how to value this very special time. Will somebody please ask Amma to speak more about why women should increase their spiritual practices during their menstrual time? Aikya Ammachi, "E. Lamb" <jyotsna2> wrote: > I have a question that is on my mind and bothering me in the back of my mind. I read in one of Amma's books that women should not go to temples on there menstruations? That they have "bad germs" at this time. And can not think clearly. Why do you think this is I don't understand. I get it but I don't understand it. Why are we "impure" at this time. What makes us "impure"? And when do men have "impure" times? Is this just in women? She said it was OK to chant your mantra but to avoid the temples? Is this true for my meditation alter too? Should I also avoid that during this time of the month? Please enlighten me on this subject. > > Please send me your prayers or just drop in a line so I know that I am not alone. I am in need of family and friends. All my love. > > At Amma's Lotus Feet, > Robin > > > Dear Robin, > > Prayers are surely coming your way! I hope your ex-husband finds the new job he needs and that all your needs are met as > well! > > The question about women in temples during menstuation is one > of my pet peeves and one reason I will never consider myself > Hindu. Supposedly women are "cleansed" each month during their > monthly cycle and impure while that's happening. Bhai Sahib, the Sufi saint, puts a more positive spin on it and says that women are never impure because of this--if I recall correctly. As a western woman, I just think it's a vestige of the dark ages. That and other even more regressive attitudes toward women are why Amma made the UN speech she did. > > To myself and other western women who have visited India, the > overall message is that women are second-class citizens. I > believe Gandhi said India would only be truly free when the > birth of a daughter was greeted with as much joy as the birth > of a son. Even today, one can read that in India a woman is > considered only half-fertile if she has daughters and no son. > (Bah humbug!) Unborn females (in India and in the world over) are aborted far more often than unborn males. In India it's so bad that the future generation of young men won't have enough women to marry, even. > > > I'm so glad I'm a western woman! The churches here don't care > what your body's doing! > > Love and sorry to be on my soapbox, > Jyotsna > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Dearest Robin, Do you have a Paypal account?? With love, Your sister in Amma, Niseema Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Namaste Aikya Param, I would like to know the answer to this also. I am hearing about the culture of India, I would like to know the (why) Amma has said this. I am not upset about it. I just want to understand it. Why are we impure at this time. What makes us this way. Why aren't men impure or are they? What about ejaculation? Doesn't she speak of this as impurities? Are they not similar? Isn't our monthly something that is a part of nature? How can we help that we are this way? My point being we can't help being on our monthly, with our "impurities" , to where most of the time men can help themselves. What else does she say about this subject. I would like to know. What does she say about our Alters at home? Are we to stay away and keep those "pure" as well. What about when we go through the change...are we then going to be "pure" from that time forward? The "Wise Woman"? What does she say about the change of life? And would it be abnormal NOT to have our monthly? I got off the pill because I thought that it was unnatural. So that I WOULD have them. Would it be better to get the shot and NOT have them? What are all your thoughts on these questions. Amma says that we should increase our spiritual practices during this time? What more does she say on this subject? At Amma's Lotus Feet, Robin PS Thank you for all your prayers and responses. Aikya Param <aikya wrote: Hi Robin, Alas, only the male version of this story seems to be widely circulated. Will someone on the list please ask Amma to talk about women's menstrual time? I know she has something to say about it or a more positive nature than we usually hear because when asked if women should do the "I AM" meditation technique during their periods, Amma said that women should increase their spiritual practices during their periods. I will give one example from my own life. When my mother died, I had my period as I went through dealing with her family, making the funeral and burial arrangments and walking through that final process. The following month, when I was back in an ashram studying Sanskrit and Vedanta, when my period came, I was struck with great sadness, a sense of loss, and tension, as if I was again reliving my mother's death and final arrangements. Each month thereafter, the feelings returned. Each month they were less intense and they continued to replay for 6 months. This experience showed me very clearly that what we do during our menstrual periods is imprinted in the homronal cycle and will replay for some time afterward. Thiscould be really important for women in relationship to realize. Long ago in every culture I've every heard about women went into some kind of seclusion during their menstrual period. In indigenous cultures who are living in a traditional way, this time is considered both sacred and powerful. Native Americans expect the women of the community to receive divine directions for their communities and families through their dreams at this special time. These dreams are shared among the women to identify important themes and then shared with the community. We have lost reverence for the sacred embodied as women. We have forgotten that this time is our most powerful visioning time until menopause. Most of us have forgotten the women's rituals done when menstruation starts (menarche) and how to value this very special time. Will somebody please ask Amma to speak more about why women should increase their spiritual practices during their menstrual time? Aikya Ammachi, "E. Lamb" <jyotsna2> wrote: > I have a question that is on my mind and bothering me in the back of my mind. I read in one of Amma's books that women should not go to temples on there menstruations? That they have "bad germs" at this time. And can not think clearly. Why do you think this is I don't understand. I get it but I don't understand it. Why are we "impure" at this time. What makes us "impure"? And when do men have "impure" times? Is this just in women? She said it was OK to chant your mantra but to avoid the temples? Is this true for my meditation alter too? Should I also avoid that during this time of the month? Please enlighten me on this subject. > > Please send me your prayers or just drop in a line so I know that I am not alone. I am in need of family and friends. All my love. > > At Amma's Lotus Feet, > Robin > > > Dear Robin, > > Prayers are surely coming your way! I hope your ex-husband finds the new job he needs and that all your needs are met as > well! > > The question about women in temples during menstuation is one > of my pet peeves and one reason I will never consider myself > Hindu. Supposedly women are "cleansed" each month during their > monthly cycle and impure while that's happening. Bhai Sahib, the Sufi saint, puts a more positive spin on it and says that women are never impure because of this--if I recall correctly. As a western woman, I just think it's a vestige of the dark ages. That and other even more regressive attitudes toward women are why Amma made the UN speech she did. > > To myself and other western women who have visited India, the > overall message is that women are second-class citizens. I > believe Gandhi said India would only be truly free when the > birth of a daughter was greeted with as much joy as the birth > of a son. Even today, one can read that in India a woman is > considered only half-fertile if she has daughters and no son. > (Bah humbug!) Unborn females (in India and in the world over) are aborted far more often than unborn males. In India it's so bad that the future generation of young men won't have enough women to marry, even. > > > I'm so glad I'm a western woman! The churches here don't care > what your body's doing! > > Love and sorry to be on my soapbox, > Jyotsna > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Here's what Swami Ranganathananda, the President of the Ramakrishna Order has to say on this topic: Giving up untouchability in all its forms also means that women are pure even in their monthly periods. Untruth and other vices alone constitute impurity for a human being. Hence they are free to go through Upasana regularly during the periods also. Use your intelligence freely. On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:19:26 -0000, Aikya Param <aikya wrote: > > Hi Robin, > > Alas, only the male version of this story seems to be widely > circulated. Will someone on the list please ask Amma to talk about > women's menstrual time? I know she has something to say about it or > a more positive nature than we usually hear because when asked if > women should do the "I AM" meditation technique during their > periods, Amma said that women should increase their spiritual > practices during their periods. > > I will give one example from my own life. When my mother died, I > had my period as I went through dealing with her family, making the > funeral and burial arrangments and walking through that final > process. The following month, when I was back in an ashram studying > Sanskrit and Vedanta, when my period came, I was struck with great > sadness, a sense of loss, and tension, as if I was again reliving my > mother's death and final arrangements. Each month thereafter, the > feelings returned. Each month they were less intense and they > continued to replay for 6 months. This experience showed me very > clearly that what we do during our menstrual periods is imprinted in > the homronal cycle and will replay for some time afterward. > Thiscould be really important for women in relationship to realize. > > Long ago in every culture I've every heard about women went into > some kind of seclusion during their menstrual period. In indigenous > cultures who are living in a traditional way, this time is > considered both sacred and powerful. Native Americans expect the > women of the community to receive divine directions for their > communities and families through their dreams at this special time. > These dreams are shared among the women to identify important themes > and then shared with the community. > > We have lost reverence for the sacred embodied as women. We have > forgotten that this time is our most powerful visioning time until > menopause. Most of us have forgotten the women's rituals done when > menstruation starts (menarche) and how to value this very special > time. > > Will somebody please ask Amma to speak more about why women should > increase their spiritual practices during their menstrual time? > > Aikya > > Ammachi, "E. Lamb" <jyotsna2> wrote: > > I have a question that is on my mind and bothering me in the back > of my mind. I read in one of Amma's books that women should not go > to temples on there menstruations? That they have "bad germs" at > this time. And can not think clearly. Why do you think this is I > don't understand. I get it but I don't understand it. Why are > we "impure" at this time. What makes us "impure"? And when do men > have "impure" times? Is this just in women? She said it was OK to > chant your mantra but to avoid the temples? Is this true for my > meditation alter too? Should I also avoid that during this time of > the month? Please enlighten me on this subject. > > > > Please send me your prayers or just drop in a line so I know > that I am not alone. I am in need of family and friends. All my > love. > > > > At Amma's Lotus Feet, > > Robin > > > > > > Dear Robin, > > > > Prayers are surely coming your way! I hope your ex-husband finds > the new job he needs and that all your needs are met as > > well! > > > > The question about women in temples during menstuation is one > > of my pet peeves and one reason I will never consider myself > > Hindu. Supposedly women are "cleansed" each month during their > > monthly cycle and impure while that's happening. Bhai Sahib, the > Sufi saint, puts a more positive spin on it and says that women are > never impure because of this--if I recall correctly. As a western > woman, I just think it's a vestige of the dark ages. That and other > even more regressive attitudes toward women are why Amma made the UN > speech she did. > > > > To myself and other western women who have visited India, the > > overall message is that women are second-class citizens. I > > believe Gandhi said India would only be truly free when the > > birth of a daughter was greeted with as much joy as the birth > > of a son. Even today, one can read that in India a woman is > > considered only half-fertile if she has daughters and no son. > > (Bah humbug!) Unborn females (in India and in the world over) are > aborted far more often than unborn males. In India it's so bad that > the future generation of young men won't have enough women to marry, > even. > > > > > > I'm so glad I'm a western woman! The churches here don't care > > what your body's doing! > > > > Love and sorry to be on my soapbox, > > Jyotsna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> > Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Companion Toolbar. > Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! > http://us.click./L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/XUWolB/TM > > > --~-> > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Dear Girish, Thank you. Finally some sanity emerges. Girish <girishsv wrote: Here's what Swami Ranganathananda, the President of the Ramakrishna Order has to say on this topic: Giving up untouchability in all its forms also means that women are pure even in their monthly periods. Untruth and other vices alone constitute impurity for a human being. Hence they are free to go through Upasana regularly during the periods also. Use your intelligence freely. On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:19:26 -0000, Aikya Param <aikya wrote: > > Hi Robin, > Will someone on the list please ask Amma to talk about > women's menstrual time? I thought she already spoke of the negativity in the Awaken Children series. I happen to have the biography in front of me, and on page 94, she says "....from this day on, the little one is ever pure." A footnote (#22) explains "After Krishna Bhava began, Sudhamani never had her monthly period." In Amma, Jyotsna with great > sadness, a sense of loss, and tension, as if I was again reliving my > mother's death and final arrangements. Each month thereafter, the > feelings returned. Each month they were less intense and they > continued to replay for 6 months. This experience showed me very > clearly that what we do during our menstrual periods is imprinted in > the homronal cycle and will replay for some time afterward. > Thiscould be re > > Ammachi, "E. Lamb" <jyotsna2> wrote: > > I have a question that is on my mind and bothering me in the back > of my mind. I read in one of Amma's books that women should not go > this is I > don't understand. I get it but I don't understand it. Why are > we "impure" at this time. What makes us "impure"? And when do men > have "impure" times? Is this just in women? She said it was OK to > chant your mantra but to avoid the temples? Is this true for my > meditation alter too? Should I also avoid that during this time of > the month? Please enlighten me on this subject. > > > > Please send me your prayers or just drop in a line so I know > that I am not alone. I am in need of family and friends. All my > love. > > > > At Amma's Lotus Feet, > > Robin > > > > > > Dear Robin, > > > > Prayers are surely coming your way! I hope your ex-husband finds > the new job he needs and that all your needs are met as > > well! > > > > The question about women in temples during menstuation is one > > of my pet peeves and one reason I will never consider myself > > Hindu. Supposedly women are "cleansed" each month during their > > monthly cycle and impure while that's happening. Bhai Sahib, the > Sufi saint, puts a more positive spin on it and says that women are > never impure because of this--if I recall correctly. As a western > woman, I just think it's a vestige of the dark ages. That and other > even more regressive attitudes toward women are why Amma made the UN > speech she did. > > > > To myself and other western women who have visited India, the > > overall message is that women are second-class citizens. I > > believe Gandhi said India would only be truly free when the > > birth of a daughter was greeted with as much joy as the birth > > of a son. Even today, one can read that in India a woman is > > considered only half-fertile if she has daughters and no son. > > (Bah humbug!) Unborn females (in India and in the world over) are > aborted far more often than unborn males. In India it's so bad that > the future generation of young men won't have enough women to marry, > even. > > > > > > I'm so glad I'm a western woman! The churches here don't care > > what your body's doing! > > > > Love and sorry to be on my soapbox, > > Jyotsna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> > Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Companion Toolbar. > Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! > http://us.click./L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/XUWolB/TM > > > --~-> > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > Links > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Ammachi, Girish <girishsv@g...> wrote: > Here's what Swami Ranganathananda, the President of the Ramakrishna > Order has to say on this topic: > Giving up untouchability in all its forms also means that women are > pure even in their monthly periods. Untruth and other vices alone > constitute impurity for a human being. Hence they are free to go > through Upasana regularly during the periods also. > Use your intelligence freely. Another reminder of why I fell in love with Ramakrishna and his teachings! Thanks for this post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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