On Amma only helping devotees

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Someone wrote:

 

> If you read her newsgroup, her devotees keep touting that Ammachi

> will only help those who have taken refuge in her - 10,000 in her

> ashram were saved but the villagers outside her ashram died.

 

 

 

To everyone: I don't know who wrote the above, and that is not important.

Also, I am disobeying my own suggestion by responding to this, but I just could

not let this stand.

>From the accounts I have read, some of which have been posted here by people

who were at the ashram, even before the flooding hit the ashram, when there

was an initial wash of water along the coast of the nearby area, Amma sent

devotees to bring the curious people away and to safety. These people were

certainly not all direct devotees of Amma.

 

When the floodwaters hit, Amma quit giving darshan, directed the people in

the Ashram (about 20,000 reported on Her website) to the upper floors) and

waded out into the water to direct efforts to save lives. She gave not thought

to

Her own safety. She had devotees attach ropes to the ashram so they could sa

fely get to people who were trapped in the waters and bring them back to

safety. And She did not leave the ashram area until everyone in the area had

been

taken to safety at Her engineering college. She even made sure that families

were kept together as they were taken to safety.

 

"Even now her devotees are feeding all the refugees from the villages near

the ashram, as well as attending to their other needs. Again, not all these

people are necessarily devotees of Amma. The following is from Amma's website:

 

Under Amma's instructions, relief camps were set up at both the Amrita

University School of Engineering and at the new Ayurveda School. More than 3,000

evacuees are being accommodated there. Nine of the area's schools were set up

as disaster shelters by the government, and Amma's ashram has been providing

those shelters with food and other necessities like clothes and blankets. Six

ambulances from the Ashram's AIMS Hospital, with medical teams lead by 10

doctors are making regular rounds as mobile medical units. They are visiting

each shelter every two hours, 24 hours a day.

Buzzing with activity, the Ashram is preparing food three times a day for

10,000 people, cooking the rice, uppama and curries, with many of the devotees

from around the world chopping vegetables, glad to chip in their bit toward

the effort. Sacks of uncooked rice are also being delivered for distribution

among the needy.

Amma’s ashram is also actively involved in relief operations in Cochin

(Vaippin), Trivandrum, Chennai and Pondicherry. Amma has instructed all the

Ashram

branches throughout South India to help in the relief efforts."

I regret to have violated my own request not to respond to attacks on Amma,

but again, I repeat, I could not let the above stand. Amma does not turn

anyone away. She has directed "Amma's Kitchens" to be set up by devotees all

over

America to feed the hungry. No one is asked for their Amma pass at the door.

Amma's only concern is to alleviate suffering in all forms. Jai Ma ~ Linda

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank You linda for the post. The author of the doubt was Anamika

fisher.

 

Just reflect on the name and you will know why.

 

I tried to reason. The post was made on another . The

reason is obvious.

 

I explained to him/her/it that Amma is not like other "saints" who

wrote to Judges for indulgence for criminals who defalcated money of

old and infirm poensioners and paid part of the stolen money to them

for their "charity".

 

But she/he/it said:-

 

"Beggars can't be choosers, OK? We will check out the charity before

we send money. We want India to break free from the cycle of poverty

NOT keep revolving in it endlessly.

 

We also would like our money to go directly to the people most in

need and as quickly as possible. If you have a problem with it, that

is your problem."

 

normally I myself will not respond to attacks; but when India is

called a "begger" thats the last straw.

 

India and its saints are not like many elsewhere. That people must

understand.

 

(To the moderator):- If you think the post is inapprtopriate please

feel free to reject. I have no problems. But I am hurt at the

attitude of many and the attack on Amma despite the fact that i am

not devotee(I do not deserve that name).

 

 

Ammachi, nierika@a... wrote:

 

Someone wrote:

 

If you read her newsgroup, her devotees keep touting that Ammachi

will only help those who have taken refuge in her - 10,000 in her

ashram were saved but the villagers outside her ashram died.

 

To everyone: I don't know who wrote the above, and that is not

important. Also, I am disobeying my own suggestion by responding to

this, but I just could not let this stand.

From the accounts I have read, some of which have been posted here

by people who were at the ashram, even before the flooding hit the

ashram, when there was an initial wash of water along the coast of

the nearby area, Amma sent devotees to bring the curious people away

and to safety. These people were certainly not all direct devotees

of Amma.

 

When the floodwaters hit, Amma quit giving darshan, directed the

people in the Ashram (about 20,000 reported on Her website) to the

upper floors) and waded out into the water to direct efforts to save

lives. She gave not thought to Her own safety. She had devotees

attach ropes to the ashram so they could safely get to people who

were trapped in the waters and bring them back to safety. And She

did not leave the ashram area until everyone in the area had been

taken to safety at Her engineering college. She even made sure that

families were kept together as they were taken to safety.

 

"Even now her devotees are feeding all the refugees from the

villages near the ashram, as well as attending to their other needs.

Again, not all these people are necessarily devotees of Amma. The

following is from Amma's website:

 

Under Amma's instructions, relief camps were set up at both the

Amrita University School of Engineering and at the new Ayurveda

School. More than 3,000 evacuees are being accommodated there. Nine

of the area's schools were set up as disaster shelters by the

government, and Amma's ashram has been providing those shelters with

food and other necessities like clothes and blankets. Six ambulances

from the Ashram's AIMS Hospital, with medical teams lead by 10

doctors are making regular rounds as mobile medical units. They are

visiting each shelter every two hours, 24 hours a day.

 

Buzzing with activity, the Ashram is preparing food three times a

day for 10,000 people, cooking the rice, uppama and curries, with

many of the devotees from around the world chopping vegetables, glad

to chip in their bit toward the effort. Sacks of uncooked rice are

also being delivered for distribution among the needy.

 

Amma’s ashram is also actively involved in relief operations in

Cochin (Vaippin), Trivandrum, Chennai and Pondicherry. Amma has

instructed all the Ashram branches throughout South India to help in

the relief efforts."

 

I regret to have violated my own request not to respond to attacks

on Amma, but again, I repeat, I could not let the above stand. Amma

does not turn anyone away. She has directed "Amma's Kitchens" to be

set up by devotees all over America to feed the hungry. No one is

asked for their Amma pass at the door.

Amma's only concern is to alleviate suffering in all forms. Jai Ma

~ Linda

[Guest guest]

--- kochu1tz <kochu1 wrote:

 

>

>

> Thank You linda for the post. The author of the

> doubt was Anamika

> fisher.

>

I dont understand what the name has to do with the

doubts , however

from reading Ashram updates , one can only conclude

that Amma is currently helping everyone around ,

regardless of ones believes .

Please read the Ashram updates at amritapuri.org

 

regards, Joanna P.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

>

> I wonder why the moderator does not feel it

> necessary to prevent such irresponsible message from

> being posted, as it has been observed to cause

> unwanted pain to devotees who receive them. Why

> should this group of ardent devotees of Ammachi,

> suffer due the irresponsible actions of one or two

> persons?

>

> Every member is responsible for their posts. members

> posting their messages, has the duty to check them

> for its accuracy before posting them.

>

> Best regards,

> arun

>

>

I do not censor messages or bounce anyone from this

group just because they say something politically

incorrect, apparently haven't checked their facts, or

don't toe the official Amma party line. The standard

disclaimer applies: the opinions expressed in any

particular message are those of the person who posted

them and do not necessarily reflect those of the MA

Center, the Amritapuri Math, or any other

Amma-affiliated organization. If you don't agree with

what a list member says, or feel that it causes undue

pain to you as a devotee, you have two options:

ignore the message (that's why there is a "delete"

button you can click on!), or offer a well thought-out

rebuttal without resorting to flaming.

 

On the other hand, I am quick to reject spacey New Age

postings that are almost incomprehensible to me and

have nothing to do with Amma or with Sanatan

Dharma/Hinduism/Eastern spirituality in general,

forwarded messages about missing or sick children that

are almost always hoaxes, commercial messages such as

promos for a Sai Baba site, and of course spam - I

have booted out a number of buggers who attempted to

pump out spam for dating services, lingam-enlargement

pills, and kiddie porn.

 

With any charitable donation, there will always be the

question of how much money will actually go to help

the affected people, and how much will be spent for

administrative costs. Certainly you have every right

to be concerned that donations to Amma's relief fund

will be used to repair the damage to the ashram

property, rather than to help the now-homeless people

of the nearby villages, who may or may not be Amma

devotees. But most of the clean-up of the ashram

grounds is being done pro bono by sevites, so the

amount of funds going there will be minimal.

 

One good thing about this tsunami disaster - it's all

but stopped discussion of the Kanchi Shankaracharya's

arrest!! I presume the jail where he's being held

withstood the tsunami!

 

Keval

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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