Amma as Kali

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Ammachi, nierika@a... wrote:

>

> Iswari wrote:

>

> "Amma, I've heard it said that You are Kali. Is this true?" Amma

just

> laughed and shook Her head, "no." But then, all of a sudden, She

jumped out at the

> woman, arms flying, with Her eyes bulging out and Her tongue

waggling,

> laughing the entire time!

>

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!!

 

Namaskarams to all my beloved brothers and sisters!!

 

we trust and pray that Lord Siva and His Beloved Amma are blessing

you all and protecting you always!!

 

in regard to Amma/Kali stories, i had one interesting experience

several years ago...1999 i believe (or perhaps it was 1998). (If

anyone has read this before...please just disregard...i think i may

have discussed this a few years ago on the list...but this is for

those who may not have been exposed to the stories)...

 

it was at Fort Flagler in Washingtion state...i think it might have

been the last year that we were able to be with Amma in such a

beautiful Natural evironment...not sure though..it could have been

the year earlier too.

 

on Saturday morning, i thought that i had kitchen seva at 10 AM i

think it was...so i arrived there at 10am, and found that i had been

actually assigned to 11:00 AM...so i left and headed for the Program

Hall...when Who should i spot, but Amma, (flanked by a few

swamis)...walking calmly yet determinedly from Her House across the

fields, towards the Darshan hall...so i ran back in to the kitchen to

tell everyone that Amma was coming...walking... the entire kitchen

emptied itself instantaneously of all staff, as they tumbled out to

see and greet Amma...it was an extraordinarily blissful experience to

be able to walk informally along side of Amma for a few

minutes...just staring at Her, with open mouthed longing and

astonishment...of course She basically ignored me after the greeting

salutation..."Sivane!!!"....but i felt blessed just to be able

to "catch" Her trying to anonymously head out for a walk to the

Darshan hall...probaly She was slightly annoyed at all my

antics...thinking: "Even now i cannot walk in peace, without

the "anklebiters" (as Robin calls them), tumbling about my feet,

almost tripping me and demanding this or that!! Oh for some peace!!"

 

after my seva, i went for the "morning darshan" even though it was

early afternoon...a friend (Prashant) had come back from India

somewhat earlier, and he had visited Dakshineswar Temple, to have the

Darshan of our Beloved Mother Kali.

 

He had brought me some gifts from the Dakshineswar Temple...pictures

of Kali...and one particular picture laminated under plastic, and

mounted on some kind of hard surface...Lying underneath the extremely

crackily noisy plastic bag...very stiff and noisy to unwrap....was a

lovely composite picture of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, His Darling

Wife, Sarada (also believed to be an incarnation of Kali...in fact

both of them were so seen by many devotees) and just between them

several famous images of Mother Kali with one image above the next

one in a kind of ascending pillar of Kalis...it was (and IS) lovely

and inspiring to behold...

 

i was so taken with that image that for some reason, i conceived the

idea to bring that picture up to Amma, and discuss it with Her...or

more likely get it blessed at least...(actually i suspect it was Her

idea...because She wanted to settle a few things in my head once and

for all...She is very tricky that way (but in a loving and wonderful

way...kind of like Lord Krsna as the Sweet Little Thug...)

 

anyways....there i was, sitting in the Darshan line, looking at Amma,

and listening to the music as we slowly crept towards Her...Ever

since i had entered the Darshan Hall, a European Lady had been on

stage, singing lovely Krsna Bhajans...for an hour or so it seemed...

 

as i got closer to Amma, i took the picture out of my MA Center

handbag, and thought..."oh i'd better unwrap it"...so i started

unwrapping this extremely noisy, crinkly crackily cellophane, or

whatever it was...absorbed as i was in trying to be quiet

(unsuccessfully...as the plastic would not co-operate in the

least)...suddenly my friend Sumitra who was behind me, tapped

urgently on the shoulder, and whispered urgently.."Listen to the

music!!"...she wasn't scolding me, she was just trying to get me to

listen...suddenly as i had pulled out the Kali composite picture, the

lady on stage had started singing songs for KALI!!!and the rest of

the time until AFTER i had my Darshan, the lady sang songs for the

Divine Mother alone!!

 

that was amazing!...when i got up for Amma's Darshan, i excitedly

grabbed the picture, and showed it to Amma...saying something

like..."Look here...see this?!!...This is YOU Amma..Kali!!! You are

Kali aren't you??!!!" i wasn't asking Her really, i was TELLING

Her...(such impertinence!!)

 

Amma looked at the picture for just a fraction of a second, and

putting it aside, She exclaimed LOUDLY "YAHHH KALI!!!" and with a

big smile drew me in to Her embrace...muttering over and over..."Son,

son, son, son...daaarling, daaarling son..." in that sweet

inimitable way...with Her husky ever so loving voice. Even just

thinking about that still brings tears, because then i remember just

how blessed i have been to be born in this world with Amma...to be

able to behold the Beloved with my own eyes, and to hear Her Loving

voice with my own ears...to have been blessed by Her, to have been

called "darling son" by the Devi...such a blessing is not easy to

obtain in this life...to have beheld Amma giving Her Darshan to so

many of Her Children, while sitting behind Her waiting for Her to

give me my name...to see the awe and innocent love shining out of the

eyes of every one of those "children" of Hers, as they came up closer

and closer to their Darling Amma...

 

When i was little, i used to lament that i had been born too late,

such that i had to miss the chance to be with Jesus, Who i saw at the

time, as my best friend in the whole world...Then later when i became

aware of other great Mahatmas, i used to lament then too, that i had

missed them...Yogananda, and Sri Ramakrsna...and i really did feel

that i had missed out...

 

However, after i had read Great Swan (about Sri Ramakrsna

Paramahamsa), and was reading the Gospel (His)...i was feeling this

longing SO intensely...i SO wanted to hear His loving voice, and to

listen to the Bhajans they used to sing...a friend and i were both

lamenting about how terrible it was that there were none such as He

today...

 

Within a month of that longing expression, my trusty old friend

Prashant returned from a trip to the States, with an entire

collection of ALL the music from the Sri Ramakrsna Kathamrita (the

Gospel of Sri Ramakrsna)...so although i couldn't here HIM singing

those lovely songs i COULD hear the Ramakrsna MONKS singing them.

 

the next month after that i discovered, through Amma's Grace, that

Amma was coming to Seattle, and finally my deepest longings had been

fulfilled...i COULD go and be in the presence of a Mahatma fully as

great as those i had longed for....

 

when i first met Amma, i was seeing Her immediately as

the "representative" of Divine Mother, Who had been sent by Divine

Mother Herself in answer to my two years of longing prayers, wherein

i was following Sri Yogananda's advice as expressed in that tiny but

priceless booklet, "How to Talk with God", in which He lovingly

instrucuted the aspirant to just keep on calling, no matter how long,

just to keep reminding Mother that we are HER own Little

children...Her naughty babies...and that wherever She had placed us,

there She must inevitably come to pick us up and put us in Her

Lap...and that if we should yell, and cry and never give up our

naughtiness, that She would have to come...there was NO doubt in his

teaching...Mother WOULD come if you just called to Her long enough.

 

i wasn't looking for a Guru at that time...i was looking for Divine

Mother...and i wasn't expecting Her to manifest in front of me in the

physical body...having incarnated in this time...When i actually met

Amma, She appeared to be several different mahatmas in one...

on a saturday afternoon post meditation walk to the mess hall, i was

seized with the sudden overwhelming feeling of deja vu, experiencing

that strong intuition that i had done this before...that in fact i

was revisiting a walk from some 2000 years earlier, with Jesus, when

he was going to give his darshan and teachings in the form of

the "Sermon on the Mount" which if i am not mistaken was followed by

the episode of the "Loaves and the Fishes" (at least that's how i

experienced it at the time).

 

So, in that first year, i was more inclined to view Mother

immediately as a possible incarnation of the Devi (having read some

of the books, and listening to the swamis talk)...and wanted nothing

to do with Her as Guru...(silly me!!!) During that weekend's Devi

Bhava, i kept seeing Amma

as Kali...She was so DARK...and gave off that incredibly intense yet

Loving energy...She appeared hugely vast, in Her tiny body, beyond

comprehension, awesome in the highest way......intoxicating in Her

Love....

 

Yet i did not ask Her for a mantra, even though all the other folks

who i travelled with to see Her, did ask for mantras...knowing that

taking a mantra implies accepting Amma as your spiritual Guru, i was

not interested....Only in the next year's retreat did i eventually

ask Amma if She is my Guru...in answer to which, She burst out

laughing loudly, enthusiastically, saying "Yes!Yes!Yes!Yes!"

 

and i've been lovingly caught in Her shining web of Love ever

since....thanks to Amma's Loving Grace!

 

In Amma's Divine Love

and in Her Service,

 

as ever,

your own Self,

 

visvanathan

[Guest guest]

Namah Shivaya Vivisvanathan,

 

Thanks so much for posting your sweet story.

 

>such a blessing is not easy to

>obtain in this life...to have beheld Amma giving Her Darshan to so

>many of Her Children, while sitting behind Her waiting for Her to

>give me my name...to see the awe and innocent love shining out of the

>eyes of every one of those "children" of Hers, as they came up closer

>and closer to their Darling Amma...

 

Oh, I remember the night She gave me my mantra, sitting beside Her for a

long time and

watching the beautiful faces of Mother's children as they came to Her

lap. The love,

the innocence is incredible. It is so hard to describe the purity, the

beautiful child in each

person as they came before Her - so amazing. One could truly see God

greeting God. What

a moment. Kathy Zavada was sing "Sri Ram" and Mother was wearing the

most beautiful,

brilliant sea blue sari. Talk about being swept to another plane -

 

And what a wonderful experience of your Darshan with Her - .it's like

having the experience with

you - how neat! I really enjoy your posts!

 

Jai Ma!

prasadini

 

..

 

 

 

 

>Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!!

>

>Namaskarams to all my beloved brothers and sisters!!

>

>we trust and pray that Lord Siva and His Beloved Amma are blessing

>you all and protecting you always!!

>

>in regard to Amma/Kali stories, i had one interesting experience

>several years ago...1999 i believe (or perhaps it was 1998). (If

>anyone has read this before...please just disregard...i think i may

>have discussed this a few years ago on the list...but this is for

>those who may not have been exposed to the stories)...

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jai Kali Amma, Vishwanathanji!

Thank-you so very much for sharing your sweet, sweet story! It has

great meaning for me personally, as Sri Ramakrishna Deva and

Yoganandaji are really the ones who introduced the Divine Mother to

this devotee's heart more than 30 years ago. i personally became

attracted to Ammachi because i had this inner sense that "here is a

pure emmanation of my beloved Maa Kali", who has long been my Ishta

Devata. If there is one small thing that i have learned, it is that

there is nothing but God...nothing but the Guru. She is always there

to take our hand, if we but have the purity of heart and Divine

Vision to "see" Her. O Maa, remove our blinders! Soak our eyes within

the soma of Thy Divine Nectar, that we might always see Your shining

formless form. Give us pure devotion, Maa, and please no longer

hypnotize us with Your maya. May the Universe Wake up to their Divine

Nature. May all Fear be dissolved in the Oneness of Thy Love, Maa!

Take us on Your lap and wipe away our fears with Your Love.

Jai Amma Kali!

Your sister dissolving in Maa's holy Love,

muktimaa

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- In Ammachi, "kasi_visvanath" <kasi_visvanath>

wrote:

> Ammachi, nierika@a... wrote:

> Namaskarams to all my beloved brothers and sisters!!

>

> we trust and pray that Lord Siva and His Beloved Amma are blessing

> you all and protecting you always!!

>

> in regard to Amma/Kali stories, i had one interesting experience

> several years ago...1999 i believe (or perhaps it was 1998). (If

> anyone has read this before...please just disregard...i think i may

> have discussed this a few years ago on the list...but this is for

> those who may not have been exposed to the stories)...

>

> it was at Fort Flagler in Washingtion state...i think it might have

> been the last year that we were able to be with Amma in such a

> beautiful Natural evironment...not sure though..it could have been

> the year earlier too.

>

> on Saturday morning, i thought that i had kitchen seva at 10 AM i

> think it was...so i arrived there at 10am, and found that i had

been

> actually assigned to 11:00 AM...so i left and headed for the

Program

> Hall...when Who should i spot, but Amma, (flanked by a few

> swamis)...walking calmly yet determinedly from Her House across the

> fields, towards the Darshan hall...so i ran back in to the kitchen

to

> tell everyone that Amma was coming...walking... the entire kitchen

> emptied itself instantaneously of all staff, as they tumbled out to

> see and greet Amma...it was an extraordinarily blissful experience

to

> be able to walk informally along side of Amma for a few

> minutes...just staring at Her, with open mouthed longing and

> astonishment...of course She basically ignored me after the

greeting

> salutation..."Sivane!!!"....but i felt blessed just to be able

> to "catch" Her trying to anonymously head out for a walk to the

> Darshan hall...probaly She was slightly annoyed at all my

> antics...thinking: "Even now i cannot walk in peace, without

> the "anklebiters" (as Robin calls them), tumbling about my feet,

> almost tripping me and demanding this or that!! Oh for some peace!!"

>

> after my seva, i went for the "morning darshan" even though it was

> early afternoon...a friend (Prashant) had come back from India

> somewhat earlier, and he had visited Dakshineswar Temple, to have

the

> Darshan of our Beloved Mother Kali.

>

> He had brought me some gifts from the Dakshineswar

Temple...pictures

> of Kali...and one particular picture laminated under plastic, and

> mounted on some kind of hard surface...Lying underneath the

extremely

> crackily noisy plastic bag...very stiff and noisy to unwrap....was

a

> lovely composite picture of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, His

Darling

> Wife, Sarada (also believed to be an incarnation of Kali...in fact

> both of them were so seen by many devotees) and just between them

> several famous images of Mother Kali with one image above the next

> one in a kind of ascending pillar of Kalis...it was (and IS) lovely

> and inspiring to behold...

>

> i was so taken with that image that for some reason, i conceived

the

> idea to bring that picture up to Amma, and discuss it with Her...or

> more likely get it blessed at least...(actually i suspect it was

Her

> idea...because She wanted to settle a few things in my head once

and

> for all...She is very tricky that way (but in a loving and

wonderful

> way...kind of like Lord Krsna as the Sweet Little Thug...)

>

> anyways....there i was, sitting in the Darshan line, looking at

Amma,

> and listening to the music as we slowly crept towards Her...Ever

> since i had entered the Darshan Hall, a European Lady had been on

> stage, singing lovely Krsna Bhajans...for an hour or so it seemed...

>

> as i got closer to Amma, i took the picture out of my MA Center

> handbag, and thought..."oh i'd better unwrap it"...so i started

> unwrapping this extremely noisy, crinkly crackily cellophane, or

> whatever it was...absorbed as i was in trying to be quiet

> (unsuccessfully...as the plastic would not co-operate in the

> least)...suddenly my friend Sumitra who was behind me, tapped

> urgently on the shoulder, and whispered urgently.."Listen to the

> music!!"...she wasn't scolding me, she was just trying to get me to

> listen...suddenly as i had pulled out the Kali composite picture,

the

> lady on stage had started singing songs for KALI!!!and the rest of

> the time until AFTER i had my Darshan, the lady sang songs for the

> Divine Mother alone!!

>

> that was amazing!...when i got up for Amma's Darshan, i excitedly

> grabbed the picture, and showed it to Amma...saying something

> like..."Look here...see this?!!...This is YOU Amma..Kali!!! You are

> Kali aren't you??!!!" i wasn't asking Her really, i was TELLING

> Her...(such impertinence!!)

>

> Amma looked at the picture for just a fraction of a second, and

> putting it aside, She exclaimed LOUDLY "YAHHH KALI!!!" and with a

> big smile drew me in to Her embrace...muttering over and

over..."Son,

> son, son, son...daaarling, daaarling son..." in that sweet

> inimitable way...with Her husky ever so loving voice. Even just

> thinking about that still brings tears, because then i remember

just

> how blessed i have been to be born in this world with Amma...to be

> able to behold the Beloved with my own eyes, and to hear Her Loving

> voice with my own ears...to have been blessed by Her, to have been

> called "darling son" by the Devi...such a blessing is not easy to

> obtain in this life...to have beheld Amma giving Her Darshan to so

> many of Her Children, while sitting behind Her waiting for Her to

> give me my name...to see the awe and innocent love shining out of

the

> eyes of every one of those "children" of Hers, as they came up

closer

> and closer to their Darling Amma...

>

> When i was little, i used to lament that i had been born too late,

> such that i had to miss the chance to be with Jesus, Who i saw at

the

> time, as my best friend in the whole world...Then later when i

became

> aware of other great Mahatmas, i used to lament then too, that i

had

> missed them...Yogananda, and Sri Ramakrsna...and i really did feel

> that i had missed out...

>

> However, after i had read Great Swan (about Sri Ramakrsna

> Paramahamsa), and was reading the Gospel (His)...i was feeling this

> longing SO intensely...i SO wanted to hear His loving voice, and to

> listen to the Bhajans they used to sing...a friend and i were both

> lamenting about how terrible it was that there were none such as He

> today...

>

> Within a month of that longing expression, my trusty old friend

> Prashant returned from a trip to the States, with an entire

> collection of ALL the music from the Sri Ramakrsna Kathamrita (the

> Gospel of Sri Ramakrsna)...so although i couldn't here HIM singing

> those lovely songs i COULD hear the Ramakrsna MONKS singing them.

>

> the next month after that i discovered, through Amma's Grace, that

> Amma was coming to Seattle, and finally my deepest longings had

been

> fulfilled...i COULD go and be in the presence of a Mahatma fully as

> great as those i had longed for....

>

> when i first met Amma, i was seeing Her immediately as

> the "representative" of Divine Mother, Who had been sent by Divine

> Mother Herself in answer to my two years of longing prayers,

wherein

> i was following Sri Yogananda's advice as expressed in that tiny

but

> priceless booklet, "How to Talk with God", in which He lovingly

> instrucuted the aspirant to just keep on calling, no matter how

long,

> just to keep reminding Mother that we are HER own Little

> children...Her naughty babies...and that wherever She had placed

us,

> there She must inevitably come to pick us up and put us in Her

> Lap...and that if we should yell, and cry and never give up our

> naughtiness, that She would have to come...there was NO doubt in

his

> teaching...Mother WOULD come if you just called to Her long enough.

>

> i wasn't looking for a Guru at that time...i was looking for Divine

> Mother...and i wasn't expecting Her to manifest in front of me in

the

> physical body...having incarnated in this time...When i actually

met

> Amma, She appeared to be several different mahatmas in one...

> on a saturday afternoon post meditation walk to the mess hall, i

was

> seized with the sudden overwhelming feeling of deja vu,

experiencing

> that strong intuition that i had done this before...that in fact i

> was revisiting a walk from some 2000 years earlier, with Jesus,

when

> he was going to give his darshan and teachings in the form of

> the "Sermon on the Mount" which if i am not mistaken was followed

by

> the episode of the "Loaves and the Fishes" (at least that's how i

> experienced it at the time).

>

> So, in that first year, i was more inclined to view Mother

> immediately as a possible incarnation of the Devi (having read some

> of the books, and listening to the swamis talk)...and wanted

nothing

> to do with Her as Guru...(silly me!!!) During that weekend's Devi

> Bhava, i kept seeing Amma

> as Kali...She was so DARK...and gave off that incredibly intense

yet

> Loving energy...She appeared hugely vast, in Her tiny body, beyond

> comprehension, awesome in the highest way......intoxicating in Her

> Love....

>

> Yet i did not ask Her for a mantra, even though all the other folks

> who i travelled with to see Her, did ask for mantras...knowing that

> taking a mantra implies accepting Amma as your spiritual Guru, i

was

> not interested....Only in the next year's retreat did i eventually

> ask Amma if She is my Guru...in answer to which, She burst out

> laughing loudly, enthusiastically, saying "Yes!Yes!Yes!Yes!"

>

> and i've been lovingly caught in Her shining web of Love ever

> since....thanks to Amma's Loving Grace!

>

> In Amma's Divine Love

> and in Her Service,

>

> as ever,

> your own Self,

>

> visvanathan

[Guest guest]

What a beautiful description of your history with Amma! I really appreciate

reading it. A woman who lives in the same town as me, related a story of Amma

in Kali Bhava in Santa Fe, NM, many years ago. Reportedly, the woman heard Amma

call out loudly, just when the woman happened to be away from the darshan area.

I believe she said that Amma had gone into a visable samdhi, after calling out.

At some point Amma displayed signs of being in Kali Bhava. I'll phone her for

details & if successful, can write them to this group.