Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Namah Shivayah, I am curious to know how my brothers and sisters here on the list deal when the question of Amma is posed by family members, sometimes in a not so understanding manner. I ask because #1 the holidays are coming up, and some of us may have to interact more with distant relatives than we do at other times of the year and #2 I have personally had a disheartening experience recently with a family member over the question of Amma. The family member in question was so incredibly rude and judgemental of Amma, and of course I took it personally and even began to question maintaining contact with that person any longer. So, please share your stories of how best we might explain Amma to the self-righteous Christian at the Christmas dinner table who wants to know who the Indian lady hanging from a charm around our neck is, or what the rudrashka bead is, or the mala. Last year, I received a Christmas card from an Uncle. Inside the card were several religous pamphlets. One pamphlet featured a list of every world religion on the front. Every religion had an "X" through it except for Christianity. Then, when I opened the pamphlet, I was informed that I would be going to hell if I practiced any other religion but for Christianity. I have also been questioned as if I am a brainwashed "cult member" at times. I am wondering if any others on the list have experienced judgement and ignorance within their own families because of their relationship with Amma. I personally cannot even allow my father in my own home, because if he saw my altar....it would most certainly end our relationship. Depressing? You bet. My personal problem sits in the fact that I cannot "let it slide" when someone close to me says something negative about my Mother. My immediate reaction is to act like a Mama bear whose children are being threatened. So, in the effort of turning the conversations here back to Amma....and to perhaps quell some anxiety over the holiday gatherings...I implore you all to please share your stories and perhaps offer some advice as how best to deal with these issues. Jai Ma! Ananthasree http://www.ammaschildren.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Namah Shivaya Ananthasree, I think your predicament is a common one. My way of dealing it was to shine it on with the people who I knew were going to make an issue of it - or grit my teeth and be prepared to deal with comments and questions. One thing that has become apparent is that if I wear a mala that is visible, or an Amma locket, people feel they have the right to ask questions about it. With my parents, who disapproved of just about everything, I really played it down. They knew I went off to an ashram every summer for an extended period of time. It was kind of don't ask, don't tell. They were much more upset over the fact that I was a vegetarian! But they weren't very religious, and to them "ashram" meant nothing. To some Christians, anyone who doesn't worship the way they do is doomed for hell and damnation. and they feel it is their responsibility to save everyone who needs saving. I've had Christian people tell me that people of another Christian sect aren't "true Christians". You just can't please everyone. There are some situations where I don't wear my mala, or wear something that covers it up. You aren't going to change anyone's mind. Guess you could always change the subject! As the very good Catholic who lives across the street once said to me,"a person's religion is very personal, and very private." He has been to our house many, many times, and has seen our puja, which is large, and hasn't said a word. Just some thoughts. Good Luck! Jai Ma! Prasadini Ananthasree wrote: > Namah Shivayah, > > I am curious to know how my brothers and sisters here on the list deal > when the question > of Amma is posed by family members, sometimes in a not so > understanding manner. I ask > because #1 the holidays are coming up, and some of us may have to > interact more with > distant relatives than we do at other times of the year and #2 I have > personally had a > disheartening experience recently with a family member over the > question of Amma. The > family member in question was so incredibly rude and judgemental of > Amma, and of > course I took it personally and even began to question maintaining > contact with that > person any longer. > > So, please share your stories of how best we might explain Amma to the > self-righteous > Christian at the Christmas dinner table who wants to know who the > Indian lady hanging > from a charm around our neck is, or what the rudrashka bead is, or the > mala. > > Last year, I received a Christmas card from an Uncle. Inside the card > were several religous > pamphlets. One pamphlet featured a list of every world religion on the > front. Every religion > had an "X" through it except for Christianity. Then, when I opened the > pamphlet, I was > informed that I would be going to hell if I practiced any other > religion but for Christianity. I > have also been questioned as if I am a brainwashed "cult member" at times. > > I am wondering if any others on the list have experienced judgement > and ignorance within > their own families because of their relationship with Amma. I > personally cannot even allow > my father in my own home, because if he saw my altar....it would most > certainly end our > relationship. Depressing? You bet. > > My personal problem sits in the fact that I cannot "let it slide" when > someone close to me > says something negative about my Mother. My immediate reaction is to > act like a Mama > bear whose children are being threatened. > > So, in the effort of turning the conversations here back to > Amma....and to perhaps quell > some anxiety over the holiday gatherings...I implore you all to please > share your stories > and perhaps offer some advice as how best to deal with these issues. > > Jai Ma! > > Ananthasree > > http://www.ammaschildren.com Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > ------ > > > * Visit your group "Ammachi > <Ammachi>" on the web. > > * > Ammachi > <Ammachi?subject=Un> > > * Terms of > Service <>. > > > ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Did you read that article on the list about a letter written by Archbishop Nikon of the Russian Orthodox Church calling Krishna a satanic demon and begging the mayor of Moscow to not allow the Hindus to rebuild their temple? Before becoming Hindu, I was Orthodox. It horrified me to read his hateful views of Hinduism. And I know many fundamentalist Christians are very narrow minded when it comes to Jehovah being the only God and hating "idol-worship". Since my altar takes up a whole wall of my living room, anyone who enters my house sees it. It is amazing how silent most of them are! Once in awhile someone comes in and says "hey, I am a Hindu too!" That's always a wonderful surprise. I really don't think that there is any way to present Amma to the fundamentalist Christians in a way that they can understand. When I tell my family about her, I stress her loving nature for all of humanity and all of her charitable works and leave it at that. I don't try to convince them that she is Holy or a Saint or an Avatar. I don't wear a mala outside of my temple. I don't believe Amma needs us to defend Her. She is everything and includes all and everything. I bow at Her feet. Pahari Maa On Dec 12, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Ananthasree wrote: > Namah Shivayah, > > I am curious to know how my brothers and sisters here on the list > deal when the question > of Amma is posed by family members, sometimes in a not so > understanding manner. I ask > because #1 the holidays are coming up, and some of us may have to > interact more with > distant relatives than we do at other times of the year and #2 I have > personally had a > disheartening experience recently with a family member over the > question of Amma. The > family member in question was so incredibly rude and judgemental of > Amma, and of > course I took it personally and even began to question maintaining > contact with that > person any longer. > > So, please share your stories of how best we might explain Amma to > the self-righteous > Christian at the Christmas dinner table who wants to know who the > Indian lady hanging > from a charm around our neck is, or what the rudrashka bead is, or > the mala. > > Last year, I received a Christmas card from an Uncle. Inside the card > were several religous > pamphlets. One pamphlet featured a list of every world religion on > the front. Every religion > had an "X" through it except for Christianity. Then, when I opened > the pamphlet, I was > informed that I would be going to hell if I practiced any other > religion but for Christianity. I > have also been questioned as if I am a brainwashed "cult member" at > times. > > I am wondering if any others on the list have experienced judgement > and ignorance within > their own families because of their relationship with Amma. I > personally cannot even allow > my father in my own home, because if he saw my altar....it would most > certainly end our > relationship. Depressing? You bet. > > My personal problem sits in the fact that I cannot "let it slide" > when someone close to me > says something negative about my Mother. My immediate reaction is to > act like a Mama > bear whose children are being threatened. > > So, in the effort of turning the conversations here back to > Amma....and to perhaps quell > some anxiety over the holiday gatherings...I implore you all to > please share your stories > and perhaps offer some advice as how best to deal with these issues. > > Jai Ma! > > Ananthasree > > http://www.ammaschildren.com Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > â–ª Â Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. > Â > â–ª Â > Â Ammachi > Â > â–ª Â Terms of > Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Namah Shivayah, Yes, I read the article and it is actually what reminded me how I wanted to pose this question to the list. Like you, I also stress her charitable works and sometimes make a comparison to Mother Teresa, since she is pretty much the only one the people I am talking with can relate to. Sometimes, I find that this comparison, though not terribly accurate...can help close the conversation. Though, it is getting more difficult to stick to the "charitable works" category...which is why I am curious as to others methods of dealing with the pressing questioner, especially when the questions or statements go above and beyond ignorance and border on, if not completely sit on, insulting. In Her Service, Ananthasree http://www.ammaschildren.com Ammachi, Ardis Jackson <ardis1@v...> wrote: > > Did you read that article on the list about a letter written by > Archbishop Nikon of the Russian Orthodox Church calling Krishna a > satanic demon and begging the mayor of Moscow to not allow the Hindus > to rebuild their temple? Before becoming Hindu, I was Orthodox. It > horrified me to read his hateful views of Hinduism. And I know many > fundamentalist Christians are very narrow minded when it comes to > Jehovah being the only God and hating "idol-worship". Since my altar > takes up a whole wall of my living room, anyone who enters my house > sees it. It is amazing how silent most of them are! Once in awhile > someone comes in and says "hey, I am a Hindu too!" That's always a > wonderful surprise. > > I really don't think that there is any way to present Amma to the > fundamentalist Christians in a way that they can understand. When I > tell my family about her, I stress her loving nature for all of > humanity and all of her charitable works and leave it at that. I don't > try to convince them that she is Holy or a Saint or an Avatar. I don't > wear a mala outside of my temple. I don't believe Amma needs us to > defend Her. She is everything and includes all and everything. I bow > at Her feet. > > Pahari Maa > > > On Dec 12, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Ananthasree wrote: > > > Namah Shivayah, > > > > I am curious to know how my brothers and sisters here on the list > > deal when the question > > of Amma is posed by family members, sometimes in a not so > > understanding manner. I ask > > because #1 the holidays are coming up, and some of us may have to > > interact more with > > distant relatives than we do at other times of the year and #2 I have > > personally had a > > disheartening experience recently with a family member over the > > question of Amma. The > > family member in question was so incredibly rude and judgemental of > > Amma, and of > > course I took it personally and even began to question maintaining > > contact with that > > person any longer. > > > > So, please share your stories of how best we might explain Amma to > > the self-righteous > > Christian at the Christmas dinner table who wants to know who the > > Indian lady hanging > > from a charm around our neck is, or what the rudrashka bead is, or > > the mala. > > > > Last year, I received a Christmas card from an Uncle. Inside the card > > were several religous > > pamphlets. One pamphlet featured a list of every world religion on > > the front. Every religion > > had an "X" through it except for Christianity. Then, when I opened > > the pamphlet, I was > > informed that I would be going to hell if I practiced any other > > religion but for Christianity. I > > have also been questioned as if I am a brainwashed "cult member" at > > times. > > > > I am wondering if any others on the list have experienced judgement > > and ignorance within > > their own families because of their relationship with Amma. I > > personally cannot even allow > > my father in my own home, because if he saw my altar....it would most > > certainly end our > > relationship. Depressing? You bet. > > > > My personal problem sits in the fact that I cannot "let it slide" > > when someone close to me > > says something negative about my Mother. My immediate reaction is to > > act like a Mama > > bear whose children are being threatened. > > > > So, in the effort of turning the conversations here back to > > Amma....and to perhaps quell > > some anxiety over the holiday gatherings...I implore you all to > > please share your stories > > and perhaps offer some advice as how best to deal with these issues. > > > > Jai Ma! > > > > Ananthasree > > > > http://www.ammaschildren.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > â–ª Â Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. > > Â > > â–ª Â > > Â Ammachi > > Â > > â–ª Â Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 everyone understands love,even the conservitive christains.this is AMMAs sons experience.AMMAs son was fired from his position of home director at a Christian recovery home because they caught me kissing AMMAs feet on one of HER books and chanting.they may say that it was idol worship ,or demon worship ,or whatever,however, even after AMMAs son left his position they couldnt say that he didnt love.UP UNTO THE KISSING AMMAs FEET THING ,THE PASTOR gave AMMAs son praise from the pulpit every week,for not only was AMMAS SON RUNNING THE HOME ,BUT he was also responding to letters coming from prison and going on regular prison visits.AMMAs son put his entire heart and soul into serving the brothers there and they fired him because of their religious ignorance.THE PASTOR OF THE HOME ENDED UP SEEING AMMAS FACE AND TO AMMAs son, that meant he was one step closer to liberation."just to allow someone to see AMMAs face is to bless them,"even if they dont know it.there is something taking place on a sublte level and they could be closer to liberation then you may think.AMMA IS PURE LOVE IN A FORM ..EVERYONE WHO SEES HER IS TOUCHED DEEPLY ON A SOUL LEVEL.OUR UNDERSTANDING IS LIMITED SO WE PERCIEVE NOTHING AS HAPPENING ,BUT THERE IS MORE THEN WHAT MEETS THEE EYE,MY BELOVED BROTHER.the way you let them know WHO MOTHER IS ,IS SIMPLY BY THE WAY YOU LOVE THEM.AMMAs love lives in you and operates through you.when you LOVE THEM,IT IS AMMA LOVING THEM THROUGH YOU AND IN THIS CASE THEY DO GET TO KNOW AMMA ,BECAUSE AMMA IS LOVE.SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MEET THEM IN THEIR WORLD AND DO IT SIMPLY FROM A PLACE OF PURE HEART ,WITH KNOW EXPECTATION OF THEM TO BELIEVING AS WE DO.TRUE LOVE IS ACCEPTANCE.AMMA has given her child the abilty to pray in JESUS NAME or ALLAH.IN THE ESSENCE ITS ALL THE SAME.WHEN WE LOVE AND PEOPLE EXEPERINCE THAT LOVE,THEY ARE GETTING TO KNOW AMMA,THROUGH US.namah shivaya. >Ardis Jackson <ardis1 >Ammachi >Ammachi >Re: Families, Holidays and the question of Amma >Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:41:37 -0800 > >Did you read that article on the list about a letter written by >Archbishop Nikon of the Russian Orthodox Church calling Krishna a >satanic demon and begging the mayor of Moscow to not allow the Hindus >to rebuild their temple? Before becoming Hindu, I was Orthodox. It >horrified me to read his hateful views of Hinduism. And I know many >fundamentalist Christians are very narrow minded when it comes to >Jehovah being the only God and hating "idol-worship". Since my altar >takes up a whole wall of my living room, anyone who enters my house >sees it. It is amazing how silent most of them are! Once in awhile >someone comes in and says "hey, I am a Hindu too!" That's always a >wonderful surprise. > >I really don't think that there is any way to present Amma to the >fundamentalist Christians in a way that they can understand. When I >tell my family about her, I stress her loving nature for all of >humanity and all of her charitable works and leave it at that. I don't >try to convince them that she is Holy or a Saint or an Avatar. I don't >wear a mala outside of my temple. I don't believe Amma needs us to >defend Her. She is everything and includes all and everything. I bow >at Her feet. > >Pahari Maa > > >On Dec 12, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Ananthasree wrote: > > > Namah Shivayah, > > > > I am curious to know how my brothers and sisters here on the list > > deal when the question > > of Amma is posed by family members, sometimes in a not so > > understanding manner. I ask > > because #1 the holidays are coming up, and some of us may have to > > interact more with > > distant relatives than we do at other times of the year and #2 I have > > personally had a > > disheartening experience recently with a family member over the > > question of Amma. The > > family member in question was so incredibly rude and judgemental of > > Amma, and of > > course I took it personally and even began to question maintaining > > contact with that > > person any longer. > > > > So, please share your stories of how best we might explain Amma to > > the self-righteous > > Christian at the Christmas dinner table who wants to know who the > > Indian lady hanging > > from a charm around our neck is, or what the rudrashka bead is, or > > the mala. > > > > Last year, I received a Christmas card from an Uncle. Inside the card > > were several religous > > pamphlets. One pamphlet featured a list of every world religion on > > the front. Every religion > > had an "X" through it except for Christianity. Then, when I opened > > the pamphlet, I was > > informed that I would be going to hell if I practiced any other > > religion but for Christianity. I > > have also been questioned as if I am a brainwashed "cult member" at > > times. > > > > I am wondering if any others on the list have experienced judgement > > and ignorance within > > their own families because of their relationship with Amma. I > > personally cannot even allow > > my father in my own home, because if he saw my altar....it would most > > certainly end our > > relationship. Depressing? You bet. > > > > My personal problem sits in the fact that I cannot "let it slide" > > when someone close to me > > says something negative about my Mother. My immediate reaction is to > > act like a Mama > > bear whose children are being threatened. > > > > So, in the effort of turning the conversations here back to > > Amma....and to perhaps quell > > some anxiety over the holiday gatherings...I implore you all to > > please share your stories > > and perhaps offer some advice as how best to deal with these issues. > > > > Jai Ma! > > > > Ananthasree > > > > http://www.ammaschildren.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > â–ª Â Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. > > Â > > â–ª Â > > Â Ammachi > > Â > > â–ª Â Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 This is so beautiful, brother Temba. It is all about Love. Last night as my brother Stan Williams was preparing to be executed, I spent several hours chanting and sending out unconditional Love to him. As I did so I felt Amma holding me in Her Arms and sending Her Love through me to my brother. She smiled and said "of course I love him. He is my darling son.". On Dec 13, 2005, at 10:51 AM, temba spirits wrote: > everyone understands love,even the conservitive christains.this is > AMMAs > sons experience.AMMAs son was fired from his position of home director > at a > Christian recovery home because they caught me kissing AMMAs feet on > one of > HER books and chanting.they may say that it was idol worship ,or demon > worship ,or whatever,however, even after AMMAs son left his position > they > couldnt say that he didnt love.UP UNTO THE KISSING AMMAs FEET THING > ,THE > PASTOR gave AMMAs son praise from the pulpit every week,for not only > was > AMMAS SON RUNNING THE HOME ,BUT he was also responding to letters > coming > from prison and going on regular prison visits.AMMAs son put his entire > heart and soul into serving the brothers there and they fired him > because of > their religious ignorance.THE PASTOR OF THE HOME ENDED UP SEEING AMMAS > FACE > AND TO AMMAs son, that meant he was one step closer to > liberation."just to > allow someone to see AMMAs face is to bless them,"even if they dont > know > it.there is something taking place on a sublte level and they could be > closer to liberation then you may think.AMMA IS PURE LOVE IN A FORM > .EVERYONE WHO SEES HER IS TOUCHED DEEPLY ON A SOUL LEVEL.OUR > UNDERSTANDING > IS LIMITED SO WE PERCIEVE NOTHING AS HAPPENING ,BUT THERE IS MORE THEN > WHAT > MEETS THEE EYE,MY BELOVED BROTHER.the way you let them know WHO MOTHER > IS > ,IS SIMPLY BY THE WAY YOU LOVE THEM.AMMAs love lives in you and > operates > through you.when you LOVE THEM,IT IS AMMA LOVING THEM THROUGH YOU AND > IN > THIS CASE THEY DO GET TO KNOW AMMA ,BECAUSE AMMA IS LOVE.SOMETIMES WE > HAVE > TO MEET THEM IN THEIR WORLD AND DO IT SIMPLY FROM A PLACE OF PURE HEART > ,WITH KNOW EXPECTATION OF THEM TO BELIEVING AS WE DO.TRUE LOVE IS > ACCEPTANCE.AMMA has given her child the abilty to pray in JESUS NAME or > ALLAH.IN THE ESSENCE ITS ALL THE SAME.WHEN WE LOVE AND PEOPLE > EXEPERINCE > THAT LOVE,THEY ARE GETTING TO KNOW AMMA,THROUGH US.namah shivaya. > > >> Ardis Jackson <ardis1 >> Ammachi >> Ammachi >> Re: Families, Holidays and the question of Amma >> Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:41:37 -0800 >> >> Did you read that article on the list about a letter written by >> Archbishop Nikon of the Russian Orthodox Church calling Krishna a >> satanic demon and begging the mayor of Moscow to not allow the Hindus >> to rebuild their temple? Before becoming Hindu, I was Orthodox. It >> horrified me to read his hateful views of Hinduism. And I know many >> fundamentalist Christians are very narrow minded when it comes to >> Jehovah being the only God and hating "idol-worship". Since my altar >> takes up a whole wall of my living room, anyone who enters my house >> sees it. It is amazing how silent most of them are! Once in awhile >> someone comes in and says "hey, I am a Hindu too!" That's always a >> wonderful surprise. >> >> I really don't think that there is any way to present Amma to the >> fundamentalist Christians in a way that they can understand. When I >> tell my family about her, I stress her loving nature for all of >> humanity and all of her charitable works and leave it at that. I >> don't >> try to convince them that she is Holy or a Saint or an Avatar. I >> don't >> wear a mala outside of my temple. I don't believe Amma needs us to >> defend Her. She is everything and includes all and everything. I bow >> at Her feet. >> >> Pahari Maa >> >> >> On Dec 12, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Ananthasree wrote: >> >>> Namah Shivayah, >>> >>> I am curious to know how my brothers and sisters here on the list >>> deal when the question >>> of Amma is posed by family members, sometimes in a not so >>> understanding manner. I ask >>> because #1 the holidays are coming up, and some of us may have to >>> interact more with >>> distant relatives than we do at other times of the year and #2 I >>> have >>> personally had a >>> disheartening experience recently with a family member over the >>> question of Amma. The >>> family member in question was so incredibly rude and judgemental of >>> Amma, and of >>> course I took it personally and even began to question maintaining >>> contact with that >>> person any longer. >>> >>> So, please share your stories of how best we might explain Amma to >>> the self-righteous >>> Christian at the Christmas dinner table who wants to know who the >>> Indian lady hanging >>> from a charm around our neck is, or what the rudrashka bead is, or >>> the mala. >>> >>> Last year, I received a Christmas card from an Uncle. Inside the >>> card >>> were several religous >>> pamphlets. One pamphlet featured a list of every world religion on >>> the front. Every religion >>> had an "X" through it except for Christianity. Then, when I opened >>> the pamphlet, I was >>> informed that I would be going to hell if I practiced any other >>> religion but for Christianity. I >>> have also been questioned as if I am a brainwashed "cult member" at >>> times. >>> >>> I am wondering if any others on the list have experienced judgement >>> and ignorance within >>> their own families because of their relationship with Amma. I >>> personally cannot even allow >>> my father in my own home, because if he saw my altar....it would >>> most >>> certainly end our >>> relationship. Depressing? You bet. >>> >>> My personal problem sits in the fact that I cannot "let it slide" >>> when someone close to me >>> says something negative about my Mother. My immediate reaction is to >>> act like a Mama >>> bear whose children are being threatened. >>> >>> So, in the effort of turning the conversations here back to >>> Amma....and to perhaps quell >>> some anxiety over the holiday gatherings...I implore you all to >>> please share your stories >>> and perhaps offer some advice as how best to deal with these issues. >>> >>> Jai Ma! >>> >>> Ananthasree >>> >>> http://www.ammaschildren.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> â–ª Â Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. >>> Â >>> â–ª Â >>> Â Ammachi >>> Â >>> â–ª Â Terms of >>> Service. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > _______________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Namah Shivaya, Ananthasree Instead of trying to convice, let your bliss shine through. For me it means just being happy and enjoying my time with whomever I am with. There is nothing quite as wonderful as joy and laughter with others. Over the holidays, keep your spiritual practices as private as possible. Since they are not supportive, tell them you are going to nap if you are going to meditate for instance. It should not be an open book for everyone to dismantle and disrespect. If you need to remove a mala or the bead, then I would also do that. It's not necessary to defend nor to possibly invite their misunderstandings. As some have already posted, religion and our spiritual beliefs and practices are private. I would simply change the subject if Amma comes up. You might mention Her charitable accomplishments and leave it at that. Family knows how to push our buttons. Our parents sewed them on! (not my original saying but I think it might be Roseanne Barr's). At any rate, the guru calls when the disciple is ready. Christ said to meditate and pray in private in pointing out the Pharisees who wanted everyone to see how "holy" they were. And he also said, "You will know them by their actions" in referring to false prophets. Amma's actions speak for themselves. I hope this helps, In devotion to Amma, Adriane In Ammachi, "Ananthasree" <ananthasree@m...> wrote: > > Namah Shivayah, > > I am curious to know how my brothers and sisters here on the list deal when the question > of Amma is posed by family members, sometimes in a not so understanding manner. I ask > because #1 the holidays are coming up, and some of us may have to interact more with > distant relatives than we do at other times of the year and #2 I have personally had a > disheartening experience recently with a family member over the question of Amma. The > family member in question was so incredibly rude and judgemental of Amma, and of > course I took it personally and even began to question maintaining contact with that > person any longer. > > So, please share your stories of how best we might explain Amma to the self-righteous > Christian at the Christmas dinner table who wants to know who the Indian lady hanging > from a charm around our neck is, or what the rudrashka bead is, or the mala. > > Last year, I received a Christmas card from an Uncle. Inside the card were several religous > pamphlets. One pamphlet featured a list of every world religion on the front. Every religion > had an "X" through it except for Christianity. Then, when I opened the pamphlet, I was > informed that I would be going to hell if I practiced any other religion but for Christianity. I > have also been questioned as if I am a brainwashed "cult member" at times. > > I am wondering if any others on the list have experienced judgement and ignorance within > their own families because of their relationship with Amma. I personally cannot even allow > my father in my own home, because if he saw my altar....it would most certainly end our > relationship. Depressing? You bet. > > My personal problem sits in the fact that I cannot "let it slide" when someone close to me > says something negative about my Mother. My immediate reaction is to act like a Mama > bear whose children are being threatened. > > So, in the effort of turning the conversations here back to Amma....and to perhaps quell > some anxiety over the holiday gatherings...I implore you all to please share your stories > and perhaps offer some advice as how best to deal with these issues. > > Jai Ma! > > Ananthasree > > http://www.ammaschildren.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 As Ram Dass said, if you think you're enlightened, go spend a week with your parents. on 12/13/05 3:57 PM, Adriane at a1driane wrote: > Namah Shivaya, Ananthasree > > Instead of trying to convice, let your bliss shine through. For me it > means just being happy and enjoying my time with whomever I am with. > There is nothing quite as wonderful as joy and laughter with others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 This is a good one! LOL....just gotta think like a duck in the rain and let it all roll off....let the good times roll...! When you get mud, make mudpies. Ammachi, Rick Archer <rick@s...> wrote: > > As Ram Dass said, if you think you're enlightened, go spend a week with your > parents. > > > on 12/13/05 3:57 PM, Adriane at a1driane@s... wrote: > > > Namah Shivaya, Ananthasree > > > > Instead of trying to convice, let your bliss shine through. For me it > > means just being happy and enjoying my time with whomever I am with. > > There is nothing quite as wonderful as joy and laughter with others. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 on 12/13/05 4:15 PM, Adriane at a1driane wrote: > This is a good one! LOL....just gotta think like a duck in the rain and > let it all roll off....let the good times roll...! When you get mud, > make mudpies. One trick I use is to pretend that I'm watching a movie. Sometimes movies are scary, sometimes sad. Sometimes people in them get angry, but after all, it's only a movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I always liked that one! It is so true. Biological families know just how to push each other's buttons. On Dec 13, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > As Ram Dass said, if you think you're enlightened, go spend a week > with your > parents. > > > on 12/13/05 3:57 PM, Adriane at a1driane wrote: > > > Namah Shivaya, Ananthasree > > > > Instead of trying to convice, let your bliss shine through. For me > it > > means just being happy and enjoying my time with whomever I am with. > > There is nothing quite as wonderful as joy and laughter with others. > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > â–ª Â Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. > Â > â–ª Â > Â Ammachi > Â > â–ª Â Terms of > Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 greetings my beautiful family.this is AMMAs sons experience.if you stick to the spiritual principles of love and undersatnding and not the dogma,then you will be fine.knowing AMMA and that example MAKLES US responsible to live in HER example as much as possible.just keep talking about love.CHRIST SAID THAT THE GREATEST COMMANDMENT IS TO LOVE.TO LOVE GOD AND TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS AS WE LOVE OURSELVES.IF YOU STICK WITH THAT THEN YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO ARGUE.BE MORE CONCRENED WITH WHAT THEY BELIEVE AND UNDERSTAND.THEY GET TO KNOW AMMA THROUGH YOUR PATIENCE AND TOLERANCE TOWARDS THEM.OUR TRUE STRENGH LIES IN OUR HUMILTY.THE COURAGE TO CONTINUE TO LOVE INSPITE OF .WHEN SOMEONE ATTACKS YOU AND YOUR BELIEFS,THEY ARE CRYING OUT FOR LOVE .FOR THEM WE ARE THREATENING EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE KNOWN TO BE TRUE.THEY ARE EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED AND IT BRINGS UP A LOT OF FEAR TO BE INTRODUCED TO SOMETHING ELSE.WHEN THEY ATTACK US IT IS ONLY DUE TO FEAR.ITS NOT PERSONAL.IF WE UNDERSTAND THAT AND STAY IN THAT AWARENESS WE WILL BE OKAY. AMMA SAYS.WHEN SOMEONE ANGERS YOU,SEE THEM AS AMMA.IF THAT DOESNT WORK THEN SEE THEM AS BEING SICK SPIRITUALLY.THAT IS HOW AMMA SAYS TO DEAL WITH IT.SHE ALSO SAYS THAT IF IT GETS TO THICK THEN TO TAKE A WALK. a wise elder told AMMAs son that the thing that ticks you off is your greatest teacher. WHATEVER YOU DO JUST KEEP THE FOCUS ON YOU AND DONT JUDGE WHAT THEY DO OR SAY AS WRONG OR RIGHT.JUST KEEP REMEMBERING THAT AMMA WITHIN WANTS OUR EGOS TO MOVE OUT OF THE WAY SO SHE CAN GIVE LOVE THROUGH US TO WHOEVER IS IN FRONT OF US.YOUR LOVE FOR THEM WILL SHOW THEM WHO AMMA IS AND WHO CHRIST IS.YOU AND WE ALL HAVE THIS DIVINITY WITHIN US. AMMAS son bows to AMMA WITHIN YOU. >"Adriane" <a1driane >Ammachi >Ammachi > Re: Families, Holidays and the question of Amma >Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:57:14 -0000 > >Namah Shivaya, Ananthasree > >Instead of trying to convice, let your bliss shine through. For me it >means just being happy and enjoying my time with whomever I am with. >There is nothing quite as wonderful as joy and laughter with others. > >Over the holidays, keep your spiritual practices as private as >possible. Since they are not supportive, tell them you are going to >nap if you are going to meditate for instance. It should not be an >open book for everyone to dismantle and disrespect. If you need to >remove a mala or the bead, then I would also do that. It's not >necessary to defend nor to possibly invite their misunderstandings. > >As some have already posted, religion and our spiritual beliefs and >practices are private. I would simply change the subject if Amma >comes up. You might mention Her charitable accomplishments and leave >it at that. Family knows how to push our buttons. Our parents sewed >them on! (not my original saying but I think it might be Roseanne >Barr's). At any rate, the guru calls when the disciple is ready. > >Christ said to meditate and pray in private in pointing out the >Pharisees who wanted everyone to see how "holy" they were. And he >also said, "You will know them by their actions" in referring to >false prophets. Amma's actions speak for themselves. > >I hope this helps, > >In devotion to Amma, > >Adriane > > > >In Ammachi, "Ananthasree" <ananthasree@m...> wrote: > > > > Namah Shivayah, > > > > I am curious to know how my brothers and sisters here on the list >deal when the question > > of Amma is posed by family members, sometimes in a not so >understanding manner. I ask > > because #1 the holidays are coming up, and some of us may have to >interact more with > > distant relatives than we do at other times of the year and #2 I >have personally had a > > disheartening experience recently with a family member over the >question of Amma. The > > family member in question was so incredibly rude and judgemental of >Amma, and of > > course I took it personally and even began to question maintaining >contact with that > > person any longer. > > > > So, please share your stories of how best we might explain Amma to >the self-righteous > > Christian at the Christmas dinner table who wants to know who the >Indian lady hanging > > from a charm around our neck is, or what the rudrashka bead is, or >the mala. > > > > Last year, I received a Christmas card from an Uncle. Inside the >card were several religous > > pamphlets. One pamphlet featured a list of every world religion on >the front. Every religion > > had an "X" through it except for Christianity. Then, when I opened >the pamphlet, I was > > informed that I would be going to hell if I practiced any other >religion but for Christianity. I > > have also been questioned as if I am a brainwashed "cult member" at >times. > > > > I am wondering if any others on the list have experienced judgement >and ignorance within > > their own families because of their relationship with Amma. I >personally cannot even allow > > my father in my own home, because if he saw my altar....it would >most certainly end our > > relationship. Depressing? You bet. > > > > My personal problem sits in the fact that I cannot "let it slide" >when someone close to me > > says something negative about my Mother. My immediate reaction is >to act like a Mama > > bear whose children are being threatened. > > > > So, in the effort of turning the conversations here back to >Amma....and to perhaps quell > > some anxiety over the holiday gatherings...I implore you all to >please share your stories > > and perhaps offer some advice as how best to deal with these >issues. > > > > Jai Ma! > > > > Ananthasree > > > > http://www.ammaschildren.com > > > > > > > _______________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Jai MAA! Ardis Jackson wrote: > This is so beautiful, brother Temba. It is all about Love. Last night > as my brother Stan Williams was preparing to be executed, I spent > several hours chanting and sending out unconditional Love to him. As I > did so I felt Amma holding me in Her Arms and sending Her Love through > me to my brother. She smiled and said "of course I love him. He is my > darling son.". -- "Naan Amme Snehikkunnu" Be Love, Egyirba http://www.egyirba.net -=-=- .... Even though one may come in contact with a Guru, he will be accepted as a disciple only if he is fit. Without Guru's grace, one cannot know the Guru. One who is really in search of the Truth will have humility and simplicity. The Guru's grace will be showered only on such a person. A person full of ego cannot have access to the Guru. -- Mata Amritanandamayi, For My Children, San Ramon, CA: Mata Amritanandamayi Center, 1994, pp. 18-25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 LOL! Amen to that! Rick Archer wrote: > As Ram Dass said, if you think you're enlightened, go spend a week with your > parents. -- "Naan Amme Snehikkunnu" Be Love, Egyirba http://www.egyirba.net -=-=- .... Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free; Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the ultimate. --Chuang Tsu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Ha! I remembered this Ram Das quote early today, and was glad to see you posted it here. Great quote! In her service, Ananthasree http://www.ammaschildren.com Ammachi, Rick Archer <rick@s...> wrote: > > As Ram Dass said, if you think you're enlightened, go spend a week with your > parents. > > > on 12/13/05 3:57 PM, Adriane at a1driane@s... wrote: > > > Namah Shivaya, Ananthasree > > > > Instead of trying to convice, let your bliss shine through. For me it > > means just being happy and enjoying my time with whomever I am with. > > There is nothing quite as wonderful as joy and laughter with others. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 yes my beloved brother.HE IS AMMAS DARLING SON.sharing this with your brother has opened his heart even more.contained in your word id the ESSENCE OF IT ALL.AMMAs son has fallin in love with this testimony that you ,one of HER DARLING CHILDREN HAS SHARED.AMMAa son bows to this.OM NAMAH AMMAYA >Ardis Jackson <ardis1 >Ammachi >Ammachi >Re: Families, Holidays and the question of Amma >Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:51:40 -0800 > >This is so beautiful, brother Temba. It is all about Love. Last night >as my brother Stan Williams was preparing to be executed, I spent >several hours chanting and sending out unconditional Love to him. As I >did so I felt Amma holding me in Her Arms and sending Her Love through >me to my brother. She smiled and said "of course I love him. He is my >darling son.". > > >On Dec 13, 2005, at 10:51 AM, temba spirits wrote: > > > everyone understands love,even the conservitive christains.this is > > AMMAs > > sons experience.AMMAs son was fired from his position of home director > > at a > > Christian recovery home because they caught me kissing AMMAs feet on > > one of > > HER books and chanting.they may say that it was idol worship ,or demon > > worship ,or whatever,however, even after AMMAs son left his position > > they > > couldnt say that he didnt love.UP UNTO THE KISSING AMMAs FEET THING > > ,THE > > PASTOR gave AMMAs son praise from the pulpit every week,for not only > > was > > AMMAS SON RUNNING THE HOME ,BUT he was also responding to letters > > coming > > from prison and going on regular prison visits.AMMAs son put his entire > > heart and soul into serving the brothers there and they fired him > > because of > > their religious ignorance.THE PASTOR OF THE HOME ENDED UP SEEING AMMAS > > FACE > > AND TO AMMAs son, that meant he was one step closer to > > liberation."just to > > allow someone to see AMMAs face is to bless them,"even if they dont > > know > > it.there is something taking place on a sublte level and they could be > > closer to liberation then you may think.AMMA IS PURE LOVE IN A FORM > > .EVERYONE WHO SEES HER IS TOUCHED DEEPLY ON A SOUL LEVEL.OUR > > UNDERSTANDING > > IS LIMITED SO WE PERCIEVE NOTHING AS HAPPENING ,BUT THERE IS MORE THEN > > WHAT > > MEETS THEE EYE,MY BELOVED BROTHER.the way you let them know WHO MOTHER > > IS > > ,IS SIMPLY BY THE WAY YOU LOVE THEM.AMMAs love lives in you and > > operates > > through you.when you LOVE THEM,IT IS AMMA LOVING THEM THROUGH YOU AND > > IN > > THIS CASE THEY DO GET TO KNOW AMMA ,BECAUSE AMMA IS LOVE.SOMETIMES WE > > HAVE > > TO MEET THEM IN THEIR WORLD AND DO IT SIMPLY FROM A PLACE OF PURE HEART > > ,WITH KNOW EXPECTATION OF THEM TO BELIEVING AS WE DO.TRUE LOVE IS > > ACCEPTANCE.AMMA has given her child the abilty to pray in JESUS NAME or > > ALLAH.IN THE ESSENCE ITS ALL THE SAME.WHEN WE LOVE AND PEOPLE > > EXEPERINCE > > THAT LOVE,THEY ARE GETTING TO KNOW AMMA,THROUGH US.namah shivaya. > > > > > >> Ardis Jackson <ardis1 > >> Ammachi > >> Ammachi > >> Re: Families, Holidays and the question of Amma > >> Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:41:37 -0800 > >> > >> Did you read that article on the list about a letter written by > >> Archbishop Nikon of the Russian Orthodox Church calling Krishna a > >> satanic demon and begging the mayor of Moscow to not allow the Hindus > >> to rebuild their temple? Before becoming Hindu, I was Orthodox. It > >> horrified me to read his hateful views of Hinduism. And I know many > >> fundamentalist Christians are very narrow minded when it comes to > >> Jehovah being the only God and hating "idol-worship". Since my altar > >> takes up a whole wall of my living room, anyone who enters my house > >> sees it. It is amazing how silent most of them are! Once in awhile > >> someone comes in and says "hey, I am a Hindu too!" That's always a > >> wonderful surprise. > >> > >> I really don't think that there is any way to present Amma to the > >> fundamentalist Christians in a way that they can understand. When I > >> tell my family about her, I stress her loving nature for all of > >> humanity and all of her charitable works and leave it at that. I > >> don't > >> try to convince them that she is Holy or a Saint or an Avatar. I > >> don't > >> wear a mala outside of my temple. I don't believe Amma needs us to > >> defend Her. She is everything and includes all and everything. I bow > >> at Her feet. > >> > >> Pahari Maa > >> > >> > >> On Dec 12, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Ananthasree wrote: > >> > >>> Namah Shivayah, > >>> > >>> I am curious to know how my brothers and sisters here on the list > >>> deal when the question > >>> of Amma is posed by family members, sometimes in a not so > >>> understanding manner. I ask > >>> because #1 the holidays are coming up, and some of us may have to > >>> interact more with > >>> distant relatives than we do at other times of the year and #2 I > >>> have > >>> personally had a > >>> disheartening experience recently with a family member over the > >>> question of Amma. The > >>> family member in question was so incredibly rude and judgemental of > >>> Amma, and of > >>> course I took it personally and even began to question maintaining > >>> contact with that > >>> person any longer. > >>> > >>> So, please share your stories of how best we might explain Amma to > >>> the self-righteous > >>> Christian at the Christmas dinner table who wants to know who the > >>> Indian lady hanging > >>> from a charm around our neck is, or what the rudrashka bead is, or > >>> the mala. > >>> > >>> Last year, I received a Christmas card from an Uncle. Inside the > >>> card > >>> were several religous > >>> pamphlets. One pamphlet featured a list of every world religion on > >>> the front. Every religion > >>> had an "X" through it except for Christianity. Then, when I opened > >>> the pamphlet, I was > >>> informed that I would be going to hell if I practiced any other > >>> religion but for Christianity. I > >>> have also been questioned as if I am a brainwashed "cult member" at > >>> times. > >>> > >>> I am wondering if any others on the list have experienced judgement > >>> and ignorance within > >>> their own families because of their relationship with Amma. I > >>> personally cannot even allow > >>> my father in my own home, because if he saw my altar....it would > >>> most > >>> certainly end our > >>> relationship. Depressing? You bet. > >>> > >>> My personal problem sits in the fact that I cannot "let it slide" > >>> when someone close to me > >>> says something negative about my Mother. My immediate reaction is to > >>> act like a Mama > >>> bear whose children are being threatened. > >>> > >>> So, in the effort of turning the conversations here back to > >>> Amma....and to perhaps quell > >>> some anxiety over the holiday gatherings...I implore you all to > >>> please share your stories > >>> and perhaps offer some advice as how best to deal with these issues. > >>> > >>> Jai Ma! > >>> > >>> Ananthasree > >>> > >>> http://www.ammaschildren.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> â–ª Â Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. > >>> Â > >>> â–ª Â > >>> Â Ammachi > >>> Â > >>> â–ª Â Terms of > >>> Service. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > _______________ > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ On the road to retirement? 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Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Divine Love is why we are here. Your sister, Pahari Maa On Dec 13, 2005, at 4:32 PM, temba spirits wrote: > yes my beloved brother.HE IS AMMAS DARLING SON.sharing this with your > brother has opened his heart even more.contained in your word id the > ESSENCE > OF IT ALL.AMMAs son has fallin in love with this testimony that you > ,one of > HER DARLING CHILDREN HAS SHARED.AMMAa son bows to this.OM NAMAH AMMAYA > > >> Ardis Jackson <ardis1 >> Ammachi >> Ammachi >> Re: Families, Holidays and the question of Amma >> Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:51:40 -0800 >> >> This is so beautiful, brother Temba. It is all about Love. Last >> night >> as my brother Stan Williams was preparing to be executed, I spent >> several hours chanting and sending out unconditional Love to him. As >> I >> did so I felt Amma holding me in Her Arms and sending Her Love through >> me to my brother. She smiled and said "of course I love him. He is >> my >> darling son.". >> >> >> On Dec 13, 2005, at 10:51 AM, temba spirits wrote: >> >>> everyone understands love,even the conservitive christains.this is >>> AMMAs >>> sons experience.AMMAs son was fired from his position of home >>> director >>> at a >>> Christian recovery home because they caught me kissing AMMAs feet on >>> one of >>> HER books and chanting.they may say that it was idol worship ,or >>> demon >>> worship ,or whatever,however, even after AMMAs son left his position >>> they >>> couldnt say that he didnt love.UP UNTO THE KISSING AMMAs FEET THING >>> ,THE >>> PASTOR gave AMMAs son praise from the pulpit every week,for not only >>> was >>> AMMAS SON RUNNING THE HOME ,BUT he was also responding to letters >>> coming >>> from prison and going on regular prison visits.AMMAs son put his >>> entire >>> heart and soul into serving the brothers there and they fired him >>> because of >>> their religious ignorance.THE PASTOR OF THE HOME ENDED UP SEEING >>> AMMAS >>> FACE >>> AND TO AMMAs son, that meant he was one step closer to >>> liberation."just to >>> allow someone to see AMMAs face is to bless them,"even if they dont >>> know >>> it.there is something taking place on a sublte level and they could >>> be >>> closer to liberation then you may think.AMMA IS PURE LOVE IN A FORM >>> .EVERYONE WHO SEES HER IS TOUCHED DEEPLY ON A SOUL LEVEL.OUR >>> UNDERSTANDING >>> IS LIMITED SO WE PERCIEVE NOTHING AS HAPPENING ,BUT THERE IS MORE >>> THEN >>> WHAT >>> MEETS THEE EYE,MY BELOVED BROTHER.the way you let them know WHO >>> MOTHER >>> IS >>> ,IS SIMPLY BY THE WAY YOU LOVE THEM.AMMAs love lives in you and >>> operates >>> through you.when you LOVE THEM,IT IS AMMA LOVING THEM THROUGH YOU AND >>> IN >>> THIS CASE THEY DO GET TO KNOW AMMA ,BECAUSE AMMA IS LOVE.SOMETIMES WE >>> HAVE >>> TO MEET THEM IN THEIR WORLD AND DO IT SIMPLY FROM A PLACE OF PURE >>> HEART >>> ,WITH KNOW EXPECTATION OF THEM TO BELIEVING AS WE DO.TRUE LOVE IS >>> ACCEPTANCE.AMMA has given her child the abilty to pray in JESUS NAME >>> or >>> ALLAH.IN THE ESSENCE ITS ALL THE SAME.WHEN WE LOVE AND PEOPLE >>> EXEPERINCE >>> THAT LOVE,THEY ARE GETTING TO KNOW AMMA,THROUGH US.namah shivaya. >>> >>> >>>> Ardis Jackson <ardis1 >>>> Ammachi >>>> Ammachi >>>> Re: Families, Holidays and the question of Amma >>>> Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:41:37 -0800 >>>> >>>> Did you read that article on the list about a letter written by >>>> Archbishop Nikon of the Russian Orthodox Church calling Krishna a >>>> satanic demon and begging the mayor of Moscow to not allow the >>>> Hindus >>>> to rebuild their temple? Before becoming Hindu, I was Orthodox. It >>>> horrified me to read his hateful views of Hinduism. And I know many >>>> fundamentalist Christians are very narrow minded when it comes to >>>> Jehovah being the only God and hating "idol-worship". Since my >>>> altar >>>> takes up a whole wall of my living room, anyone who enters my house >>>> sees it. It is amazing how silent most of them are! Once in awhile >>>> someone comes in and says "hey, I am a Hindu too!" That's always a >>>> wonderful surprise. >>>> >>>> I really don't think that there is any way to present Amma to the >>>> fundamentalist Christians in a way that they can understand. When I >>>> tell my family about her, I stress her loving nature for all of >>>> humanity and all of her charitable works and leave it at that. I >>>> don't >>>> try to convince them that she is Holy or a Saint or an Avatar. I >>>> don't >>>> wear a mala outside of my temple. I don't believe Amma needs us to >>>> defend Her. She is everything and includes all and everything. I >>>> bow >>>> at Her feet. >>>> >>>> Pahari Maa >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 12, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Ananthasree wrote: >>>> >>>>> Namah Shivayah, >>>>> >>>>> I am curious to know how my brothers and sisters here on the list >>>>> deal when the question >>>>> of Amma is posed by family members, sometimes in a not so >>>>> understanding manner. I ask >>>>> because #1 the holidays are coming up, and some of us may have to >>>>> interact more with >>>>> distant relatives than we do at other times of the year and #2 I >>>>> have >>>>> personally had a >>>>> disheartening experience recently with a family member over the >>>>> question of Amma. The >>>>> family member in question was so incredibly rude and judgemental >>>>> of >>>>> Amma, and of >>>>> course I took it personally and even began to question maintaining >>>>> contact with that >>>>> person any longer. >>>>> >>>>> So, please share your stories of how best we might explain Amma to >>>>> the self-righteous >>>>> Christian at the Christmas dinner table who wants to know who the >>>>> Indian lady hanging >>>>> from a charm around our neck is, or what the rudrashka bead is, or >>>>> the mala. >>>>> >>>>> Last year, I received a Christmas card from an Uncle. Inside the >>>>> card >>>>> were several religous >>>>> pamphlets. One pamphlet featured a list of every world religion on >>>>> the front. Every religion >>>>> had an "X" through it except for Christianity. Then, when I opened >>>>> the pamphlet, I was >>>>> informed that I would be going to hell if I practiced any other >>>>> religion but for Christianity. I >>>>> have also been questioned as if I am a brainwashed "cult member" >>>>> at >>>>> times. >>>>> >>>>> I am wondering if any others on the list have experienced >>>>> judgement >>>>> and ignorance within >>>>> their own families because of their relationship with Amma. I >>>>> personally cannot even allow >>>>> my father in my own home, because if he saw my altar....it would >>>>> most >>>>> certainly end our >>>>> relationship. Depressing? You bet. >>>>> >>>>> My personal problem sits in the fact that I cannot "let it slide" >>>>> when someone close to me >>>>> says something negative about my Mother. My immediate reaction is >>>>> to >>>>> act like a Mama >>>>> bear whose children are being threatened. >>>>> >>>>> So, in the effort of turning the conversations here back to >>>>> Amma....and to perhaps quell >>>>> some anxiety over the holiday gatherings...I implore you all to >>>>> please share your stories >>>>> and perhaps offer some advice as how best to deal with these >>>>> issues. >>>>> >>>>> Jai Ma! >>>>> >>>>> Ananthasree >>>>> >>>>> http://www.ammaschildren.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> â–ª Â Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. >>>>> Â >>>>> â–ª Â >>>>> Â Ammachi >>>>> Â >>>>> â–ª Â Terms of >>>>> Service. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________ >>> FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! >>> http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! >>> Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > _______________ > On the road to retirement? 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Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 YOU ARE DIVINE LOVE. >Ardis Jackson <ardis1 >Ammachi >Ammachi >Re: Families, Holidays and the question of Amma >Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:31:45 -0800 > >Divine Love is why we are here. >Your sister, >Pahari Maa > > >On Dec 13, 2005, at 4:32 PM, temba spirits wrote: > > > yes my beloved brother.HE IS AMMAS DARLING SON.sharing this with your > > brother has opened his heart even more.contained in your word id the > > ESSENCE > > OF IT ALL.AMMAs son has fallin in love with this testimony that you > > ,one of > > HER DARLING CHILDREN HAS SHARED.AMMAa son bows to this.OM NAMAH AMMAYA > > > > > >> Ardis Jackson <ardis1 > >> Ammachi > >> Ammachi > >> Re: Families, Holidays and the question of Amma > >> Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:51:40 -0800 > >> > >> This is so beautiful, brother Temba. It is all about Love. Last > >> night > >> as my brother Stan Williams was preparing to be executed, I spent > >> several hours chanting and sending out unconditional Love to him. As > >> I > >> did so I felt Amma holding me in Her Arms and sending Her Love through > >> me to my brother. She smiled and said "of course I love him. He is > >> my > >> darling son.". > >> > >> > >> On Dec 13, 2005, at 10:51 AM, temba spirits wrote: > >> > >>> everyone understands love,even the conservitive christains.this is > >>> AMMAs > >>> sons experience.AMMAs son was fired from his position of home > >>> director > >>> at a > >>> Christian recovery home because they caught me kissing AMMAs feet on > >>> one of > >>> HER books and chanting.they may say that it was idol worship ,or > >>> demon > >>> worship ,or whatever,however, even after AMMAs son left his position > >>> they > >>> couldnt say that he didnt love.UP UNTO THE KISSING AMMAs FEET THING > >>> ,THE > >>> PASTOR gave AMMAs son praise from the pulpit every week,for not only > >>> was > >>> AMMAS SON RUNNING THE HOME ,BUT he was also responding to letters > >>> coming > >>> from prison and going on regular prison visits.AMMAs son put his > >>> entire > >>> heart and soul into serving the brothers there and they fired him > >>> because of > >>> their religious ignorance.THE PASTOR OF THE HOME ENDED UP SEEING > >>> AMMAS > >>> FACE > >>> AND TO AMMAs son, that meant he was one step closer to > >>> liberation."just to > >>> allow someone to see AMMAs face is to bless them,"even if they dont > >>> know > >>> it.there is something taking place on a sublte level and they could > >>> be > >>> closer to liberation then you may think.AMMA IS PURE LOVE IN A FORM > >>> .EVERYONE WHO SEES HER IS TOUCHED DEEPLY ON A SOUL LEVEL.OUR > >>> UNDERSTANDING > >>> IS LIMITED SO WE PERCIEVE NOTHING AS HAPPENING ,BUT THERE IS MORE > >>> THEN > >>> WHAT > >>> MEETS THEE EYE,MY BELOVED BROTHER.the way you let them know WHO > >>> MOTHER > >>> IS > >>> ,IS SIMPLY BY THE WAY YOU LOVE THEM.AMMAs love lives in you and > >>> operates > >>> through you.when you LOVE THEM,IT IS AMMA LOVING THEM THROUGH YOU AND > >>> IN > >>> THIS CASE THEY DO GET TO KNOW AMMA ,BECAUSE AMMA IS LOVE.SOMETIMES WE > >>> HAVE > >>> TO MEET THEM IN THEIR WORLD AND DO IT SIMPLY FROM A PLACE OF PURE > >>> HEART > >>> ,WITH KNOW EXPECTATION OF THEM TO BELIEVING AS WE DO.TRUE LOVE IS > >>> ACCEPTANCE.AMMA has given her child the abilty to pray in JESUS NAME > >>> or > >>> ALLAH.IN THE ESSENCE ITS ALL THE SAME.WHEN WE LOVE AND PEOPLE > >>> EXEPERINCE > >>> THAT LOVE,THEY ARE GETTING TO KNOW AMMA,THROUGH US.namah shivaya. > >>> > >>> > >>>> Ardis Jackson <ardis1 > >>>> Ammachi > >>>> Ammachi > >>>> Re: Families, Holidays and the question of Amma > >>>> Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:41:37 -0800 > >>>> > >>>> Did you read that article on the list about a letter written by > >>>> Archbishop Nikon of the Russian Orthodox Church calling Krishna a > >>>> satanic demon and begging the mayor of Moscow to not allow the > >>>> Hindus > >>>> to rebuild their temple? Before becoming Hindu, I was Orthodox. It > >>>> horrified me to read his hateful views of Hinduism. And I know many > >>>> fundamentalist Christians are very narrow minded when it comes to > >>>> Jehovah being the only God and hating "idol-worship". Since my > >>>> altar > >>>> takes up a whole wall of my living room, anyone who enters my house > >>>> sees it. It is amazing how silent most of them are! Once in awhile > >>>> someone comes in and says "hey, I am a Hindu too!" That's always a > >>>> wonderful surprise. > >>>> > >>>> I really don't think that there is any way to present Amma to the > >>>> fundamentalist Christians in a way that they can understand. When I > >>>> tell my family about her, I stress her loving nature for all of > >>>> humanity and all of her charitable works and leave it at that. I > >>>> don't > >>>> try to convince them that she is Holy or a Saint or an Avatar. I > >>>> don't > >>>> wear a mala outside of my temple. I don't believe Amma needs us to > >>>> defend Her. She is everything and includes all and everything. I > >>>> bow > >>>> at Her feet. > >>>> > >>>> Pahari Maa > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Dec 12, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Ananthasree wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Namah Shivayah, > >>>>> > >>>>> I am curious to know how my brothers and sisters here on the list > >>>>> deal when the question > >>>>> of Amma is posed by family members, sometimes in a not so > >>>>> understanding manner. I ask > >>>>> because #1 the holidays are coming up, and some of us may have to > >>>>> interact more with > >>>>> distant relatives than we do at other times of the year and #2 I > >>>>> have > >>>>> personally had a > >>>>> disheartening experience recently with a family member over the > >>>>> question of Amma. The > >>>>> family member in question was so incredibly rude and judgemental > >>>>> of > >>>>> Amma, and of > >>>>> course I took it personally and even began to question maintaining > >>>>> contact with that > >>>>> person any longer. > >>>>> > >>>>> So, please share your stories of how best we might explain Amma to > >>>>> the self-righteous > >>>>> Christian at the Christmas dinner table who wants to know who the > >>>>> Indian lady hanging > >>>>> from a charm around our neck is, or what the rudrashka bead is, or > >>>>> the mala. > >>>>> > >>>>> Last year, I received a Christmas card from an Uncle. Inside the > >>>>> card > >>>>> were several religous > >>>>> pamphlets. One pamphlet featured a list of every world religion on > >>>>> the front. Every religion > >>>>> had an "X" through it except for Christianity. Then, when I opened > >>>>> the pamphlet, I was > >>>>> informed that I would be going to hell if I practiced any other > >>>>> religion but for Christianity. I > >>>>> have also been questioned as if I am a brainwashed "cult member" > >>>>> at > >>>>> times. > >>>>> > >>>>> I am wondering if any others on the list have experienced > >>>>> judgement > >>>>> and ignorance within > >>>>> their own families because of their relationship with Amma. I > >>>>> personally cannot even allow > >>>>> my father in my own home, because if he saw my altar....it would > >>>>> most > >>>>> certainly end our > >>>>> relationship. Depressing? You bet. > >>>>> > >>>>> My personal problem sits in the fact that I cannot "let it slide" > >>>>> when someone close to me > >>>>> says something negative about my Mother. My immediate reaction is > >>>>> to > >>>>> act like a Mama > >>>>> bear whose children are being threatened. > >>>>> > >>>>> So, in the effort of turning the conversations here back to > >>>>> Amma....and to perhaps quell > >>>>> some anxiety over the holiday gatherings...I implore you all to > >>>>> please share your stories > >>>>> and perhaps offer some advice as how best to deal with these > >>>>> issues. > >>>>> > >>>>> Jai Ma! > >>>>> > >>>>> Ananthasree > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.ammaschildren.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> â–ª Â Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. > >>>>> Â > >>>>> â–ª Â > >>>>> Â Ammachi > >>>>> Â > >>>>> â–ª Â Terms of > >>>>> Service. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________ > >>> FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! > >>> http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > >>> Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > _______________ > > On the road to retirement? 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Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 AMMAS son is so sorry .he thought your name was a brothers name.forgive him for calling you a brother.you are my darling sister.please call your brother if you want to talk,773-722-3247 >Ardis Jackson <ardis1 >Ammachi >Ammachi >Re: Families, Holidays and the question of Amma >Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:31:45 -0800 > >Divine Love is why we are here. >Your sister, >Pahari Maa > > >On Dec 13, 2005, at 4:32 PM, temba spirits wrote: > > > yes my beloved brother.HE IS AMMAS DARLING SON.sharing this with your > > brother has opened his heart even more.contained in your word id the > > ESSENCE > > OF IT ALL.AMMAs son has fallin in love with this testimony that you > > ,one of > > HER DARLING CHILDREN HAS SHARED.AMMAa son bows to this.OM NAMAH AMMAYA > > > > > >> Ardis Jackson <ardis1 > >> Ammachi > >> Ammachi > >> Re: Families, Holidays and the question of Amma > >> Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:51:40 -0800 > >> > >> This is so beautiful, brother Temba. It is all about Love. Last > >> night > >> as my brother Stan Williams was preparing to be executed, I spent > >> several hours chanting and sending out unconditional Love to him. As > >> I > >> did so I felt Amma holding me in Her Arms and sending Her Love through > >> me to my brother. She smiled and said "of course I love him. He is > >> my > >> darling son.". > >> > >> > >> On Dec 13, 2005, at 10:51 AM, temba spirits wrote: > >> > >>> everyone understands love,even the conservitive christains.this is > >>> AMMAs > >>> sons experience.AMMAs son was fired from his position of home > >>> director > >>> at a > >>> Christian recovery home because they caught me kissing AMMAs feet on > >>> one of > >>> HER books and chanting.they may say that it was idol worship ,or > >>> demon > >>> worship ,or whatever,however, even after AMMAs son left his position > >>> they > >>> couldnt say that he didnt love.UP UNTO THE KISSING AMMAs FEET THING > >>> ,THE > >>> PASTOR gave AMMAs son praise from the pulpit every week,for not only > >>> was > >>> AMMAS SON RUNNING THE HOME ,BUT he was also responding to letters > >>> coming > >>> from prison and going on regular prison visits.AMMAs son put his > >>> entire > >>> heart and soul into serving the brothers there and they fired him > >>> because of > >>> their religious ignorance.THE PASTOR OF THE HOME ENDED UP SEEING > >>> AMMAS > >>> FACE > >>> AND TO AMMAs son, that meant he was one step closer to > >>> liberation."just to > >>> allow someone to see AMMAs face is to bless them,"even if they dont > >>> know > >>> it.there is something taking place on a sublte level and they could > >>> be > >>> closer to liberation then you may think.AMMA IS PURE LOVE IN A FORM > >>> .EVERYONE WHO SEES HER IS TOUCHED DEEPLY ON A SOUL LEVEL.OUR > >>> UNDERSTANDING > >>> IS LIMITED SO WE PERCIEVE NOTHING AS HAPPENING ,BUT THERE IS MORE > >>> THEN > >>> WHAT > >>> MEETS THEE EYE,MY BELOVED BROTHER.the way you let them know WHO > >>> MOTHER > >>> IS > >>> ,IS SIMPLY BY THE WAY YOU LOVE THEM.AMMAs love lives in you and > >>> operates > >>> through you.when you LOVE THEM,IT IS AMMA LOVING THEM THROUGH YOU AND > >>> IN > >>> THIS CASE THEY DO GET TO KNOW AMMA ,BECAUSE AMMA IS LOVE.SOMETIMES WE > >>> HAVE > >>> TO MEET THEM IN THEIR WORLD AND DO IT SIMPLY FROM A PLACE OF PURE > >>> HEART > >>> ,WITH KNOW EXPECTATION OF THEM TO BELIEVING AS WE DO.TRUE LOVE IS > >>> ACCEPTANCE.AMMA has given her child the abilty to pray in JESUS NAME > >>> or > >>> ALLAH.IN THE ESSENCE ITS ALL THE SAME.WHEN WE LOVE AND PEOPLE > >>> EXEPERINCE > >>> THAT LOVE,THEY ARE GETTING TO KNOW AMMA,THROUGH US.namah shivaya. > >>> > >>> > >>>> Ardis Jackson <ardis1 > >>>> Ammachi > >>>> Ammachi > >>>> Re: Families, Holidays and the question of Amma > >>>> Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:41:37 -0800 > >>>> > >>>> Did you read that article on the list about a letter written by > >>>> Archbishop Nikon of the Russian Orthodox Church calling Krishna a > >>>> satanic demon and begging the mayor of Moscow to not allow the > >>>> Hindus > >>>> to rebuild their temple? Before becoming Hindu, I was Orthodox. It > >>>> horrified me to read his hateful views of Hinduism. And I know many > >>>> fundamentalist Christians are very narrow minded when it comes to > >>>> Jehovah being the only God and hating "idol-worship". Since my > >>>> altar > >>>> takes up a whole wall of my living room, anyone who enters my house > >>>> sees it. It is amazing how silent most of them are! Once in awhile > >>>> someone comes in and says "hey, I am a Hindu too!" That's always a > >>>> wonderful surprise. > >>>> > >>>> I really don't think that there is any way to present Amma to the > >>>> fundamentalist Christians in a way that they can understand. When I > >>>> tell my family about her, I stress her loving nature for all of > >>>> humanity and all of her charitable works and leave it at that. I > >>>> don't > >>>> try to convince them that she is Holy or a Saint or an Avatar. I > >>>> don't > >>>> wear a mala outside of my temple. I don't believe Amma needs us to > >>>> defend Her. She is everything and includes all and everything. I > >>>> bow > >>>> at Her feet. > >>>> > >>>> Pahari Maa > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Dec 12, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Ananthasree wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Namah Shivayah, > >>>>> > >>>>> I am curious to know how my brothers and sisters here on the list > >>>>> deal when the question > >>>>> of Amma is posed by family members, sometimes in a not so > >>>>> understanding manner. I ask > >>>>> because #1 the holidays are coming up, and some of us may have to > >>>>> interact more with > >>>>> distant relatives than we do at other times of the year and #2 I > >>>>> have > >>>>> personally had a > >>>>> disheartening experience recently with a family member over the > >>>>> question of Amma. The > >>>>> family member in question was so incredibly rude and judgemental > >>>>> of > >>>>> Amma, and of > >>>>> course I took it personally and even began to question maintaining > >>>>> contact with that > >>>>> person any longer. > >>>>> > >>>>> So, please share your stories of how best we might explain Amma to > >>>>> the self-righteous > >>>>> Christian at the Christmas dinner table who wants to know who the > >>>>> Indian lady hanging > >>>>> from a charm around our neck is, or what the rudrashka bead is, or > >>>>> the mala. > >>>>> > >>>>> Last year, I received a Christmas card from an Uncle. Inside the > >>>>> card > >>>>> were several religous > >>>>> pamphlets. One pamphlet featured a list of every world religion on > >>>>> the front. Every religion > >>>>> had an "X" through it except for Christianity. Then, when I opened > >>>>> the pamphlet, I was > >>>>> informed that I would be going to hell if I practiced any other > >>>>> religion but for Christianity. I > >>>>> have also been questioned as if I am a brainwashed "cult member" > >>>>> at > >>>>> times. > >>>>> > >>>>> I am wondering if any others on the list have experienced > >>>>> judgement > >>>>> and ignorance within > >>>>> their own families because of their relationship with Amma. I > >>>>> personally cannot even allow > >>>>> my father in my own home, because if he saw my altar....it would > >>>>> most > >>>>> certainly end our > >>>>> relationship. Depressing? You bet. > >>>>> > >>>>> My personal problem sits in the fact that I cannot "let it slide" > >>>>> when someone close to me > >>>>> says something negative about my Mother. My immediate reaction is > >>>>> to > >>>>> act like a Mama > >>>>> bear whose children are being threatened. > >>>>> > >>>>> So, in the effort of turning the conversations here back to > >>>>> Amma....and to perhaps quell > >>>>> some anxiety over the holiday gatherings...I implore you all to > >>>>> please share your stories > >>>>> and perhaps offer some advice as how best to deal with these > >>>>> issues. > >>>>> > >>>>> Jai Ma! > >>>>> > >>>>> Ananthasree > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.ammaschildren.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> â–ª Â Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. > >>>>> Â > >>>>> â–ª Â > >>>>> Â Ammachi > >>>>> Â > >>>>> â–ª Â Terms of > >>>>> Service. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________ > >>> FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! > >>> http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > >>> Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > _______________ > > On the road to retirement? 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Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 My $0.02.. I tend to favor the "don't ask, don't tell" approach. My parents know about Amma, mainly from the print and broadcast media coverage of her 2004 Toronto visit.. not from anything I've told them. They know where I go twice a year and are OK with it.. if I share anything about my Amma tour trips it's something such as my visit to Ground Zero site and Yankee Stadium while in New York, or hanging out on the U of Michigan campus while in Ann Arbor. My folks are so accustomed to seeing me wearing a mala, I think they would be more likely to ask why I _DON'T_ have it on! But they've never seen my Amma doll Keval Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 on 12/13/05 6:30 PM, Prasadini at ganesh1008 wrote: > Namah Shivya, > This is great for all situations in life - isn't that what it's all > about? Now if I could just remember to do it........and not let those > buttons get pushed. Gotta get rid of those buttons. > When I was with my first guru I was going through some pretty nasty > stuff with my parents. During the middle of it all on Easter there was > an all day chant. On the way to my parents I stopped and chanted for a > few hours, and then had to go. It was hard to pull myself away, but I > just glided all the way to my parents house and floated through the > afternoon. I was so full of bliss and love that if anyone was > unpleasant, I surely didn't notice it. What a gift! It was my first > lesson in being Love. The roof could have caved in and I would have been > as happy as a clam. > The secret is to be in that state all of the time. Then we would be very > much like Mother. Guess this child has a long way to go..... > Pranams, > Prasadini An adequate amount of meditation each day (for me about 2 hours) keeps me in a bubble of bliss which is a pretty effective buffer against almost anything. > > Rick Archer wrote: >> >> >> One trick I use is to pretend that I'm watching a movie. Sometimes movies >> are scary, sometimes sad. Sometimes people in them get angry, but >> after all, >> it's only a movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 MA,MA.,MAMMAMMAMMAMMAMMMAMAMAAAAAAALOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVEAMMA IS LOVE MAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAA >Prasadini <ganesh1008 >Ammachi >Ammachi >Re: Re: Families, Holidays and the question of Amma >Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:30:46 -0800 > >Namah Shivya, >This is great for all situations in life - isn't that what it's all >about? Now if I could just remember to do it........and not let those >buttons get pushed. Gotta get rid of those buttons. >When I was with my first guru I was going through some pretty nasty >stuff with my parents. During the middle of it all on Easter there was >an all day chant. On the way to my parents I stopped and chanted for a >few hours, and then had to go. It was hard to pull myself away, but I >just glided all the way to my parents house and floated through the >afternoon. I was so full of bliss and love that if anyone was >unpleasant, I surely didn't notice it. What a gift! It was my first >lesson in being Love. The roof could have caved in and I would have been >as happy as a clam. >The secret is to be in that state all of the time. Then we would be very >much like Mother. Guess this child has a long way to go..... >Pranams, >Prasadini > >Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > One trick I use is to pretend that I'm watching a movie. Sometimes >movies > > are scary, sometimes sad. Sometimes people in them get angry, but > > after all, > > it's only a movie. > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > > > > Mata amritanandamayi > > ></gads?t=ms&k=Mata+amritanandamayi&w1=Mata+amritanandama\ yi&c=1&s=26&.sig=DYRmPW4tjbUZrNprNMY6xw> > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > * Visit your group "Ammachi > > <Ammachi>" on the web. > > > > * > > Ammachi > > <Ammachi?subject=Un> > > > > * Terms of > > Service <>. > > > > > > ------ > > > _______________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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