Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Namah Shivayah, I was reading the Mystic Christ last night, and came across this story. It reminds me of the conversation we have been having regarding Amma and Family and dealing with difficult people in general. [There is a story about a holy man. In the village where he lived, a certain man was always persecuting him and antagonizing him. For years this went on, and even though the holy man's congregation was often angered by the athiest's sharp words, the holy man never complained. One day the athiest died suddenly, and the holy man and only a few of the congregation and villagers attended the funeral. The disciples were astonished to see the holy man weeping and grieving. Later they asked him about this. He replied that the congregation and villagers only said or did what they thought would please the holy man. The athiest was the only one available to test the holy man's detachment, compassion, forgiveness and patience. So he truly was grieving to see him depart.] This is the way that we should all view those who try to incite us. It is difficult, but it so clearly true that such circumstances exist for our spiritual growth. If there were not these "teachers in disguise"....we would have a terrible time trying to grow spiritually....because where would the lessons come from? It is the same with all of the sorrows and troubles of this world. I see this way exemplified in many of Tembas posts, and I aspire to this level of awareness. Jai Jai Jai Jai Ma! Ananthasree http://www.ammaschildren.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 yes, so do i! thank you for sharing this teaching story, ananthasree! On 12/14/2005 Ananthasree wrote: :This is the way that we should all view those who try to incite us. It is difficult, but it so :clearly true that such circumstances exist for our spiritual growth. If there were not these :"teachers in disguise"....we would have a terrible time trying to grow spiritually....because :where would the lessons come from? It is the same with all of the sorrows and troubles of :this world. I see this way exemplified in many of Tembas posts, and I aspire to this level of :awareness. : :Jai Jai Jai Jai Ma! : :Ananthasree -- "Naan Amme Snehikkunnu" Be Love, Egyirba http://www.egyirba.net -=-=- .... Between the pillars of spirit and matter the mind has put up a swing. There swings the bound soul and all the worlds with not even the slightest rest. The sun and moon also swing, and there is no end to it. The soul swings through millions of births like the endless circling of sun and moon. Billions of ages have passed with no sigh of relief. The earth and sky swing, Wind and water swing, taking a body, God Himself swings. --Kabir. From 'Teachings of the Hindu Mystics', © 2001 by Andrew Harvey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Another way of looking at this is that every everything is ultimately the Self, everything happening around you is some aspect of the self. If we're not "loving what is" is, as Byron Katie puts it, we're rejecting some aspect of the Self and thus preventing our Self Realization. on 12/14/05 12:11 PM, Devi's Daughter at devi.daughter wrote: > yes, so do i! thank you for sharing this teaching story, ananthasree! > > On 12/14/2005 Ananthasree wrote: > :This is the way that we should all view those who try to incite us. It > is difficult, but it so > :clearly true that such circumstances exist for our spiritual growth. If > there were not these > :"teachers in disguise"....we would have a terrible time trying to grow > spiritually....because > :where would the lessons come from? It is the same with all of the > sorrows and troubles of > :this world. I see this way exemplified in many of Tembas posts, and I > aspire to this level of > :awareness. > : > :Jai Jai Jai Jai Ma! > : > :Ananthasree -- Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 Fax: 815-572-5842 http://searchsummit.com rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Namah Shivaya, What a wonderful way to view "those who incite us"! I recall a story from Rumi about a sheikh (holy man) whose wife was always criticising and haranguing him, and was mean to all the devotees who would come to visit. People asked him why he put up with it. He answered something along the lines of- she's my teacher, without her, I would not be constantly remembering God! It's my parents who are the "inciters" (is that a word?) for me. After all, parents, whatever they may be like, are our first gurus in this life. I hope I can remember this next time I'm in the thick of it with them! Jai Ma Angela. Ammachi, "Ananthasree" <ananthasree@m...> wrote: > > Namah Shivayah, > > I was reading the Mystic Christ last night, and came across this story. It reminds me of the > conversation we have been having regarding Amma and Family and dealing with difficult > people in general. > > [There is a story about a holy man. In the village where he lived, a certain man was always > persecuting him and antagonizing him. For years this went on, and even though the holy > man's congregation was often angered by the athiest's sharp words, the holy man never > complained. One day the athiest died suddenly, and the holy man and only a few of the > congregation and villagers attended the funeral. The disciples were astonished to see the > holy man weeping and grieving. Later they asked him about this. He replied that the > congregation and villagers only said or did what they thought would please the holy man. > The athiest was the only one available to test the holy man's detachment, compassion, > forgiveness and patience. So he truly was grieving to see him depart.] > > This is the way that we should all view those who try to incite us. It is difficult, but it so > clearly true that such circumstances exist for our spiritual growth. If there were not these > "teachers in disguise"....we would have a terrible time trying to grow spiritually....because > where would the lessons come from? It is the same with all of the sorrows and troubles of > this world. I see this way exemplified in many of Tembas posts, and I aspire to this level of > awareness. > > Jai Jai Jai Jai Ma! > > Ananthasree > > http://www.ammaschildren.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Om Namah Shivaya! Sister Angela I am also finding similar experiences like you say. Till I got in association with Amma, I used to follow life based on what my mom says. Ever since, I got in contact with Amma, I found my outlooks and perspectives changed a lot. My mom is finding me with a different outlook and she is not comfortable with that. Though I tried in the past a few times to get my mom to see Amma, she is not happy with that and I have stopped that attempt. These days I find easily provoked by my mom and after talking to my parents I find myself depressed though by chanting the Mantra Amma taught me, I find myself better. Now I can take lesson from what all of you say on this subject. Om Namah Shivaya! Mahadevan Venkitaraman Ammachi, "frangi888" <frangi888> wrote: > > Namah Shivaya, > What a wonderful way to view "those who incite us"! > I recall a story from Rumi about a sheikh (holy man) whose wife was > always criticising and haranguing him, and was mean to all the > devotees who would come to visit. People asked him why he put up with > it. He answered something along the lines of- she's my teacher, > without her, I would not be constantly remembering God! > It's my parents who are the "inciters" (is that a word?) for me. > After all, parents, whatever they may be like, are our first gurus in > this life. I hope I can remember this next time I'm in the thick of > it with them! > Jai Ma > Angela. > > Ammachi, "Ananthasree" <ananthasree@m...> > wrote: > > > > Namah Shivayah, > > > > I was reading the Mystic Christ last night, and came across this > story. It reminds me of the > > conversation we have been having regarding Amma and Family and > dealing with difficult > > people in general. > > > > [There is a story about a holy man. In the village where he lived, > a certain man was always > > persecuting him and antagonizing him. For years this went on, and > even though the holy > > man's congregation was often angered by the athiest's sharp words, > the holy man never > > complained. One day the athiest died suddenly, and the holy man and > only a few of the > > congregation and villagers attended the funeral. The disciples were > astonished to see the > > holy man weeping and grieving. Later they asked him about this. He > replied that the > > congregation and villagers only said or did what they thought would > please the holy man. > > The athiest was the only one available to test the holy man's > detachment, compassion, > > forgiveness and patience. So he truly was grieving to see him > depart.] > > > > This is the way that we should all view those who try to incite us. > It is difficult, but it so > > clearly true that such circumstances exist for our spiritual > growth. If there were not these > > "teachers in disguise"....we would have a terrible time trying to > grow spiritually....because > > where would the lessons come from? It is the same with all of the > sorrows and troubles of > > this world. I see this way exemplified in many of Tembas posts, and > I aspire to this level of > > awareness. > > > > Jai Jai Jai Jai Ma! > > > > Ananthasree > > > > http://www.ammaschildren.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 OM NAMAH SIVAYA i think many parents they try to maintain their connection with their adult children through the past. which as you say, once we meet Amma, is most likely a place we no longer are mentally or spiritually. it can create friction. for awhile visits with either parent would make me physically ill afterward. my wife would say she could see me turning more green the longer we were there. but i remedied that, like you, with my mantra. i remember the first time i tried it, it was like a force shield around me. nothing my family said or did during the visit affected me. it really helped me to realize the power of a mantra from Her. the Name of God is truly God. JAI MA Ammachi, "mahadevanv" <mahadevanv> wrote: > > Om Namah Shivaya! > > Sister Angela > > I am also finding similar experiences like you say. Till I got > in association with Amma, I used to follow life based on what my mom > says. Ever since, I got in contact with Amma, I found my outlooks and > perspectives changed a lot. My mom is finding me with a different > outlook and she is not comfortable with that. Though I tried in the > past a few times to get my mom to see Amma, she is not happy with > that and I have stopped that attempt. These days I find easily > provoked by my mom and after talking to my parents I find myself > depressed though by chanting the Mantra Amma taught me, I find myself > better. Now I can take lesson from what all of you say on this > subject. > > Om Namah Shivaya! > > Mahadevan Venkitaraman > > Ammachi, "frangi888" <frangi888> wrote: > > > > Namah Shivaya, > > What a wonderful way to view "those who incite us"! > > I recall a story from Rumi about a sheikh (holy man) whose wife was > > always criticising and haranguing him, and was mean to all the > > devotees who would come to visit. People asked him why he put up > with > > it. He answered something along the lines of- she's my teacher, > > without her, I would not be constantly remembering God! > > It's my parents who are the "inciters" (is that a word?) for me. > > After all, parents, whatever they may be like, are our first gurus > in > > this life. I hope I can remember this next time I'm in the thick of > > it with them! > > Jai Ma > > Angela. > > > > Ammachi, "Ananthasree" <ananthasree@m...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Namah Shivayah, > > > > > > I was reading the Mystic Christ last night, and came across this > > story. It reminds me of the > > > conversation we have been having regarding Amma and Family and > > dealing with difficult > > > people in general. > > > > > > [There is a story about a holy man. In the village where he > lived, > > a certain man was always > > > persecuting him and antagonizing him. For years this went on, and > > even though the holy > > > man's congregation was often angered by the athiest's sharp > words, > > the holy man never > > > complained. One day the athiest died suddenly, and the holy man > and > > only a few of the > > > congregation and villagers attended the funeral. The disciples > were > > astonished to see the > > > holy man weeping and grieving. Later they asked him about this. > He > > replied that the > > > congregation and villagers only said or did what they thought > would > > please the holy man. > > > The athiest was the only one available to test the holy man's > > detachment, compassion, > > > forgiveness and patience. So he truly was grieving to see him > > depart.] > > > > > > This is the way that we should all view those who try to incite > us. > > It is difficult, but it so > > > clearly true that such circumstances exist for our spiritual > > growth. If there were not these > > > "teachers in disguise"....we would have a terrible time trying to > > grow spiritually....because > > > where would the lessons come from? It is the same with all of the > > sorrows and troubles of > > > this world. I see this way exemplified in many of Tembas posts, > and > > I aspire to this level of > > > awareness. > > > > > > Jai Jai Jai Jai Ma! > > > > > > Ananthasree > > > > > > http://www.ammaschildren.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 beautiful words my sister. >"mahadevanv" <mahadevanv >Ammachi >Ammachi > Re: Food For Thought >Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:33:17 -0000 > >Om Namah Shivaya! > >Sister Angela > > I am also finding similar experiences like you say. Till I got >in association with Amma, I used to follow life based on what my mom >says. Ever since, I got in contact with Amma, I found my outlooks and >perspectives changed a lot. My mom is finding me with a different >outlook and she is not comfortable with that. Though I tried in the >past a few times to get my mom to see Amma, she is not happy with >that and I have stopped that attempt. These days I find easily >provoked by my mom and after talking to my parents I find myself >depressed though by chanting the Mantra Amma taught me, I find myself >better. Now I can take lesson from what all of you say on this >subject. > >Om Namah Shivaya! > > Mahadevan Venkitaraman > >Ammachi, "frangi888" <frangi888> wrote: > > > > Namah Shivaya, > > What a wonderful way to view "those who incite us"! > > I recall a story from Rumi about a sheikh (holy man) whose wife was > > always criticising and haranguing him, and was mean to all the > > devotees who would come to visit. People asked him why he put up >with > > it. He answered something along the lines of- she's my teacher, > > without her, I would not be constantly remembering God! > > It's my parents who are the "inciters" (is that a word?) for me. > > After all, parents, whatever they may be like, are our first gurus >in > > this life. I hope I can remember this next time I'm in the thick of > > it with them! > > Jai Ma > > Angela. > > > > Ammachi, "Ananthasree" <ananthasree@m...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Namah Shivayah, > > > > > > I was reading the Mystic Christ last night, and came across this > > story. It reminds me of the > > > conversation we have been having regarding Amma and Family and > > dealing with difficult > > > people in general. > > > > > > [There is a story about a holy man. In the village where he >lived, > > a certain man was always > > > persecuting him and antagonizing him. For years this went on, and > > even though the holy > > > man's congregation was often angered by the athiest's sharp >words, > > the holy man never > > > complained. One day the athiest died suddenly, and the holy man >and > > only a few of the > > > congregation and villagers attended the funeral. The disciples >were > > astonished to see the > > > holy man weeping and grieving. Later they asked him about this. >He > > replied that the > > > congregation and villagers only said or did what they thought >would > > please the holy man. > > > The athiest was the only one available to test the holy man's > > detachment, compassion, > > > forgiveness and patience. So he truly was grieving to see him > > depart.] > > > > > > This is the way that we should all view those who try to incite >us. > > It is difficult, but it so > > > clearly true that such circumstances exist for our spiritual > > growth. If there were not these > > > "teachers in disguise"....we would have a terrible time trying to > > grow spiritually....because > > > where would the lessons come from? It is the same with all of the > > sorrows and troubles of > > > this world. I see this way exemplified in many of Tembas posts, >and > > I aspire to this level of > > > awareness. > > > > > > Jai Jai Jai Jai Ma! > > > > > > Ananthasree > > > > > > http://www.ammaschildren.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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