Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Dear Prasadini: I want to second your point. Amma never made this prediction to my knowledge. GeorgeSon Ammachi, Prasadini <ganesh1008@c...> wrote: > > Namah Shivaya, > As I recall, the source of the Dec 26 prediction was not verified. It > could have been rumor. > In a talk many years ago Swami Paratmananda said that Mother will tell > people all sorts of things that don't happen. > I've had Her tell me very specific things to do about my heath that > have helped quite a bit. She has also told me things that haven't > happened - yet. > The ways of a mahatma are beyond our comprehension. > Jai Ma! > Prasadini > > jmcs_06 wrote: > > Peace and greetings and a blessed new year 2006 to all, > > > > I've noticed there's been little discussion in this group since Dec. > > 26th about the email before Christmas regarding Amma's ominous > > prediction for Dec. 26th, 2005. I wonder what Amma devotees are > > thinking/feeling about this, if anything...I know Amma does and has > > done many wonderful things and is renown in this world for Her works > > yet She told me things many years ago during darshan in answer to a > > question I asked of Her (Her answer to me was translated by one of the > > Swamis to me), that didn't come true in my life, and now this Dec. 26, > > 2005 prediction apparently didn't happen either. > > > > OM Shanti, > > > > "kalika" > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > > > > Mata amritanandamayi > > </gads? t=ms&k=Mata+amritanandamayi&w1=Mata+amritanandamayi&c=1&s=26&.sig=DYRm PW4tjbUZrNprNMY6xw> > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > * Visit your group "Ammachi > > <Ammachi>" on the web. > > > > * > > Ammachi > > <Ammachi? subject=Un> > > > > * Terms of > > Service <>. > > > > > > ------ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Ammachi, Prasadini <ganesh1008@c...> wrote: > > Namah Shivaya, > As I recall, the source of the Dec 26 prediction was not verified. It > could have been rumor. Yet, to be balanced, had something happened that day, many would have jumped to the conclusion that Amma had predicted that and been proclaiming such. > In a talk many years ago Swami Paratmananda said that Mother will tell > people all sorts of things that don't happen. I'm very curious as to why. I agree with you that one cannot mentally fathom the guru, but one still wonders why this particular dynamic. Mother has said many things to me that haven't come true--yet--as you say. Thanks in Amma, Jyotsna > I've had Her tell me very specific things to do about my heath that > have helped quite a bit. She has also told me things that haven't > happened - yet. > The ways of a mahatma are beyond our comprehension. > Jai Ma! > Prasadini > > jmcs_06 wrote: > > Peace and greetings and a blessed new year 2006 to all, > > > > I've noticed there's been little discussion in this group since Dec. > > 26th about the email before Christmas regarding Amma's ominous > > prediction for Dec. 26th, 2005. I wonder what Amma devotees are > > thinking/feeling about this, if anything...I know Amma does and has > > done many wonderful things and is renown in this world for Her works > > yet She told me things many years ago during darshan in answer to a > > question I asked of Her (Her answer to me was translated by one of the > > Swamis to me), that didn't come true in my life, and now this Dec. 26, > > 2005 prediction apparently didn't happen either. > > > > OM Shanti, > > > > "kalika" > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > > > > Mata amritanandamayi > > </gads? t=ms&k=Mata+amritanandamayi&w1=Mata+amritanandamayi&c=1&s=26&.sig=DYRm PW4tjbUZrNprNMY6xw> > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > * Visit your group "Ammachi > > <Ammachi>" on the web. > > > > * > > Ammachi > > <Ammachi? subject=Un> > > > > * Terms of > > Service <>. > > > > > > ------ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Namah Shivaya, Well, as Swami Paratmananda said, Mother will say a lot of things that turn out not to be so. When people would tell Her about a problem She would say "Amma will take care of it" and nothing would happen, or She would say things would get better and they wouldn't. She told me She would make a sankalpa about my health, and it didn't get better, but it didn't get worse, given my condition, it could have. Maybe She wanted me to stop asking Her for health when She has better things to give. Mother is not the only one. My husband is very much into Karunamayi, and she has said all kinds of things to me - direct answers to direct questions - like two years in a row when asked She told me to go to Her retreat, and then something would happen and I wouldn't be able to go. The first year I had plane tickets, paid the retreat fee, etc, and was just too sick to make the trip. Who knows with these people? They aren't fortune tellers. As Big Swami says, he's been with Her for so many years and just can't understand Mother. I think the idea is to let it go, let it flow. Not that I'm any good at that myself. Jai MA! Prasadini jmcs_06 wrote: > Yet She HAS given direct personal answers to me (and others) during > darshan, and translated by the Swamis to me (and others), in direct > answer to personal questions asked, that turn out not to be true. > Those were not "rumors"...Kalika > > > > Ammachi, "leokomor" <leokomor> wrote: > > > > Dear Prasadini: > > > > I want to second your point. > > Amma never made this prediction to my knowledge. > > > > GeorgeSon > > > > > > > > > > Ammachi, Prasadini <ganesh1008@c...> wrote: > > > > > > Namah Shivaya, > > > As I recall, the source of the Dec 26 prediction was not > verified. > > It > > > could have been rumor. > > > In a talk many years ago Swami Paratmananda said that Mother > will > > tell > > > people all sorts of things that don't happen. > > > I've had Her tell me very specific things to do about my heath > > that > > > have helped quite a bit. She has also told me things that > haven't > > > happened - yet. > > > The ways of a mahatma are beyond our comprehension. > > > Jai Ma! > > > Prasadini > > > > > > jmcs_06 wrote: > > > > Peace and greetings and a blessed new year 2006 to all, > > > > > > > > I've noticed there's been little discussion in this group > since > > Dec. > > > > 26th about the email before Christmas regarding Amma's ominous > > > > prediction for Dec. 26th, 2005. I wonder what Amma devotees are > > > > thinking/feeling about this, if anything...I know Amma does > and > > has > > > > done many wonderful things and is renown in this world for Her > > works > > > > yet She told me things many years ago during darshan in answer > to > > a > > > > question I asked of Her (Her answer to me was translated by > one > > of the > > > > Swamis to me), that didn't come true in my life, and now this > > Dec. 26, > > > > 2005 prediction apparently didn't happen either. > > > > > > > > OM Shanti, > > > > > > > > "kalika" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mata amritanandamayi > > > > </gads? > > > t=ms&k=Mata+amritanandamayi&w1=Mata+amritanandamayi&c=1&s=26&.sig=DYR > m > > PW4tjbUZrNprNMY6xw> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > --- > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group "Ammachi > > > > <Ammachi>" on the web. > > > > > > > > * > > > > Ammachi > > > > <Ammachi? > > subject=Un> > > > > > > > > * > Terms of > > > > Service <>. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > --- > > ------ > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > Mata amritanandamayi > </gads?t=ms&k=Mata+amritanandamayi&w1=Mata+amritanandamay\ i&c=1&s=26&.sig=DYRmPW4tjbUZrNprNMY6xw> > > > > ------ > > > * Visit your group "Ammachi > <Ammachi>" on the web. > > * > Ammachi > <Ammachi?subject=Un> > > * Terms of > Service <>. > > > ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 I didn't hear her say this, but saw devotees report it. However, she did not say, a terrible thing will come to pass. She asked for prayers to ward off negative energies. Maybe it worked... -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives Global Women's History http://www.suppressedhistories.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Namah shivaya Poor Amma-She has a tough job- If She says a disaster may happen and asks people to pray, and then the disaster happens, people will ask" Amma why did you not prevent the disaster? why couldnt you prevent the tsunami etc?" On the other hand, if Amma says that a tough time is ahead,and asks people to pray,and then if nothing bad happens, then people ask" Amma why wasnt there any disaster?why was your prediction wrong?" it is we through our negativity who create disasters, and we through our prayers and God's Grace can prevent them too. bala DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Actually, Amma has an easy job. If nothing bad happens, devotees will say it is because of Amma's grace. If something bad does happen, devotees will say that it is because people did not pray hard enough! :-) In fact, I once told Amma this, telling her that she gets off scot- free whatever happens -- good things are caused by her grace, and bad things are caused by our actions. Nandu Ammachi, balakrishnan Shankar <balakrishnan_sh> wrote: > > > Namah shivaya > > Poor Amma-She has a tough job- If She says a disaster may happen and asks people to pray, and then the disaster happens, people will ask" Amma why did you not prevent the disaster? why couldnt you prevent the tsunami etc?" > > On the other hand, if Amma says that a tough time is ahead,and asks people to pray,and then if nothing bad happens, then people ask" Amma why wasnt there any disaster?why was your prediction wrong?" > > it is we through our negativity who create disasters, and we through our prayers and God's Grace can prevent them too. > > bala > > > > > > > DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 OM NAMAH SIVAYA if we take everything to be Her grace, does our job not become easy? JAI MA Ammachi, "jmcs_06" <jmcs_06> wrote: > > Nandu, > > Amen..astute observation. This dynamic you mention below also occurs > in other spiritual paths/religions as well. > > Kalika > > > Ammachi, "vallathnkumar" <vallathn@h...> > wrote: > > > > Actually, Amma has an easy job. If nothing bad happens, devotees > > will say it is because of Amma's grace. If something bad does > > happen, devotees will say that it is because people did not pray > hard > > enough! :-) > > > > In fact, I once told Amma this, telling her that she gets off scot- > > free whatever happens -- good things are caused by her grace, and > bad > > things are caused by our actions. > > > > Nandu > > > > Ammachi, balakrishnan Shankar > > <balakrishnan_sh> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namah shivaya > > > > > > Poor Amma-She has a tough job- If She says a disaster may > > happen and asks people to pray, and then the disaster happens, > people > > will ask" Amma why did you not prevent the disaster? why couldnt > you > > prevent the tsunami etc?" > > > > > > On the other hand, if Amma says that a tough time is ahead,and > > asks people to pray,and then if nothing bad happens, then people > > ask" Amma why wasnt there any disaster?why was your prediction > > wrong?" > > > > > > it is we through our negativity who create disasters, and we > > through our prayers and God's Grace can prevent them too. > > > > > > bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or > less > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Nandu, You have made a nice point in a very humorous way. But the point Bala was making was in the last sentence: it is we through our negativity who create disasters, and we through our prayers and God's Grace can prevent them too. In other words, focus within to see what you can do to improve the situation. Jai Ma! Ammachi, "vallathnkumar" <vallathn@h...> wrote: > > Actually, Amma has an easy job. If nothing bad happens, devotees > will say it is because of Amma's grace. If something bad does > happen, devotees will say that it is because people did not pray hard > enough! :-) > > In fact, I once told Amma this, telling her that she gets off scot- > free whatever happens -- good things are caused by her grace, and bad > things are caused by our actions. > > Nandu > > Ammachi, balakrishnan Shankar > <balakrishnan_sh> wrote: > > > > > > Namah shivaya > > > > Poor Amma-She has a tough job- If She says a disaster may > happen and asks people to pray, and then the disaster happens, people > will ask" Amma why did you not prevent the disaster? why couldnt you > prevent the tsunami etc?" > > > > On the other hand, if Amma says that a tough time is ahead,and > asks people to pray,and then if nothing bad happens, then people > ask" Amma why wasnt there any disaster?why was your prediction > wrong?" > > > > it is we through our negativity who create disasters, and we > through our prayers and God's Grace can prevent them too. > > > > bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Hi Nandu, Thankfully we all know that after coming into contact with Amma, things have by and large gotten much better for most of us, compared to our pre-Amma days. Which is probably why you keep coming to the retreats year after year. Say for arguments sake, that instead of going to the retreats, you went to a rock concert every year; I wonder how much satisfaction you would have got, this would have been a way to "scientifically" validate Amma's grace. I am not suggesting that you do it, in fact I am pretty sure that you will NOT do it, nor will most others :-). I rest my case! -yogaman Ammachi, "vallathnkumar" <vallathn@h...> wrote: > > Actually, Amma has an easy job. If nothing bad happens, devotees > will say it is because of Amma's grace. If something bad does > happen, devotees will say that it is because people did not pray hard > enough! :-) > > In fact, I once told Amma this, telling her that she gets off scot- > free whatever happens -- good things are caused by her grace, and bad > things are caused by our actions. > > Nandu > > Ammachi, balakrishnan Shankar > <balakrishnan_sh> wrote: > > > > > > Namah shivaya > > > > Poor Amma-She has a tough job- If She says a disaster may > happen and asks people to pray, and then the disaster happens, people > will ask" Amma why did you not prevent the disaster? why couldnt you > prevent the tsunami etc?" > > > > On the other hand, if Amma says that a tough time is ahead,and > asks people to pray,and then if nothing bad happens, then people > ask" Amma why wasnt there any disaster?why was your prediction > wrong?" > > > > it is we through our negativity who create disasters, and we > through our prayers and God's Grace can prevent them too. > > > > bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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