Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 ckeniley wrote: >> ...There is some evidence that there was a world wide civilization that >> was culturally influenced by hinduism: artifacts of indian tradition >> exist in the native american traditions! >> It may take our archeologists time to get the story of mankind >> somewhat correct, in the meantime I am very sceptical of the modern >> timelines western historians give to the ascent of "civilization"... Dear ckeniley ~ some years ago, I took an ethnomusicology course, when I was living back in the DC area. Each of the 5 students (very small wonderful class) had to study a tradition and create a ritual to share with the group. It was an incredible experience. I chose the Navajo tradition because of the incorporation of art (sandpaintings) and music in their healing rituals, particularly the Blessingway. Later, an exhibit came to the National Museum of Art. It was an exhibit, with mostly photos, but one actual bonified sand!! painting, showing the use of the Mandala in Tibetan Buddhism. Later there was another exhibit about how Hindu women paint on their houses and sidewalks every single day beautiful images, with a mixture of rice paste and water. There were also, in this exhibit, photos of the exquisite mandalas that Hindu women made daily or for certain festivals, all made out of different colored flower petals. It is impossible to describe the astounding beauty. And like you said, there are very definite correlations between Eastern culture and that of the Indigenous Americans. I even have a book about it. Unfortunately, it is back in Oregon in storage. I searched under topic on Amazon and couldn't find the title. But the book states a theory I have read in other places that, in ancient times, peoples from the East crossed the Bering Straits and wound their various and sundry ways into what is now North America (and probably South America too, for that matter). I even have a verse about it in one of my songs. Here is the first verse, which addresses these origins, the chorus, the 5th verse, which states the plight we are all in, and the last verse, which addresses what I believe is now our work. (The song is really like a revised history of the US 101.) Jai Ma ~ Linda P.S. One of my favorite times performing this song was at a gallery opening in the DC area. My daughter and a friend did back up vocals on the chorus, and pretty soon, the attendees joined in. After awhile, the song, and especially the chorus, began to take on the quality of an old fashioned spiritual with people singing their hearts out. For the very last chorus, I stopped playing my guitar and started clapping along with the singing. We actually did a couple of courses that way because I just had to keep the experience going; then I took my guitar back up, did the chorus one more time and faded out. : ) like the Cheshire Cat This Home America 1. We come from many lands and now this is our home, this soil America, and we are family. Some came across the Bering Straits, some came across the ocean, some came in slavers' ships goin' home. Chorus Goin’ home; goin’ home; on this land, we’re goin’ home. We’re all family now, And we’re goin’ home. 5. I'm not sure how we came to be pitted against each other. Prejudice or philosophy seem to blind us. You can blame it on religion. You can blame it on the mothers and the fathers, but love is the only way now for goin’ home. 6. Now we’ve got to find a way to really come together, because the burnings, threats and bombs are meant to part us. We’ve got to start today; we’ve got to do it for forever. We’ve got to bring it up from deep inside,from the heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 When I met with Tibetans in India, Nepal and Sikkim, I was amazed at how much they looked like the Native Americans of the southwest. They have bronze skin and wear their hair in long braids. They wear a lot of silver and turquoise, especially turquoise earrings. They are a very beautiful people. They have an inner peace and joy. On Jan 24, 2006, at 9:07 AM, nierika wrote: > > ckeniley wrote: > > >> ...There is some evidence that there was a world wide > civilization that > >> was culturally influenced by hinduism: artifacts of indian > tradition > >> exist in the native american traditions! > > >> It may take our archeologists time to get the story of mankind > >> somewhat correct, in the meantime I am very sceptical of the > modern > >> timelines western historians give to the ascent of > "civilization"... > > > Dear ckeniley ~ some years ago, I took an ethnomusicology course, > when I was > living back in the DC area. Each of the 5 students (very small > wonderful > class) had to study a tradition and create a ritual to share with > the group. It > was an incredible experience. I chose the Navajo tradition because > of the > incorporation of art (sandpaintings) and music in their healing > rituals, > particularly the Blessingway. > > Later, an exhibit came to the National Museum of Art. It was an > exhibit, > with mostly photos, but one actual bonified sand!! painting, showing > the use of > the Mandala in Tibetan Buddhism. Later there was another exhibit > about how > Hindu women paint on their houses and sidewalks every single day > beautiful > images, with a mixture of rice paste and water. There were also, in > this exhibit, > photos of the exquisite mandalas that Hindu women made daily or for > certain > festivals, all made out of different colored flower petals. It is > impossible > to describe the astounding beauty. > > And like you said, there are very definite correlations between > Eastern > culture and that of the Indigenous Americans. I even have a book > about it. > Unfortunately, it is back in Oregon in storage. I searched under > topic on Amazon > and couldn't find the title. But the book states a theory I have read > in other > places that, in ancient times, peoples from the East crossed the > Bering > Straits and wound their various and sundry ways into what is now > North America (and > probably South America too, for that matter). I even have a verse > about it > in one of my songs. > Here is the first verse, which addresses these origins, the chorus, > the 5th > verse, which states the plight we are all in, and the last verse, > which > addresses what I believe is now our work. (The song is really like a > revised > history of the US 101.) Jai Ma ~ Linda > P.S. One of my favorite times performing this song was at a gallery > opening > in the DC area. My daughter and a friend did back up vocals on the > chorus, and > pretty soon, the attendees joined in. After awhile, the song, and > especially > the chorus, began to take on the quality of an old fashioned > spiritual with > people singing their hearts out. For the very last chorus, I stopped > playing > my guitar and started clapping along with the singing. We actually > did a > couple of courses that way because I just had to keep the experience > going; then > I took my guitar back up, did the chorus one more time and faded > out. : ) > like the Cheshire Cat > > > > This Home America > 1. > We come from many lands > and now this is our home, > this soil America, > and we are family. > Some came across the Bering Straits, > some came across the ocean, > some came in slavers' ships > goin' home. > Chorus > Goin’ home; > goin’ home; > on this land, we’re goin’ home. > We’re all family now, > And we’re goin’ home. > 5.  > I'm not sure how we came to be > pitted against each other. > Prejudice or philosophy > seem to blind us. > You can blame it on religion. > You can blame it on the mothers and the fathers, > but love is the only way now > for goin’ home. > 6. > Now we’ve got to find a way > to really come together, > because the burnings, threats and bombs > are meant to part us. > We’ve got to start today; > we’ve got to do it for forever. > We’ve got to bring it up from deep inside,from the heart. > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > ▪  Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. >  > ▪  >  Ammachi >  > ▪  Terms of > Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 The language of the Navajo and Tibetans is very similar and both practice sand painting. An anthropologist who got to know the Apache was allowed into some of their rituals and was amazed at what she saw. She asked them the name of their god and they wouldn¹t tell her. She showed them pictures of the Egyptian god Ra and they said that was their god. They said they had stopped telling this to white people because no one believed them. And I just read on the stargate website that there are similarities between the Dogon of Africa and the Anasazi (sorry about that spelling), the mysterious builders of Mesa Verde, etc. There is a fantastic article on the Lower Indus civilization on the stargate website. pr > When I met with Tibetans in India, Nepal and Sikkim, I was amazed at > how much they looked like the Native Americans of the southwest. They > have bronze skin and wear their hair in long braids. They wear a lot > of silver and turquoise, especially turquoise earrings. They are a > very beautiful people. They have an inner peace and joy. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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