Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 I’m leaving the list… I have no need to read of patronizing comments, childish behaviour, and such. I can easily step outside into my own world to experience those things. Brightest Blessings and love to all of you… ¸..• ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.•´ .•´¨¨)) ((¸¸.•´ ..•´ -:¦:- ..::Brightest Blessings::.. -:¦:- ((¸¸.•´.¸..•` ..::Bela::.. "Like nectar in the fresh morning flower, let goodness fill you. The heart that unfolds all its petals spreading the fragrance of goodness is the choicest offering at the altar of God" - Amma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Oh, Bela, please don't leave. I have enjoyed your sharing so very much. Pahari Maa On Feb 24, 2006, at 8:37 PM, Bela Gaytan wrote: > I’m leaving the list… I have no need to read of patronizing comments, > childish behaviour, and such. I can easily step outside into my own > world > to experience those things. > > > > Brightest Blessings and love to all of you… > > > > ¸..• ´¨¨)) -:¦:- > ¸.•´ .•´¨¨)) > ((¸¸.•´ ..•´ -:¦:- ..::Brightest Blessings::.. > -:¦:- ((¸¸.•´.¸..•`       ..::Bela::..  > > > > "Like nectar in the fresh morning flower, let goodness fill you. The > heart > that unfolds all its petals spreading the fragrance of goodness is the > choicest offering at the altar of God" - Amma > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > Mata amritanandamayi > > > > > > ▪  Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. >  > ▪  >  Ammachi >  > ▪  Terms of > Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 namah sivaya, bela don't leave! > > On Feb 24, 2006, at 8:37 PM, Bela Gaytan wrote: > > > I’m leaving the list… I have no need to read of patronizing comments, > > childish behaviour, and such. I can easily step outside into my own > > world > > to experience those things. > > > > > > > > Brightest Blessings and love to all of you… > > > > > > > > ¸..• ´¨¨)) -:¦:- > > ¸.•´ .•´¨¨)) > > ((¸¸.•´ ..•´ -:¦:- ..::Brightest Blessings::.. > > -:¦:- ((¸¸.•´.¸..•` ..::Bela::.. > > > > > > > > "Like nectar in the fresh morning flower, let goodness fill you. The > > heart > > that unfolds all its petals spreading the fragrance of goodness is the > > choicest offering at the altar of God" - Amma > > -- Be Love, Egyirba -=-=- .... ”Each moment is a festival.” Each breath we take is a cause to celebrate. Each breath we take is another chance to remember God. --from Sahib Sadhu The White Sadhu. Copyright 2001. Devi Mandir Publications. First Edition. www.shreemaa.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Ammachi, "Bela Gaytan" <bela.fela wrote: > I'm leaving the list… I have no need to read of patronizing comments, > childish behaviour, and such. I can easily step outside into my own > world to experience those things. Hi Bela, Namah Shivaya. I am assuming you have not left the group till now, hence this reply. While I totally understand how you are feeling and what made you say this, I want to emphasize one thing that may make you see things differently: that there is no "outside" and "inside". Spirituality is not an "inside" affair where everything is nice and sweet and sugary... the life here is just as brutal as the life "outside". The main difference between a spiritual atmosphere and the regular world outside is that "in here", you get a 'testing ground' to expose yourself to various situations and refine your responses. In computer world terms, I would call it the 'testing environment' Once you have refined yourself, you step into the outside world which is the 'production environment' or the 'live environment'. How you respond 'out here' all that you learnt 'in there' is a true measure of your growth and a true measure of the efficacy of your practices. So don't go 'out there' on a huff. Rather do go 'out there' (viz, there is no need to ever come back 'in here') if you feel confident of handling the world with the BEST you have got at all times. I don't mean to offend anybody with these statements, but these happen to form part of my core beliefs and I perceived the need to mention them here. 24x7, life is asking you just 1 question "what are you going to do about this situation?". If you can respond appropriately, then there is no need for any more spiritual practices. Spiritual practices are for one purpose only: to RESPOND to life's unending stream of questions, not REACT to them. Hope this did not sound patronizing, nor offensive. it wasn't meant that way anyway. Jai Ma! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 --- manoj_menon <ammademon wrote: > Ammachi, "Bela Gaytan" > <bela.fela wrote: > > I'm leaving the list… I have no need to read of > patronizing comments, > > childish behaviour, and such. I can easily step > outside into my own > > world to experience those things. > > Hi Bela, > > Namah Shivaya. > > I am assuming you have not left the group till now, > hence this reply. > > Bella has already d and won't be reading this thread (as moderator I get automated messages whenever someone joins or leaves this group), so messages such as this one should be sent to her off-list. Keval Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Ah, yes... the difference between "responding based on one's spiritual growth" and "reacting". I am 65 and have been on a spiritual path my whole life. But just recently I found myself "reacting on an emotional basis" to, of all people, my guru. It is always such a shock when reaction sets in. My guru has always told us to just take a second between the time when a karmic arrow hits and sending off another arrow in the form of reactive behavior. I pray that this spiritual growth will happen for all of us. Pahari Maa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 wow, manoj! i think this is really good advice--and core belief worth having (fwiw!) manoj_menon wrote: > Hi Bela, > > Namah Shivaya. > > I am assuming you have not left the group till now, hence this reply. > > While I totally understand how you are feeling and what made you say > this, I want to emphasize one thing that may make you see things > differently: that there is no "outside" and "inside". [snipped for brevity] -- Be Love, Egyirba -=-=- .... "Don't settle for anything but mad, passionate, extraordinary love. There are too many mediocre things in life and love shouldn't be one of them" ~~Unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818 wrote: > Bella has already d and won't be reading > this thread (as moderator I get automated messages > whenever someone joins or leaves this group), so > messages such as this one should be sent to her > off-list. > > Keval Thanks. I guessed it could have been one way or the other, hence the disclaimer. I forwarded the same mail to her personal id. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Hi Egyirba, Yes it is a good principle, but I can't take credit for "discovering" it. . I have been seeing effective people living this principle (response vs reaction) all my life, and I became aware of how it plays out during various spritual retreats I took before Amma and in books and articles written by MP Pandit (Aurobindo disciple), but the principle really firmed up when I read Stephen Covey's "7 habits of highly effective people" - a surprisingly holistic and spiritual book, considering that it popularly is classified under the self- help genre. The first habit of the book - Be proactive - is all about response vs reaction. Jai Ma! Ammachi, Devi's Daughter <devi.daughter wrote: > > wow, manoj! i think this is really good advice--and core belief worth > having (fwiw!) > > manoj_menon wrote: > > Hi Bela, > > > > Namah Shivaya. > > > > I am assuming you have not left the group till now, hence this reply. > > > > While I totally understand how you are feeling and what made you say > > this, I want to emphasize one thing that may make you see things > > differently: that there is no "outside" and "inside". > [snipped for brevity] > > -- > > Be Love, > Egyirba > > -=-=- > ... > "Don't settle for anything but mad, passionate, extraordinary love. > There are too many mediocre things in life and love shouldn't be one > of them" ~~Unknown > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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