Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Sometimes Baba asks a devotee to be his wife. Was wondering if any of you have come across this and knows what it means when he asks this? Sai Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 Venugopal Ramamurthy <venugopal_ramamurthy Sun Aug 1, 2004 10:10pm Re: [saibabanews] Sometimes Baba asks... this is neither heard nor known to me but hidu mythology says wife is 50% our own body you dont distinguish right side from left side both are in perfect harmony and by reflex both act together same logic applicable not the physical form of persons if you extend this logic not only wife, but children and kith andkin also will be part and parcel of our previous births , hence the social conglomeration and living together with perfect understanding, accomodation, compromise is essential for our own survival sairam ---------- Kedar Chintapalli <mkchintapalli Mon Aug 2, 2004 0:43am Re: [saibabanews] Sometimes Baba asks... Sai Ram Sister, I never heard of this. Many a times, with the Madhura Bhakti, lot of "female" , young devotees called themselves and declared in the interview room as Swami as their " Husband'. Swami immediately corrected them as God as the Mother and the Father. I never heard of this!! According to Swami, Wife is Worry Invited For Ever or Wisdom Invited For Ever. Sai Ram, I hope this helps you. saibabanews, Paul Kelly <paulkelly@j...> wrote: > Sometimes Baba asks a devotee to be his wife. Was wondering if any of you have come across this and knows what it means when he asks this? > Sai Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 "vijaya" <svijaya Mon Aug 2, 2004 10:49am Re: [saibabanews] Re: Sometimes Baba asks... Sai ram, Have read in some books of Swami that all humans are females and God is the only male. Can't remember the exact book now. will check at let know. Sai ram ---------- I KP <ikp10350 Mon Aug 2, 2004 2:01pm Re: [saibabanews] Re: Sometimes Baba asks... aum sri sairam , dear brothers and sisters , I have read some books on baba, and have heard him speak , and have heard others direct experiences, but never heard or read anywhere that baba sometimes asks his devotees to be his............for me baba is full of love compassion and kindness, he loves all of us , whether we believe in him or not, he loves the whole world, he is real god for me. As a hindu wife ,we are told to follow the footsteps of our husband and to do our duty as a devoted wife to our husband to share all the sorrows and joys of life , never to forsake our husband under any circumstances, to be honest , if that is what it means then baba wants true devotion from a devotee as a trued devoted INDIAN WIFE AND NOTHING ELSE .These are my thoughts from my own experience , can anyone clear this doubt from the mind of the person , a devotee who has asked for the clarification of the statement for the benefit of all the sai devotees . saibabanews, Paul Kelly <paulkelly@j...> wrote: > Sometimes Baba asks a devotee to be his wife. Was wondering if any of you have come across this and knows what it means when he asks this? > Sai Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 "Vickie Jewell" <vjewell Mon Aug 2, 2004 9:14pm RE: [saibabanews] Re: Sometimes Baba asks... I'm pretty sure it is in "Conversations with Sai Baba" by John Hislop. Not sure of page number.... Sai Ram, vickie ---------- ratna kapoor <ratna110 Tue Aug 3, 2004 3:47am Re: [saibabanews] Re: Sometimes Baba asks... Om Sai Ram Baba is our mata,pita bandhu sakha sai narayana sai narayana. By his grace thousands of thousand people adopt his lessons in their lives.and have a miracle change .First time I went to puttaparthy in june 17th2004.I feel very much close to Baba .how it was happened.Only my belives are strong .I have no interview with Baba but his presence is always with me . Baba did a lot of work for us .We should learn by his life and adopt good thoughts that will help to be a good man . Ratna ratna110 ---------- Paul Kelly <paulkelly Mon Aug 2, 2004 11:53pm Re: [saibabanews] Re: Sometimes Baba asks... Sai Ram, thanks for your comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 sai ram, Swami says each soul is married to God. hence even widows can perform all rites/pujas. I have also read this in a couple of books.. one is "Life is a Game, Play it" by here is an extract from it.. Sathya Sai Vahini pg 87,88 "The Truth about duality - the jivatma (individual soul) and the Paramatma (Oversoul) relationship - is as the wife-husband relationship. the full, free Supreme Vishnu is the husband, the master, the Lord, the ruler, the provider; the individual is the ruled, the dependent, the wife." The author further writes her own experience and how she had a beautiful vision in which she saw Baba's face smiling at her and then gradually fading into husband's face. "the words which filtered out of this experience seemed to come directly from the higher self: 'when u look at your husband, see Me. trust Me to provide your every need through your husband. consider your husband as God. worship Him, minister to him, and follow his desires for the fulfillment of your duty. Nourish and increase your humility and your adoration of your husband. this is the reason you incarnated as a woman. your accomplishment of this task will bring u much nearer your goal of liberation.'" Swami gives different experiences to each individual depending on his needs To some people Swami is like a Father, to some Mother, to some a friend...for Meera He was Husband, for Radha...Lover hope to hear more from other members... In His Service, http://www.saigrace.com saibabanews, "saibabanews_webmaster" <saibaba_news> wrote: > "vijaya" <svijaya@s...> > Mon Aug 2, 2004 10:49am > Re: [saibabanews] Re: Sometimes Baba asks... > > Sai ram, > > Have read in some books of Swami that all humans are females and God > is the only male. Can't remember the exact book now. will check at > let know. > > Sai ram > > ---------- > > I KP <ikp10350> > Mon Aug 2, 2004 2:01pm > Re: [saibabanews] Re: Sometimes Baba asks... > > aum sri sairam , dear brothers and sisters , I have read some books > on baba, and have heard him speak , and have heard others direct > experiences, but never heard or read anywhere that baba sometimes > asks his devotees to be his............for me baba is full of love > compassion and kindness, he loves all of us , whether we believe in > him or not, he loves the whole world, he is real god for me. As a > hindu wife ,we are told to follow the footsteps of our husband and > to do our duty as a devoted wife to our husband to share all the > sorrows and joys of life , never to forsake our husband under any > circumstances, to be honest , if that is what it means then baba > wants true devotion from a devotee as a trued devoted INDIAN WIFE > AND NOTHING ELSE .These are my thoughts from my own experience , > can anyone clear this doubt from the mind of the person , a devotee > who has asked for the clarification of the statement for the > benefit of all the sai devotees . > > > saibabanews, Paul Kelly <paulkelly@j...> > wrote: > > Sometimes Baba asks a devotee to be his wife. Was wondering > if any of you have come across this and knows what it means when he > asks this? > > Sai Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 My Pranams to you all. Assuming that Bhagavan Baba has spoken to a devotee of the relation Paramatma-Jivatma in terms of the relation housband-wife, this is to illustrate the relation between God and the individual according to the Dwaitha Upasana (Dualism). In Sathya Sai Vahini, Baba explains all the Upasanas or Sadhanas. Baba illustrates the Dwaithopasana (Dualism) as follows: "The Upasana of Dwaitha - the Jivatma and the Paramatma relationship is as wife-husband relationship. The Full Free Supreme Vishnu is the husband, the master, the lord, the ruler, the provider; the individual is the ruled, the dependent, the wife. This method of Sadhana has been taught by Madhwacharya. Without devoted attachment to the Lotus Feet of the Lord, that is to say, without Bhakthi, liberation from the cycle of Samsara, why even purity of intellect and emotions, is impossible of attainment. For those who have the spring of ecstatic devotion to the Presence of the Lord within them, though they may not have any texts to ponder over, the very contemplation of the Beauty, Grace and Power of the Lord will give them bliss of superconscious Bhakthi. One cannot discover what prompts the experience. In that ecstatic mood, they discard all sense of shame and personality, and yearn to become the beloved of God, in blissful Union. They will then dance and sing aloud and be merged in genuine joy and Ananda. Sadhana in conformity with this faith has been laid down by Madhwacharya. The agony of the lover to attain the beloved is the true sign of Dwaithopasana. This has been elaborated in a thousand ways by others who came after." [...] "Dwaithopasana (Dualism): The Dualistic outlook on the relationship between God and the individual is that of husband and wife. Vishnu, the Lord, the ever-free, ever-full, has to be adored as the wife adores the husband. Among such sadhakas, Chaithanya is most noteworthy. He established a distinct Chaithanyopasana itself. Without the anguished yearning for the Feet of Lord Krishna liberation cannot be gained. Why? Even purification of one's intelligence is not possible without that yearning. This is the assertion of Chaithanya. He declares that sages and others capable of being immersed in inner bliss can enjoy the ecstasy of the supreme consciousness through the contemplation of the auspicious, restorative and cleansing attributes of the Lord, Sri Hari. No text or scripture is needed for one to realise this bliss. Sunk in the waves of that Divine ecstasy, the person ignores all the norms of social behaviour and escapes from all conventions; he sings aloud the names of Hari, sheds streams of joy, dances in divine delight and experiences unadulterated genuine bliss. He feels that the Lord's Feet have made every inch of ground holy. Thus they sing the glory of the Lord fully attuned to Him. This Sadhana was emphasised, as the easiest and most fruitful, by Chaithanya. His foremost goal was to attain the absence of body-consciousness in the flood of ecstasy that surges from melodious group-singing of the majesty and mercy of the Lord." (Extracts from: Sathya Sai Vahini, by Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba) Sai Ram saibabanews, Paul Kelly <paulkelly@j...> wrote: > Sometimes Baba asks a devotee to be his wife. Was wondering if any > of you have come across this and knows what it means when he asks this? > Sai Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Sai Ram. Beautiful passages. rdthuillier wrote: > My Pranams to you all. > > Assuming that Bhagavan Baba has spoken to a devotee of the relation > Paramatma-Jivatma in terms of the relation housband-wife, this is to > illustrate the relation between God and the individual according to > the Dwaitha Upasana (Dualism). ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 In Jack Hislops book, page 124, there is a conversation about all humans being females and that God is the only male. Sai Ram, vickie "vijaya" <svijaya Mon Aug 2, 2004 10:49am Re: [saibabanews] Re: Sometimes Baba asks... Sai ram, Have read in some books of Swami that all humans are females and God is the only male. Can't remember the exact book now. will check at let know. Sai ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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