Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Sai ram to everyone, please,this is a small request to all Swami's devotees....i need to know if there's any particular saying of Baba regarding marriage...really need it.hoping to get a reply. Sairam. May Swami's blessing always be with you all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 *** Moderator's Note: Messages of August 2004 on this subject can be read below. *** "BS" <saiaum Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:01am Re: [saibabanews] Marriage saying SAIRAM Hope this helps. Some sayings by BABA can be found at site: http://www.saibaba.ws/quotes/marriage.htm ********************************************************************* Sri Sathya Sai Baba Quotations Marriage Before marriage, he is half body. Before marriage, she is half body. Lady is always left side. Right side is gent's. The gent's body is always the right side of the wife. Now you have only one body. In Indian philosophy or custom, this is called ardhangi. (Ardha means half.) Wife before marriage is only ardhangi, half body. Now the left side is joined with the right side and you are full body. (Divine Memories of Sathya Sai Baba) Men should try to understand women, and women should try to understand men. It is the harmony, peace and mutual love between men and women that brings happiness and peace to the family. People want happiness in the family, but they do not lead exemplary lives. The fault lies with both the husband and the wife. (Sri Sathya Sai Baba, Ladies Day Discourse, Nov. 19, 1995) Women should take the correct path then men will follow suit, as it is the women who have to take the leading role. The wife is half of the husband; if she becomes good, then her husband, who is the other half, will also become good (Sri Sathya Sai Baba, Ladies Day Discourse, Nov. 19, 1995) Love is life for man and love is everything in this world. It is love that shines brilliantly in every individual. But man, not being able to comprehend the significance of love attributes physical relationship to it. The love of a mother towards her child is affection. The love that exists between wife and husband is infatuation. The love that exists among friends and relations is attachment. The love towards material objects is desire. Love in totality, directed towards God is known as devotion. (Sri Sathya Sai Baba, Guru Poornima Discourse, Aug. 3, 1999) Marriage means your whole life, a whole lifetime together, not just a few days, or a few weeks, or a few years. (Golden Age, pp. 140-143) ********************************************************************* Thanks ---------- Kishor Nanwani <saiyug Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:00pm Re: [saibabanews] Marriage saying Sai Ram.. Pls. try this and see if it helps...Please go to http://www.sathyasai.org and there is a search programme for all the vahinis and Swami´s Discourses uptil 2002.. With Love in Sai Service ---------- Jatindar Shad <egreatindia Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:24pm Re: [saibabanews] Marriage saying Sai Ram Prasnita, As per Baba, Marriage is a 'give' and 'take' of our karmic dues to each other. When these karmic dues are paid back full - it will result is the passing-on of the one of the partners - so Divorce are artificial - you seperate from each other, but, with the karmic dues still remaining - divorce only delays the karmic re-payment. For this karmic repayment both partners have to come together again - in this birth or in the future. And in the interim, that is between the divorce and coming back together - both partners do more karmas - to effect the circumstances of the repayment at a later date. Some years ago I had written an article on Marriage, as explained by Swami - would the forum members be interested! Sai Ram - Be Happy JP ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------- "Anica" <ljubve Mon Feb 21, 2005 0:09am RE: [saibabanews] Marriage saying OM SAI RAM OM... BHAGAVAN SATHYA SAI BABA OM... Dear Prasnita, with Love and Swami's blessing always with us.... Anica "Charlene" Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:31pm Re: [saibabanews] Swami and marriage Sai Ram! Swami has a lot to say about the institution of marriage. The following are quotes taken from the book A Compendium of the Teachings of Sathya Sai Baba: MARRIAGE "Marriage is for the sake of pursuing dharma. It is not for enjoying worldly pleasures.....The same pleasures are experienced by street dogs. Is that happiness?" SS May 1996 P 121 "In the modern world, youth should know the nature of true love. Many from abroad mix with persons of the opposite sex, calling them boy friend and girl friend. If you really love each other, you must get married and not continue living as friends." SS August 1997 P 212 "The antecedents of families were fully examined in the past before marital alliances were concluded. But today these factors are ignored. People are indifferent to family backgrounds, while they are concerned about *the pedigrees of dogs in dog shows! This indifference to lineage accounts for the breakup of many marriages after a short time. This should not happen. Marriage should be a lifelong partnership." SS Jan 1996 P 14 "Before one is married, one does not know anything about the attitudes of one's own wife. Prior to the marriage, whatever difficulty the girl may come across, the husband is not going to worry about it. But once the marriage is performed, even if the wife has a small pain or difficulty, the husband also suffers great sorrow. The truth becomes clear from this example that these sorrows and difficulties come half-way in our life, and they are not natural to us." "Marriage is like milk and sugar. Men are the milk; ladies are the sugar.....Milk by itself is just protein. Sugar alone is just taste. They must be mixed together to give both taste and protein. "In the Hindu culture, the wife is called half of the husband.....Marriage is a sacred bond and it is a promise you are making to each other because the wife is half husband and the husband is half of the wife. Half plus half is not two but one. "Selflessness is God. The self which is selfless is God. To feel `mine' and `thine' is ego. Ego is very harmful. It is to kill the ego that two souls are brought together. They can learn to adjust to one another and forget their egos. "Marriage means your life, a whole lifetime together, not just a few days or a few weeks, or a few years.....Marriage is a training ground for fostering transensual love. Life is like a ring. The ring is the heart; when that is given, the gift is the heart itself. That is the sacred bond. "Today there is the tendency of separation, not coming together. Life is full of troubles and challenges. We should not separate ourselves because of these but rather face them together. Now when trouble comes, even if it is small, it separates us. That should not be the tendency, one should give one's heart to another." GA P 140- 143 "Marriage is the joining together or bringing together of a man and a woman for the sake of progeny. People should exercise discipline and control in married life. That is why it is said there can be no glory or achievement without discipline. Before marriage, he is half body. Before marriage, she is half body. Lady is always left side. Right side is gent's. The gent's body is always the right side of the wife. Now you have only one body. In Indian philosophy or custom this is called ardhangi. (Ardha means half). Wife before marriage is only ardhangi, half body. Now the left side is joined with the right side and you are full body. "In the future, husband's troubles are wife's troubles and wife's troubles become the husbands's. It is like, if one part of the body is paralyzed, the other part of the body feels the paralysis. And so, your wife must feel your pains and you must feel her pains. Both of your pains are removed by Swami. Both husband should help wife and wife should help husband. "Sometimes, it is natural for you to have adjustment and understanding. First you must understand each other. After that, adjustment will be easy. First understanding. Second adjustment. Ninety percent of people try adjustment first. This is wrong way around. First understanding." VS P 129-130 "Animal qualities mean excessive desires. `I want this.' `I want that.' Mankind is bound by desires. For example, a young man has two legs, and he is single. After some time he says `I want to be married.' Desires start; he gets married. Now how many legs does he have? He has four. So long as he had two legs, he walked wherever he wanted. But after marriage, he has four legs; he lost some independence. After some time, he says he wants a son. Desires continue; he has a son. Then there are six legs; he is now more and more bound with six legs. Later he says, `I want a daughter.' Then there are eight legs. When he has eight legs, he becomes fearful. Because of fear, he wants to hide. As the number of legs go on increasing, bondage increases. Where did he get the bondage? It was the result of desires. Therefore, control your desires. In Vedantic parlance, this is called detachment or renunciation." SSN Spring 1995 P 17 "Everyone wants to achieve happiness and makes all sorts of efforts for this purpose without knowing where to find it. He thinks he can get happiness when he gets a job to earn his livelihood and pursues his studies only with this end in view. After he gets a job, he is still not happy. He wants to get married. He marries and sets up a family. Even then there is no happiness. He wants progeny. He gets a child. Still he is not happy. He wants promotion so that he can earn more to maintain his family. He gets it. Even then he is not happy. And he goes on like that in quest of happiness that eludes him. Happiness is not there in all these attainments or possessions. It is only in the heart within. He is himself the embodiment of happiness. Yet, without realizing this, he goes on seeking happiness elsewhere." SS May 1994 P 124 "When one chooses a life-partner now-a-days, the first consideration is paid to external beauty and charm. Next the economic position is taken as the basis. How rich is he or she? How much does he or she earn? Questions like, how far they are educated, what is the social status of the families to which they belong are asked later. Carried off by mere external frills and foppery, people enter into wedlock, and get entangled in misery or a destructive family life. The family cannot be stable if it is built on such a slender foundation. Prime importance has to be paid to the fundamental requisites of a good character, high ideals of tolerance and forbearance, love and service. When beauty fades or wealth wanes, the bond too becomes less strong." SSS VOL VIII Chap 51 P 266 "Marriage means your life, a whole lifetime together, not just a few days, or a few weeks, or a few years. Marriage means one's character. Marriage is not like changing one's bush shirt. Marriage is an eternal bond. In the Hindu culture the wife is called half of the husband. She also is called the one who looks to the righteousness of the household and she is called the one who brings auspiciousness, everything that is good. "When a child cries it is given sweet meats. In the same way for human beings, who are governed by the senses, God has created this union of marriage so to satisfy them. It is for self-control that two individuals get married. Selflessness is God. Or, self which is selflessness is God. To feel mine and thine is ego. Ego is very harmful. It is to kill the ego in us that two souls are brought together so they can learn to adjust to one another and forget their egos. Mutual understanding is very important for marriage. Now understanding actually is forgotten and one tries to adjust, therefore the main adjustment problem. Real understanding should be there and adjustment is no good without real understanding with it. The most important thing is to understand. Then adjustment becomes something very easy later on. Both of you have got to understand each other. Do not think in the past, let bygones be bygones. There might have been misunderstandings but don't regret over it. Don't anticipate the future because we do not now understand each other. After that, adjustment will be easy. First understanding. Second adjustment. Ninety percent of people try adjustment first. This is wrong way around. First understanding." VS P 129-130 "Animal qualities mean excessive desires. `I want this.' `I want that.' Mankind is bound by desires. For example, a young man has two legs, and he is single. After some time he says `I want to be married.' Desires start; he gets married. Now how many legs does he have? He has four. So long as he had two legs, he walked wherever he wanted. But after marriage, he has four legs; he lost some independence. After some time, he says he wants a son. Desires continue; he has a son. Then there are six legs; he is now more and more bound with six legs. Later he says, `I want a daughter.' Then there are eight legs. When he has eight legs, he becomes fearful. Because of fear, he wants to hide. As the number of legs go on increasing, bondage increases. Where did he get the bondage? It was the result of desires. Therefore, control your desires. In Vedantic parlance, this is called detachment or renunciation." SSN Spring 1995 P 17 "Everyone wants to achieve happiness and makes all sorts of efforts for this purpose without knowing where to find it. He thinks he can get happiness when he gets a job to earn his livelihood and pursues his studies only with this end in view. After he gets a job, he is still not happy. He wants to get married. He marries and sets up a family. Even then there is no happiness. He wants progeny. He gets a child. Still he is not happy. He wants promotion so that he can earn more to maintain his family. He gets it. Even then he is not happy. And he goes on like that in quest of happiness that eludes him. Happiness is not there in all these attainments or possessions. It is only in the heart within. He is himself the embodiment of happiness. Yet, without realizing this, he goes on seeking happiness elsewhere." SS May 1994 P 124 "When one chooses a life-partner now-a-days, the first consideration is paid to external beauty and charm. Next the economic position is taken as the basis. How rich is he or she? How much does he or she earn? Questions like, how far they are educated, what is the social status of the families to which they belong are asked later. Carried off by mere external frills and foppery, people enter into wedlock, and get entangled in misery or a destructive family life. The family cannot be stable if it is built on such a slender foundation. Prime importance has to be paid to the fundamental requisites of a good character, high ideals of tolerance and forbearance, love and service. When beauty fades or wealth wanes, the bond too becomes less strong." SSS VOL VIII Chap 51 P 266 "Marriage means your life, a whole lifetime together, not just a few days, or a few weeks, or a few years. Marriage means one's character. Marriage is not like changing one's bush shirt. Marriage is an eternal bond. In the Hindu culture the wife is called half of the husband. She also is called the one who looks to the righteousness of the household and she is called the one who brings auspiciousness, everything that is good. "When a child cries it is given sweet meats. In the same way for human beings, who are governed by the senses, God has created this union of marriage so to satisfy them. It is for self-control that two individuals get married. Selflessness is God. Or, self which is selflessness is God. To feel mine and thine is ego. Ego is very harmful. It is to kill the ego in us that two souls are brought together so they can learn to adjust to one another and forget their egos. Mutual understanding is very important for marriage. Now understanding actually is forgotten and one tries to adjust, therefore the main adjustment problem. Real understanding should be there and adjustment is no good without real understanding with it. The most important thing is to understand. Then adjustment becomes something very easy later on. Both of you have got to understand each other. Do not think in the past, let bygones be bygones. There might have been misunderstandings but don't regret over it. Don't anticipate the future because we do not now what the future will be. Live in the moment and do one's best. This is a sacred bond and it's a promise you are making to each other because wife is half of husband and husband is half of the wife. Half plus half equals one. "Before marriage you were an individual `I' and she was an individual `I'. Now `I' plus `I' becomes we. You are not I but we. In all difficulties, all joy, all sorrow and in all the pleasures of life, you are not individualized. When husband gets into trouble, the wife shouldn't think he but we. We. This is the real sacred promise. Life is like a ring. Compare the ring to the heart. Now you are giving your heart to him and he is giving his heart to you. That's the real sacred bond." JTG Part II P 248 "Attempting to hide one's meanness and wickedness and putting on the mask of goodness, justifying one's faults and exaggerating one's attainments these are also poisonous traits. Equally poisonous is the habit of ignoring the good in others and assiduously seeking only their faults." Vidya Vahini P 79 --------- sandhya Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:22pm Re: [saibabanews] Swami and marriage Sairam, You may try Rita Bruce's book- VISION OF SAI- part 1. It's a beautiful book and explains in detail why marriage is important and how to make the relationship spiritual.I'll mail you again if i come across some more good info. Love Sandhya ---------- "Vani" Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:41pm RE: [saibabanews] Swami and marriage Regarding marriage, Swami says, Understanding is the most important thing; Use marriage to tackle your egos. Being Sai Baba devotee is the best thing that has ever happened to me and my marriage. The more I follow Sai teachings, the more my husband showers his love on me. I certainly think that we shine in Sai's glory. Vani ---------- For a Marriage there must be a Husband In a small village there was to be a marriage. The lady of the home where the marriage was to be celebrated, told the neighboring lady, "Dear friend, we are planning to celebrate a marriage at our house in a grand way. We have invited a famous Bombay band. We have also invited a number of noted singers. Several highly gifted cooks will come to prepare food for the occasion. We are planning to put up a very big marriage tent. It will be a truly grand affair. Please come. You will greatly enjoy this marriage. It will be a unique celebration." After hearing all these things, the neighbor lady said, "O, how wonderful. I certainly will come." Then she inquired, "Please tell me, who is the bridegroom?" At this the lady replied, "Well, that has not yet been decided." For a marriage, the bridegroom is a very important person. If the bridegroom has not been selected, who will be married in the marriage tent? What good is the fine band and cooks and singers and priests when there is no one to be married? First the bridegroom must be chosen, then all these other things take on value. In the same way, if there is no peace of mind, what is the use of having learned so many things? The wise sage told Narada, "Only by acquiring atmic knowledge can you obtain peace of mind." Today's man is an easy prey for attachment and hatred. He is overwhelmed by the possessive nature and filled with ego. Just look at the state he is in and what he is doing! He considers himself to be the most important being in the world. He deludes himself with the feeling that there is no one greater than he. Because of this delusion he has lost his power of discrimination, and so he has not even been able to reflect on his own confused state. He considers that it is he who is doing everything. He thinks that he can hire the whole world and do with it as he pleases. But it is not he who is running the world. He does not have that power, neither for good nor for evil. The one who is the creator of this world, the one who is the protector of this world, the one who is the father of this world, the one who is the mother of this world, the one who is the Lord of this world... only he has the power and the authority to run it. For this entire moveable and immovable world, th! ere is only one master. This is an all important truth that every human being must recognize. http://www.atmapress.com/saibabagita/saigita352.html Sai Baba Gita, Compiled and edited by Al Drucker - Published by Atma Press - http://www.atmapress.com - ISBN: 0963844903 Online Edition: http://www.atmapress.com/saibabagita/index.html ---------- "Ajith Sankar" <ajithstudyingmba Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:08am Re: [saibabanews] Marriage saying Sairam Sister Prasnita, There indeed is. Some of them you can find at http://www.saibaba.ws/quotes/marriage.htm i also recollect some discussions in this mailgroup somewhere in the month of August-September about Swami's quotes on Marriage. Some of the devotees in the mailgroup initiated that discussion. You can request the moderator to provide you with the link. Namaste... ---------- saibabanews, prasnita <prasnita2003> wrote: > Sai ram to everyone,.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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