Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 donthuswetha: sairam sathyasaikishore: SUNITHA ..U should start.... pranagrd: sairam pranagrd: lets start now donthuswetha: ok sunitha_pl: swetha give ur intro donthuswetha: i am from hyderabad donthuswetha: i got married and came to chicago in june donthuswetha: i am doing my masters in computer science engineering sathyasaikishore: Thatz nice .... pranagrd: ok rameshbodla: sairam i think introduction is enough...let's start.. donthuswetha: i was very happy seeing mail about satsung donthuswetha: because here i don't know any satsungs pranagrd: yes ramesh.... donthuswetha: swami bhajan group prerna11w: Sai Ram every one ! sunitha_pl: sairam ramprasadvk: Sai Ram kuta17: Sairam All pranagrd: i will start with a story told by sai sunitha_pl: sairam donthuswetha: sairam sunitha_pl: ok pranagrd: once sai asked a question to his students pranagrd: " WHO AM I? " pranagrd: then he told tht who answers this question correctly pranagrd: will get chocalates pranagrd: so many students shouted " SAI U r lord " pranagrd: baba replied " NO u r not correct" pranagrd: then some of them replied " U r shiva shakti swaroopa sunitha_pl: ok pranagrd: baba again said no pranagrd: then one more answer came pranagrd: " sai u r the protector of the universe" pranagrd: then baba again said no saiptc: thnk sunitha pranagrd: like this so many gave their answers pranagrd: baba replied to evryone NO pranagrd: then finally baba himself answered the question pranagrd: can anyone guess wht was baba's answer? pranagrd: ?? saiptc: sorry saiptc: i was booted sunitha_pl: Sarva Devatatita swaroopa donthuswetha: he said i is i saiptc: whts the origianl q/ pranagrd: swetha u got it right saiptc: i think i read this in our group today kuta17: You and i Are one! pranagrd: he said " I AM I" pranagrd: yes, it came in sai only sunitha_pl: ok donthuswetha: i read this,so i know pranagrd: ok saiptc: me too kuta17: do we go around introducing ourselves or how does this work? saiptc: sorry saiptc: v already did saiptc: v'll know eachother as we keep talking ramprasadvk: thats good pranagrd: ok ramprasadvk: can u elobrate I am I prerna11w: whast teh topic for discussion today ? is there any ? saiptc: sure saiptc: let that b the topic for today saiptc: 'I am I" pranagrd: yes pranagrd: thts good pranagrd: so lets start prerna11w: hmmm :-?? saiptc: is it ok bro 7 sis? rameshbodla: yes kuta17: great... ramprasadvk: good saiptc: who am i? saiptc: i m i? saiptc: wht does that mean? prerna11w: I = us or Him ? saiptc: its "I" saiptc: god rajugurbaxani1: I is God saiptc: it conveys that there is no duality saiptc: but only oneness pranagrd: right saitpc ramprasadvk: is it something like saying "AHAM BRAHMASMI" kuta17: If the ego part is removed... I is the Para Brahman saipapu: sairam to alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll my sai family members pranagrd: "I Want Peace". Remove "I"- the ego, "Want" - the desire and then what will be left is peace saiptc: welcome late comer saiptc: yes saipapu: :x yes i am later comer prerna11w: saipapu: sorry... late comer saiptc: better alte than never saiptc: join us saipapu: as Swami has not given me any spare time.... ramprasadvk: WELL SAID saipapu: to mingle with you people.. saipapu: my life is hectic... saipapu: saiptc: topic is " i am I" prerna11w: talking about the *I*......i want to know what the second *I* means ? pranagrd: duty is GOD. work is worship.. dont worry saipapu saiptc: both mean the same thing saipapu: ho are you prana ? raju bhai ? ramesh bhai ? sunita and prerna ????? prerna11w: and teh same thing is ? ramprasadvk: thats same as the first one sunitha_pl: i am fine sairam saiptc: if v can identify the first I with the second I the feeling of duality goes away prerna11w: yes saipapu... prerna11w: am fine too thanks hope u r doing good ! rameshbodla: yes there is no second i...just the second is the repitation of first i saipapu: yes sister.. saipapu: tks prerna11w: why the need for teh repitition then ? pranagrd: first I resembles the Jeevatama and second the paramatma kuta17: the repetition should have an inner significance.. prerna11w: i ask ramesh pranagrd: Jeevatma is Paramatma pranagrd: thts why we have I AM I ramprasadvk: its like a mirror image.... ie., u can see ur self prerna11w: ahan saiptc: thats it pranagrd: Sai said.. pranagrd: Children of immortality.. u r created in my likeness and image kuta17: yes... Thats why when we meditate we need to have the index finger and thumb touching each other... That signifies the unison of the Two. saiptc: now lets elaborate the practical version of this in today's modern day to day lie prerna11w: yeah... prerna11w: so how would you apply it practically ? saiptc: i meant "life" sathyasaikishore: I think ... I have to leave now .... SAI RAM to ALL.... sunitha_pl: sairam saikiran83: sairam everyone saiptc: the satsangh is on saiptc: pls join ramprasadvk: Sai Ram saiptc: skip formalities saikiran83: carry on saiptc: do join us rameshbodla: yes its right we should not waste time in formalities saiptc: so...continue kuta17: in the practical world, selfless service will help us remove the "I-Ego" so can see the inner "I" saiptc: practical application of the grrr8 philosophy prerna11w: now...i have a doubt here saiptc: "I am I" pranagrd: to practice this principle we have to do wht baba says: prerna11w: there are instances where people are proud of their selfless service to others pranagrd: he continued the first stmt like this: saiptc: whts the doubt? prerna11w: doesnt it feed teh ego than remove it? pranagrd: Children of Immortality! Remember that You are created in My Image and Likeness. Perfect. Live up to this Image in all planes. Live like Masters! Walk this Earth with Your Heads held high, Your Spirits soaring, Your Hearts open to Love, and believe in Yourself and GOD with You. Then all will go well. See Me everywhere, talk to Me and Love Me who is in Each. Then from Each I will respond and bring You into Glory. saiptc: yes prerna saiptc: but it should not prerna11w: i know it shouldnt... saiptc: real seva results in annihilation of ego pranagrd: ego arrives when u think tht u have done it saiptc: not multiplicity pranagrd: just think it is done by sai and observe the difference kuta17: Yes! prerna11w: ahan ! saikiran83: I wanna add one qoute..swami said pranagrd: when the I comes into picture it always has EGO element with it saiptc: sure saikiran83: some1 asked.."swami till whn should we do service" pranagrd: go ahead saikiran saikiran83: swami replied " till u forget ur doing service" vasantha_v: sairam sunitha_pl: sairam thts nice vasantha_v: sairam saiptc: cool saikiran83: so bacially..tht ego should go.. pranagrd: right saikiran ramprasadvk: good saikiran saiptc: yes prerna11w: hmmm... i get the meaning of service here ! vasantha_v: may i know please whats your experience with our swami pranagrd: but u see its not easy.. it requires a lot of effort saikiran83: one more story swami told us....seva oka bhavam pranagrd: and we have to ask god to give us tht dedication and sincerity pranagrd: instead of asking for petty and wordly things prerna11w: cud u translate oka bhavam pls ? pranagrd: oka bhavam means one meaning... rameshbodla: sairam if we develops the feeling that we are doing seva for sai not for the human beings then automatically the ego goes out prerna11w: pranav...though i fully agree with what u said...dont we, at a personal level, do 'want' those worldly things ? saikiran83: no one of our brothers asked about seva.. and swami replied thru a story vasantha_v: sairam pranagrd: see sai always said these stmts prerna11w: ;-? prerna11w: :-? pranagrd: 4 sorts of ppl are always drawn towards me... pranagrd: 1. distressed. pranagrd: 2. ppl who want wordly things pranagrd: 3. ppl who want to understand their purpose of life pranagrd: 4. ppl who seek liberation pranagrd: distressed ppl are always the first to approach god saiptc: nice rameshbodla: yes this was told bhagwatgita also prerna11w: isnt it the same as four kinds of devotees ? posted by Arun ? pranagrd: may be... pranagrd: i haven't read the post by arun prerna11w: am sorry...but i still am confused about my doubt pranagrd: yes.. coming to ur question vasantha_v: i am waiting pranagrd: when do we really WANT things? vasantha_v: for u prerna11w: good question prerna11w: :-? ramprasadvk: when we are really in need of it prerna11w: when we desire for them ! pranagrd: why u desire for them? vasantha_v: are u answering to my question rameshbodla: if we are not satisfied with them rameshbodla: then only we wants them prerna11w: i think Ram...we at times want things even when we dont need tehm...eg : lots of money etc ramprasadvk: to serve our basic purpose saikiran83: nothing wrong in having a desire..but just see there is a cieling for tht pranagrd: right... saikiran saipapu: desires have no limit...... i feel sunitha_pl: well we should pray for divine things rather than normal things saiptc: hahhah saipapu: only wants have a ceiling or limit prerna11w: and thats why they are desires...as some one rightly said..the only thing i desire is to get rid of my desire ! saipapu: pranagrd: wonderful prerna pranagrd: desire arise of attachment pranagrd: attachment arise thru likeness pranagrd: likeness arise thru karma prerna11w: i agree with SaiPapu ramprasadvk: again there is a desire in it prerna11w: saikiran83: yea saipapu: desires has no end... saiptc: only 1 desire ..swami says saipapu: your 'wants' can have an end.. saipapu: so Mahatma gandhi told.. saiptc: Desire for Moksha saipapu: there is enough in this world for human's need saipapu: but there is no limit is human's greed... saipapu: SAIPTC... rameshbodla: no we should pray for divine nothing other than this...once swami told who desires me, he is only my true devotee prerna11w: sorry to contradict u saiptc...but its easier said than done : to desire for moksha rameshbodla: even if we desire moksha.. rameshbodla: it may not possible for all saipapu: Swami said MOKSHA = Moha + kshyaya rameshbodla: but desiring swami is possible...for all saiptc: right pappu saipapu: detached from any desire is Moksha saikiran83: yea prerna11w: yeah ...i agree with ramesh bodla rameshbodla: if swami with us then we can live any no of births so easily and happy until we get liberation saiptc: so u see prerna its not that impossible as it appears to b prerna11w: u mean to say that swami = moksha :-\ pranagrd: ramesh swamy is always with us.. in us around us and evrywhew saiptc: well...SWAMI is with us pranagrd: only thing is tht rameshbodla: yes swami is there saipapu: Once Swami said rameshbodla: but do u know saiptc: right now and here pranagrd: we have to realize it a rameshbodla: how many of us have feeeling this rameshbodla: and realising this pranagrd: right ramesh saipapu: Everybody wants / loves Swami but he should introspect whether Swami loves him.. pranagrd: yesterday i had a discussion with one of my frndz on this prerna11w: i agree ... saipapu: so we should always introspect... rameshbodla: first all of us have to pray for living in divine conceousness rameshbodla: its no doubt swami is there every where rameshbodla: but many times we don't feel divine conceousness pranagrd: thts why we have to follow a 4 path suggested by swamy:::::::> to seek for liberation prerna11w: and the path is ? ramprasadvk: yad bhavam- tat bhavathi.... if u think swamy is with u, he is with u pranagrd: 1. Path to TRUTH pranagrd: 2. Path to UNITY pranagrd: 3. PATH to LOVE pranagrd: 4. PATH to Liberation rameshbodla: yes prerna11w: ahan ..i like it ramprasad =D> pranagrd: first and foremost we have to realize wht is TRUTH? rameshbodla: even still many of them runs towards swami when he enters kulwanthall for darshan.. rameshbodla: but we should not like that prerna11w: these are the destinations if am not wrong...what are teh paths then ? rameshbodla: we have to develop heart to heart relationship pranagrd: i will tell u pranagrd: path to truth.. wht is it? pranagrd: truth has three forms: TRUTH, SATYAM and RUTHAM pranagrd: wht is TRUTH? prerna11w: k saikiran83: path for everything is one.. seva seva seva prerna11w: the absence of lie is truth ! pranagrd: TRUTH is one which exists only for certain time pranagrd: like today is cloudy pranagrd: tmw is rainy pranagrd: each holds for each time saikiran83: yea pranagrd: SATYAM is something which exits in one creation pranagrd: or till the universe exists pranagrd: for eg pranagrd: god is there in all pranagrd: then comes RUTHAM pranagrd: rutham refers to which is always correct pranagrd: for eg pranagrd: god is timeless and eternal pranagrd: rutham refers to soemthing which is beyond this universe pranagrd: rutham is the real truth.. pranagrd: so our first path will be realize this rutham ramprasadvk: sorry to interupt u... what is the meaning of the word RUTHAM saikiran83: ic sunitha_pl: sairam pranagrd: so realize that god is absolute(neither good nor bad), timeless and eternal sai_vithal: Sai Ram pranagrd: once we realize this then we proceed for the next path pranagrd: path to unity sai_vithal: ok sunitha_pl: swamy told prashanthi nilayam is not my home my home is ur heart saiptc: rutham is beyound time and space pranagrd: when we realize tht god is present evrywhere and in all pranagrd: we find that everyone is the same like you pranagrd: like ur image rameshbodla: yes ...swami also told that closeness with me does't comes with physcial closeness pranagrd: and u realize the unity which exists in all pranagrd: when u relaize this untiy then comes next stage pranagrd: path to love pranagrd: when u realize evryone is you pranagrd: then u get no hatred pranagrd: no want pranagrd: no desires pranagrd: no attachment saiptc: kindly lsien caefully to pranav saikiran83: in fact being physically.. close.. to swami.. is a tough job..its like..being close to fire saiptc: carry on pranav saiptc: i like wht u say pranagrd: and this results in DIVINE LOVE sunitha_pl: swamy told when ever ur speaking remember that God is on other persons heart pranagrd: and this is wht swamy wants from all of us pranagrd: when we realize this, we finally move to next path pranagrd: path to liberation prerna11w: talking of its practical implications prerna11w: how can you feel divine love for a person who doesnt feel teh same for you ? pranagrd: right prerna pranagrd: this was the question u asked in last satsang i hope pranagrd: practical implications exist bcoz of our KARMA we carry on with us in each and evry life saiptc: love is for love's sake saiptc: no buts or then saiptc: "love w/o duty is divine" pranagrd: u see why some ppl dont think of god pranagrd: some think of god sometimes sai_vithal: Divine love is something which you do by not expecting in return sunitha_pl: If u speak 10 times with love then 11th time the other person will speak politely saikiran83: yea pranagrd: some always and some very rarely pranagrd: this is all bcoz of the karma and maaya itself saikiran83: just see god in everyone saikiran83: see the positve side in everyone pranagrd: when we are created we are always pure pranagrd: its like a river sai_vithal: yes pranagrd: which is absolutely pure at its origin prerna11w: i agree with all of oyu here...but thers still a 'but' sunitha_pl: Ys ur right Maya will change eeverones llife pranagrd: when it travels thru its course to unite in ocean pranagrd: it flows thru different paths prerna11w: dont people take you for granted and take disadvantage of ur forgiving and kind nature then ? pranagrd: there might be deviations and there might be difficulties saikiran83: yeah..coming to karma..I have a story to share from mahabharata saipapu: yes pran u r right... thats why pranagrd: if the river is successfull itslef to cross these hurdles pranagrd: it reaches the ocean pranagrd: but on the course saipapu: Swami always address us "DIVYATMASWARUP LARA..." sunitha_pl: do remember swamy is in other persons heart saipapu: Embodiment of divine love. prerna11w: ok 1 saipapu: Swami always speaks truth... saipapu: So we are love and pure.. pranagrd: it has to add weight .. means water content pranagrd: so tht it can push along the hurdles pranagrd: hurdles are presented to make u stronger pranagrd: as u move closer to lord u face evryone acting opp to you pranagrd: but dont do wht they di pranagrd: do pranagrd: but instead love them sunitha_pl: Start the Day with Love; Spend the Day with Love; Fill the Day with Love; End the Day with Love; This is the way to God. kiran_gunda_2000: sairam to all pranagrd: this love adds weight to release ur karma pranagrd: we have to add weight just like a river to release our karma prerna11w: thanks pranav...i got the answer pranagrd: karma presents us all the obstacles saipapu: welcome kiran bhai pranagrd: indeed these r the ones which we ourselves created bcoz of ignorance kiran_gunda_2000: yes sairam pranagrd: so we have to strive towrds tht path ramprasadvk: so Do we have to perform the Karmas or Not?? saikiran83: we need to suffer..for our mistakes for sure pranagrd: right saikiran pranagrd: but we can ask god to release us frm this karma prerna11w: could any one clear the nuance of Karma please saikiran83: one devote asked..what is the use of swami and his teaching if he cant liberate us frm the karma pranagrd: and why selfless seva? saipapu: welcome pratap bhai pranagrd: this is one way to help us ourselves to release frm this karma pranagrd: indeed by doing seva we r helping ourselves pranagrd: not other persons pranagrd: but be careful here pranagrd: if this seva is done with some selfish thoughts pranagrd: it adds double negative weight pratapthakkar: sairams papu saipapu: sairam prerna11w: so ...eventually it isnt so selfless ..is it pranav ? saikiran83: swami said..he never relivies anyone of his karma... but he will make feel happy even when we r suffering rameshbodla: yes all of we should karma...but we don't anticipate for the results... pranagrd: and swamy also says: obstacles are presented to you to bring u closer to me saikiran83: yeah but once u get started in seva tht selfishnedd automatically goes rameshbodla: and we should do with a feeling to please the swami rameshbodla: but not any other sunitha_pl: If you place complete faith in the Lord at all times, you will receive His Grace. Grace takes away the pain of Karma. The Lord can save man completely from Karma. saikiran83: right sunita pranagrd: when u face these obstacles with happiness.. we r relieved of evrything.. this is the essence prerna11w: mans adversity is Gods opportunity ! saikiran83: but we need to go through the ressults pranagrd: as saikiran pointed out pranagrd: god never relieves us from karma rameshbodla: yes when we recieves lords grace law of karma also don't applies pranagrd: we ourselves have to do it pranagrd: by following his path pranagrd: there is a wonderful story in this context prerna11w: hmmm saipapu: Ramesh bhai saikiran83: does anyone know why dhritirashtra..suffered from loosing 100 sons at one go saipapu: i feel Law of Karma applies to everybody.. pranagrd: a story b/w a barber and a person visiting his sho[p pranagrd: i posted this in satya sai community.. rameshbodla: no..in case of bhakta prahallada sunitha_pl: ok continue saipapu: God when takes birth in this world he is also subject to law of karma... donthuswetha: once swami said " The benefits derived from prayer and good actions may not be visible to the naked eye, yet benefits do accrue in the form of God’s grace pranagrd: right saipapu pranagrd: right swetha donthuswetha: Just as pills can lose their power after their date of expiry, likewise the consequences of one’s actions are inevitable, be they good or bad, but divine grace will let their effects lapse. saipapu: i heard, Swami chidananda Saraswati... pranagrd: go ahead saikiran saikiran83: ok saipapu: because Lord Rama had killed Bali which was wrong... prerna11w: ahan .... saipapu: in the birth of Lord Krishna, he had to be died by arrow... rameshbodla: but in case of bhakta prahallada saikiran83: in ancient days..having a son.. was supposed to be a big deal..like one needs to do punyam for that rameshbodla: b'coz of his bhakti rameshbodla: law of karma not applied rameshbodla: there saikiran83: but dhritirashtra.. had 100 sons.. and lost them... ???? rameshbodla: what u say in this case prerna11w: could you pls elaborate ramesh ? saipapu: Prahallad ... did he do any wrong ? prerna11w: na rameshbodla: actually prahallada life has to end at the age of 16 pranagrd: we dont knwo tht rameshbodla: but b'coz his great devotion saipapu: Because of his bhakti, he was saved from all eventualities... pranagrd: we r not the right ppl to say he has done something good or bad saipapu: ohhhh prerna11w: ahan pranagrd: he is wonderful bhakta saikiran83: is it prahalada or markandeya saipapu: i did not know that.. saipapu: Markandeya i think saikiran83: yea rameshbodla: yes sorry he is markandeaya rameshbodla: not prahallada prerna11w: pranagrd: ok sunitha_pl: ok saikiran83: it seems dhritrashtra..40 lifes prior to his life saipapu: Yes... pranagrd: infact my spiritual inclination started after i saw a telugu fim on prahlada story rameshbodla: what i want to say is some time god can change law of karma also rameshbodla: if he wishes to change prerna11w: ahan ! rameshbodla: means he can extend one's life if he wishes ramprasadvk: what does law of karma says..... so many here may not be knowing... pls explain ramesh saipapu: God can only change fate... rameshbodla: for every action there will be a corresponding reaction sunitha_pl: swamy told if u store punya in god's bank god will give his help in all Janmas pranagrd: The message of KARMA or action was first given by Lord Krishna on the morning of the epic battle Mahabharatha – between the forces of Good and Evil. pranagrd: KARMA means action.. pranagrd: when u do an action there is always a reaction kiran_gunda_2000: Karma is a sum of all that an individual has done, is currently doing and will do. The effects of those deeds and these deeds actively create present and future experiences, thus making one responsible for one's own life, and the pain in others. In religions that incorporate reincarnation, karma extends through one's present life and all past and future lives as well. pranagrd: All our THOUGHTS, WORDS and ACTS or in one word ALL OUR ACTIONS that collectively effect and result in our birth – rebirth and joy and sorrow. KARMA IS INEVITABLE, ONE HAS TO DO SOME KARMA OR OTHER. NOT FOR A SINGLE MOMENT CAN ONE FREE ONESELF FROM KARMA. pranagrd: Man is born out of Karma Man grows in Karma Man dies in Karma Karma is the guiding force for human beings Karma is the cause for pleasure and pain Swami Says – “Do not take Karma lightly – you entire life depends on Karma.” rameshbodla: yes..but if we win's god's grace then god may change the karma balance.. saikiran83: yea saikiran83: did i complete that story pranagrd: continue saikiran saikiran83: so dhritirashtra..after killing 100 birds..did punya in his next 39 lives.. punyam equal to get 100 sons.. and in the next life has 100 sons..and losses all of them saikiran83: tht is the law of karma.. pranagrd: right saikiran pranagrd: action - reaction saikiran83: yea this is a rare story frm mahabharata which isnt there anywer.. but our beloved bhagwan told.. some students i guess pranagrd: swamy says the first and foremost obstacle is EGO pranagrd: wht is EGO? pranagrd: Criticizing other or finding faults with others and self-praise is the EGO game. EGO is untruth. EGO is what prevents us from getting close to GOD. CAUSES YOU TO CONSIDER YOUR BODY AS THE REAL SELF. EGO develops as a result of attachment and desires – I and Mine. pranagrd: WAYS TO REMOVE EGO: SELF ENQUIRY WHAT IS BODY IN RELATION TO THE CREATION OF GOD WHAT IS THIS BODY THAT WE REFER TO AS “MY BODY”. pratapthakkar: saikiran..pls tell us saikiran83: tell what pranagrd: i have a ppt file on karma... which is excellent.... i already sent to most of you... i can resend tht if u all want it pratapthakkar: were u referring to the same story? i thought u were going to tell that rare story pratapthakkar: pls sent me rameshbodla: pranagrd send to our group pranagrd: it sure. pranagrd: i will send it saikiran83: i told you that story about dhritirashtra..what big mistake he did to loose 100 songs in one go saikiran83: sons pratapthakkar: ok pratapthakkar: wht ahppened? pratapthakkar: all quiet? saikiran83: yea pratapthakkar: all of a sudden? saikiran83: ill tell one more incident prerna11w: amreading what others have to say pranagrd: sure saikiran ramprasadvk: even me too saikiran83: 10 youngsters came to swami.. swami asked them what did u do saipapu: even me too.. saipapu: saikiran83: they replied.. we ten of us laid a road in a hamlet sunitha_pl: me too learning new things saikiran83: swami said good saikiran83: those guys were expectin an interview...so they were a bit disappointed pratapthakkar: lets all lsiten tosaikiran saikiran83: next day a contingent of around 80 ppl.. came swami asked them what did u do.. pratapthakkar: saikiran..pls go on kiran_gunda_2000: very intersting saikiran83: they replied.. we all cleaned..a road..or.. just took out the waste.. and they got interview saikiran83: so.. quality is more imp.. then quantity.. unity is imp for swami prerna11w: ahan saikiran83: quality..is very imp.. pranagrd: nice kiran_gunda_2000: unity is strength saikiran83: i remember a couple of years.. back pratapthakkar: " 1 tea spoon of cow milk is enough. Y barrels of donkey milk?' saikiran83: a big load of clothes and toys..came from US pranagrd: then saikiran83: and we were busy for around 2 months distributing them saikiran83: and we thought we did a good job saikiran83: when we told swami.. abt thus saikiran83: this saikiran83: he told..."Old clothes huh" pranagrd: ahaaa prerna11w: saikiran83: i remember.. it was such a big load.. saikiran83: but all clothes were in very good condition.. but..still quality is important prerna11w: hmmm pranagrd: ok saikiran83: i guess we can learn more from incidents that r happening now rather then incidents in the past pranagrd: ok pranagrd: very nice exps saikiran.. thnx for sharing them saikiran83: so do seva...and experience...that bliss.. prerna11w: i agree ! pranagrd: right pranagrd: i will tell u wht swamy said.. saikiran83: let me share a personal exp prerna11w: time for me to go ! regret leaving teh satsang midway ! SaiRam all of you ! sunitha_pl: ys i heard such miracles from my friend thanks for sharing pranagrd: wht shud be the PROMISE we should make:::: pranagrd: swamy gave us 4 options for this pranagrd: 1. Let your MIND focus on Baba. pranagrd: 2. If your mind wavers – do meditation. pranagrd: 3. If you can’t do meditation – do seva to all around you. pranagrd: 4. If you can’t even do this – SURRENDER yourself to Baba and receive joy or sorrow – success or failure as His Blessings. pratapthakkar: sorry for the interruption....... rameshbodla: once again i am requesting all of you please chant gayatri as many times as possible for swami's health.....sairam please i am going..its getting late for me...may swami bless all of us.........sairam..to all of you... pratapthakkar: b4 ppl leave...let s announce the topic pratapthakkar: for the next session pranagrd: ok pratap pranagrd: lets decide topic, date and time pranagrd: wht say sunitha? ramprasadvk: nothing to worry... they will be intimated pratapthakkar: may i suggest/ saikiran83: how about talking about seva experinces and their implications pratapthakkar: ? sunitha_pl: ur wish saikiran83: you can pranagrd: ok. thts nice saikiran pratapthakkar: "ceiling on desires in today's age' pranagrd: nice pratap. pratapthakkar: ok for all? pratapthakkar: in that case v can focus our discussions only on that topic ramprasadvk: good donthuswetha: yes that is also good topic sunitha_pl: ok pranagrd: right.. pranagrd: wht abt rajugurbaxan's opinion? pranagrd: saipapu wht do u say? pranagrd: vasantha? pranagrd: kiran? rajugurbaxani1: EXTREMELY SORRY BUT I GOT A LIL BUSY rajugurbaxani1: I AM FINE WITH WHATEVER YOU DECIDE pratapthakkar: so lets all prepare for this topic pratapthakkar: and focus on it pranagrd: ok ramprasadvk: sure donthuswetha: ok sunitha_pl: ok pratapthakkar: so that v may derive some concrete decisions for implementation in day to day life sunitha_pl: sure pratapthakkar: after all all discussions r meant for practis e in real life and not a mere philosophical discussion saikiran83: exactly saikiran83: everyone think for abt this.. how can we..do tht in our daily lives saikiran83: and tell everyone pratapthakkar: v r all here to put into practice swami's teachings n not merely repeat them to others pranagrd: right pratap and saikiran saikiran83: ask any senior devotees.. rajugurbaxani1: DO WE PREPARE ON CEILING ON DESIRES pratapthakkar: v amy discuss the practical difficulties faced by us in daily life on this topic pratapthakkar: v may take some case studies if circulated in advance saikiran83: yea we can do an analysis,..on wht cna be cut down pratapthakkar: the topic may b made known to all pratapthakkar: whts the date and time? ramprasadvk: we can take the cse studies from anyone of this group only pranagrd: right date and time is important.. lets give sometime for that ans decide.. pratapthakkar: yes pratapthakkar: something in real life pratapthakkar: actual sunitha_pl: probably April15th pratapthakkar: not only phylosophical sunitha_pl: our next satsang ramprasadvk: so that it might give a solution to their probs pratapthakkar: sunitha....is 15th not too far pratapthakkar: can b prepone bya week ramprasadvk: why so late pratapthakkar: say 8 th pranagrd: maybe april 3rd week wud be nice ramprasadvk: wat abt 1st sunitha_pl: many devotees wants for every 15days not weekly pranagrd: i am on a travel pratapthakkar: lets compromise on 2nd...hehhe ramprasadvk: ok pratapthakkar: well...8th april is 15 days ramprasadvk: so many are going their home towns for ugadi festival sunitha_pl: even i am busy this week pratapthakkar: not this week sunitha pratapthakkar: not next too pratapthakkar: foll. week pratapthakkar: 2nd sat night sunitha_pl: ys next week is April8th saturday pratapthakkar: sorry next week is april 1st sunitha_pl: ys pratapthakkar: !!! sunitha_pl: leave this week ramprasadvk: here so many are from AP... Those who are not from AP, plz share with us, How you celebrate Ugadi?? pratapthakkar: ur wish pratapthakkar: so? wht is it fianlly? sunitha_pl: our satsang will be on April 8th or 15th sunitha_pl: I will give messages to u sunitha_pl: about the date ramprasadvk: thats better donthuswetha: ok pranagrd: ok.. pranagrd: i am leaving now.. pranagrd: sairam to all pranagrd: nice meeting all of u here pranagrd: sairam pratapthakkar: sure rajugurbaxani1: THANK YOU VERY MUCH sunitha_pl: on April 5th pratapthakkar: sairams to all ramprasadvk: sairam sunitha_pl: sairam sunitha_pl: bye ramprasadvk: I am also leaving rajugurbaxani1: SAI RAM pratapthakkar: good night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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