Questions about: Sai Baba/dreams/Gunaparthi

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ps: you may have seen my name in the saibabanews-group in july, but somehow my

messages don't arrive there. Only 1 i think(the first one). That's why i

couldn't reply Anita Bacha. Perhaps she reads this.

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Dear Olga, I am from Holland too, but that's not important maybe.

I feel as to answer your question about being helped by Baba or not "..though all have karma".

 

First: Who could know WHEN en HOW Baba helps? Often we are saved and even don't know.

 

Second: If someone does not really WANT to be helped and is willing to do

everything himself, how could Baba help that person AGAINST this persons free

WILL?!

 

See, I think these two are the most important solutions to your question.

Oh, a third one comes to my mind: Sometimes Baba is getting questions for help,

but He knows how and why that person is helped MORE, if He does NOT help in the

way that is asked for. We need an absolute Trust on Baba's Knowing absolute all

and everything.

 

With Love from Rita & Baba for ever and ever.

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SaiRam Olga,

I can only answer you with the words of Swami: Sathya Sai Baba on Himself "Why I have incarnated".

For Me it is always "yes, yes, yes". If you give up and surrender to The Lord,

He will guard you and guide you. The Lord has come just for this very task. He

is declaring that He will do so and that it is the very task that brought Him

here.

I know the agitations of your heart and its aspirations, but you do not know My

heart. I react to the pain that you undergo and to the joy that you feel, for I

am in your heart. I am the dweller in the temple of every heart. Do not lose

contact and company, for it is only when the lump of coal is in contact with

live ember that it can also become a live ember. Cultivate nearness with Me in

the heart and you will be rewarded. This is a great chance. Be confident that

you all will be liberated. Know that you are saved. If you waste this chance of

saving yourselves, it is just your fate. Problems and worries are really to be

welcomed as they teach you the lesson of humility and reverence...Running after

external things produces all this discontent. That type of desire has no end.

But I call you to Me even grant wordly favours and blessings. so that you may

turn Godward. No Avatar has done this before - going among the masses,

directing them along the path of Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righthousness), Shanti

(Peace) and Prema (Love).

 

And to all Swami says:

Do you think I would confront you with pain where there not a reason for it?

Open your heart to pain, as you do now to pleasure, for it is My will, wrought

by Me for your good. Welcome it as a challenge. Do not turn away from it. It is

all My plan, to drive you by the pangs of unfulfilled need to listen to My voice

which, when heard, dissolves the ego and the mind with it.

 

The problems is - we have forgotten that we are by nature, Divine!!

The more we dedicate our lives to craving to fulfil the physical desires that

are so prolifically multiplying, the more we separate ourselves from the

realisation of our true identity.

 

 

 

SaiRam With Love

Aad de Waard

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I think you have said it right.

 

sairam

Ravi

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Dear Ravi,

 

It was kind of you to say so. It makes you feel warm inside

when a brother confirms your faith in the Lord.

 

Aum Sai Ram.

 

Norman.

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Thanks for your messages.

 

I think 1 of my questions is a little misunderstood (by Norman and Ravi). I

didn't realize my question was not clear. I will give here an example for what

i mean:

 

Some time ago i read something. It was about a boy with his mother. They came to

Sai Baba. The mother asked Sai if he could cure her innocent son from his

blindness wich has happened by an accident. Sai Baba refused and said that this

'innocent' boy has made other people blind in a cruel way in his past lifes. If

the boy sees his karma in this, Sai maybe would help him.

 

But we all have karma (good or bad), so i wondered what the difference is with

people he cures and people he doesn't cure. This doesn't have to be physical,

it could also be in other ways. And i know what karma i have been throw, but

something bothers me. There's something in my life where i don't know the

answer for, because i don't know the karma in this, if this is karma anyway. I

think i read somewhere that Sai said not everything happens out of karma. And

that those ones who experience that, have more difficulty. Maybe i am one of

them. Perhaps i tell in another message what bothers me.

 

For Norman & Ravi:

 

I know who Sai Baba is and i'm not such a person who only reads from others what

they say about Sai. I also have read 'Sai Baba, the holy and the psychiarist',

but above all, i experienced something by myself. I had dreams about him (also

indirectly). I have seen some or all of them coming true, in a symbolic way. I

may tell more about it in other messages.

 

 

Bye Bye,

 

Olga

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Olga's question is very very important and very relevant in the present days

context. Is the mass loss of lives and the destruction in Tsunami and latest

Catrina events indicate the result of bad Karma !!! Does it mean all who lost

their lives were paying the penalty for their wrong deeds? One can believe some

many be worng doers but not all. Therefore the question of curing someone or

saving someone and not others comes in. No GOD can ever punish like this.

However in case of Baba the explanation is beyond anybody's grasping ability.

He has all powers to evert anything but rarely interfere in natural laws. The

example is killing of six volunteers in His ashram some time back. Swami could

have saved all of them provided His advised was followed and could have

interefered in natural cause.

 

Chandra

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I HAVE MANY DREAMS ABOUT SWAMI, SOME ARE PROPHETIC, SOME ARE

A BLESSING, SOME ARE JUST FUNNY, JUST TO TEASE ME ~ HE SAYS.

 

I REMEMBER TEASING HIM A LOT BECAUSE I WANTED HIM TO COME TO

MY DREAM MORE OFTEN AND GIVE ME DARSHAN; I MADE FACES IN FRONT OF HIS PICTURE

AND TICKLE HIS LOTUS FEET; SO FEW TIMES HE CAME TO MY DREAMS TO UPSET ME AND IN

THE WAKING UP-- HE TOLD ME; -I'M TEASING YOU.

 

ONCE I CUT MY HAIR VERY SHORT AND WHILE COMING HOME I STARTED TO WONDER IF

HE WOULD APPRECIATE MY HAIR CUT IN PRASHANTI, THE WAY I LOOKED...

SWAMI CAME TO MY DREAM, THE SAME NIGHT,...MY DAUGHTER WAS LAUGHING AT SOME THING

AND WOULD NOT TELL ME WHAT.

AT ONCE I SAW SWAMI COMING INTO THE ROOM WITH HIS HAIR VERY VERY SHORT AND

PASSED BY ME, WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING, LIKE HE WAS BUSY GOING SOMEWHERE, BUT

KIND OF SMILING UNDER HIS LIPS, SOMEHOW, BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD HIS PLAY.

I LOVE HIS JOKES AND HIS FUNNY WAYS;

HE IS ALSO MY BEST FRIEND AND

TOGETHER WE ARE A GREAT TEAM. MARIA . OM SAI RAM

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Sorry if we mistook the context in which your query was sent. If you were

wondering why Swami cures some and ignores others or how others qualify to be

cured, I think the answer lies in the fact that if a person should go thro a

particular karma ie.. bad phase in this life and if Swami feels its good for

that persons growth then he will not interfere. He will give him indications

that he is aware of his bad phase and he will show that he wants you to go thro

it. But if the person has developed lot of faith in Swami and taken Swami

teachings as his life, I personally feel that Swami will not let that person

suffer and his karma will be cancelled out by his 'Grace'.

 

I will give an example which happened in our own family, to illustrate the same.

My elder sister once had a dream wherein she saw Raghavendra Swami (he is a

devotee of Lord Krishna , great philosopher of Vishista Adviata and a Saint of

last century) in which he told my sister not to fear anything and her family

is protected. She felt happy about this incident. But after a week her

husband, my brother-in-law, had Brain hemorrhage and was admitted to hospital.

Doctors gave 5% chance for his survival. Operation was conducted, was

successful and he is still alive after 10 years of that incident. My

brother-in-law is a highly evolved spiritual person, but he had to go thro this

operation, partial paralysis for 10 yrs. Maybe it was reqd for his growth. God

made him go thro it but protected him and gave advance warning to my sister on

the same.

 

GOD operates the world and plays the game, the way he wants it and we are

merely spectators. Sometimes we clap, sometimes we put head down with anxiety

and sorrow. Faith is one energy drink which can take us thro the game.

 

Sairam

Ravi

 

-- Warm Regds,Ravi Krishnamurthy

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SaiRam Olga,

 

 

Once they asked Ramana Maharshi, "Maharshi, is it true that all life is painful,

all life is misery?

Maharshi replied, "Why else this constant, endless search for pleasure? Why

else?" So we are bound to come back to another karmic birth. If we do the

actions, we must suffer the consequences. But we can avoid that. There is an

art of liberation and the art is -do not be the doer. Swami says that is one of

the most important of all His teachings. Give your actions to Me. Dedicate

everything you do to Me, and I will be the actor. I will take the consequences

and you will be free".

 

If every action is dedicated to Swami, then we have stepped out of the cycle of

karma, birth and rebirth - to the light, the beauty and endless joy of our real

nature, the liberated state.

 

Now we are on earth again, but we are very very lucky to know about Swami. We

are so lucky that we can concentrate on Him, that we constant remember and

repeat His name and that He will be the Actor when we dedicate everything to

Him.. Now is the time. Right Now.

Past is past, future is uncertain.

He says: Think of Me, give all your sorrows to Me.

I will take care of them. I will lead you. See me everywhere. Let all that you

have been through in your many lives up to this day, melt away in my redeeming

light. Let Me efface all your karma, come back in my consciousness. Let your

petty human self fade away right now.

Renounce self for Me".

That is one of the most basic principles. If that is observed, then karma

absolves - no more karma for us.

 

Jai Sai Ram

Aad de Waard

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"Rashmi Badhwar" <rashmi.badhwar

Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:57am

RE: Re: Questions about: Sai

Baba/dreams/Gunaparthi

 

Maria you are blessed enjoy the moments with HIM

 

Rashmi Badhwar

 

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Abhishek Sood <abhisheksood2003

Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:09pm

Re: Re: Questions about: Sai

Baba/dreams/Gunaparthi

 

Hi Ravi,

 

I understands that Swami made us suffer because of our

karma and for our good. But after all that suffering,

if he still doesn't bless you with your wish, then

whats the point praying to him.

 

If at the end of the day you find yourself, dejected

and away from his grace, despite having faith in him,

and you finds that everyhing is happening as per the

destiny only, and swami has no mercy on you ..... Then

what to do.....

 

If you feels that despite your regular prayers, he

hasn't shown even a single sign of grace, then the

only

thought that comes to the mind is that Destiny is the

winner, and Swami doesn't grant anything beyond

destiny.

And then you are left with no other option then to

stop pleading to Sai.

 

Regards,

Abhi

 

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Maria <ombaba88

Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:28pm

Re: Re: Questions about: Sai

Baba/dreams/Gunaparthi

 

SAI RAM.

I LOVE THAT! GIVING ALL OUR ACTIONS TO SAI BABA, SO OUR KARMA WONT

BE KEEPING ACCUMULATING. SURRENDER ALL OUR ACTIONS AND THOUGHTS, BAD

AND GOOD, TO HIM; ITS THE BEST THING THAT HAS HAPPENED TO US HUMAN

ON PLANET EARTH. WHAT ALSO CAN WE ASK FOR??/ THANK YOU SWAMI ~ MY

INFINITE OCEAN ~ I LOVE YOU--TOO ~ SAI MARIA

OM SRI SAI RAM

 

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Mr Norman Shine <normanshine

Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:43am

Re: Re: Questions about: Sai

Baba/dreams/Gunaparthi

Om Sai Ram

 

To Olga I send my regretrs at my facile answer: brothers nad sisters

remind me of the importance

of the question.

 

We ask: "Why ?" when Baba clearly tells us so many times that we

cannot understand. It is not our

capacity to be able to understand.

 

It is simply a question of Baba's Will. He administers the Will of

God.

 

We accept - or deny this.

 

This is, in the final instance, an act of faith.

 

I believe. It is not always easy - to accept His will.

 

We deny it at our peril.

 

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Mr Norman Shine <normanshine

Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:07am

Re: Re: Questions about: Sai

Baba/dreams/Gunaparthi

 

Om Sai Ram!

 

Aad de Waard does well to remind us of the supreme value

of "nishkarmakarma" - which is

simply acknowledging Baba asthe Doer. When we act from the sheer joy

of being allowed

to appear to be acting - but leave the action to the Actor - He who

created all things and is

the One who is All things - the Supreme Reality - the Only Reality

 

Then it is just fun being alive. Enjoying what is, when all is aid

and done, His "leelas".

Join in the game, Olga.

 

Norman.

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As you say if someone has gone thro the suffering and yet not got the Grace,

then its really hard on him. But you know Baba says a miracle happens when

His love meets our Love. So maybe that person has't really developed such a

love. His surrender has't really been complete. Maybe the fruits of his

surrender and suffering is an act to clean his slate of Karma and he is

entitled to Gods grace only in his next life. Pl think of Hitler and you know

what I mean. If he is born today and happens to come across Swami's path and

develops devotion to him. Do you think he should be pardoned that easily ?

sorry. Iam not trying to make political statement here.

 

GOD is said to be karunamayi, he can't but melt like butter on a heater. In

Upanishads, God is described as ' Temptress behand compare'. He will tempt a

pure soul so much, that soul will't leave him for anything else in the world.

So if he has't responded to ur cry, then there is deeper meaning to it than you

think.

 

sairam

Ravi

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Dear Olga,

 

I just received this small PPS in my mailbox. I hope it answers your question

to some extent at least. Do, let me know.

 

I don't know if you have heard about the recent incident where our beloved

Swami called all the cleaners, gardeners , sweepers in Prashanthi and bestowed

special grace on them by giving them different gifts. Bhagavan also asked a few

of them to speak. You can have a look at the snaps in the radio sai website.

Details are also available in the prashanthi bulletin.

 

Why i am mentioning this is that, these are people who are not as well off as

most of the other devotees . But some of them have been serving Swami for

years, with probably no increase in their financial position inspite of the

physical proximity of Swami. Still they all have been serving Him faithfully

for years together, unquestioningly. That's the kind of spirit we all need to

develop. We need to have faith, that no matter what our karma may be, once we

have come to Swami, definitely there will be some change in our personal life,

in some way or other. Coming into God's fold, cannot but yield results.

 

Sai Love

Rohini

 

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Sai Ram.

 

Dear Olga,

 

You are, you can see getting good response to your questions.

 

You will see that the answer will in the last instance be found in your

own heart - when you are ready.

 

It may take some time. But.......be patient.

 

When the answer comes - it COMES !

 

And the answer comes from you - it comes from Baba. Its the same thing.

It comes from the depths of your consciousness. THAT is Baba.

 

With love and light,

 

Norman.

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Very good pps. we all enjoyed itRohini Anand <rhn_anand > wrote:

Dear Olga,

 

I just received this small PPS in my mailbox. .....

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here is an explanation from Swami himself on how Karma is created and how it

balances. Its a message sent by Seema in our mails.

 

 

"Any act done against My true nature,

By you in this birth,

Determines only your own suffering.

That is fulfilled by you in this or the next few births.

So base your actions upon

Those which are in My true nature."

 

As you can see, its important to understand Swami's nature. You will realise

that his nature is Love for all and Live for all. Once its understood it has

to be put into practice in day to day life activities. Its left to us how much

we are able to follow his nature. Once we have made sincere efforts in this

path, we will realise that Swami is indeed walking with you and we are not

alone.

 

sairam

Ravi

 

 

-- Warm Regds,Ravi Krishnamurthy