Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, Jan Brzezinski wrote: > We must look at both Bhaktivinoda Thakur and Siddhanta > Saraswati in their time and place. Thanks, Jan, for your exhaustive anthropological insights into Gaudiya Vaisnava history. Your empirical outlook permeates these to such a degree that almost every sentence contains at least one serious theological discrepency; in short, your opinions seem better suited to an academic conference dedicated to looking at sociology, religion, history, etc., in that fashion. Why not just go all the way and subject Krsna's earthly lilas to such creative socio-historical theories too? The kind of speculative data you prefer to share here (for reasons best known only to your good self) may be wholly novel to many people--who may then find themselves as fascinated by it as you obviously are. However, in a Vaisnava conference, why should those with healthy faith have to listen to such a theologically unnecessary and circumstantially inappropriate barrage of empirical data that challeges their faith (if in fact it isn't actually calculated to do so)--when most of them are simply not academically equipped to respond to it? Necessarily, your contribution is only destructive. However, not all of us fall into the above category anyway. We've studied all these things as well, and still disagree with your mixed-up approach. It may do you well to meditate (or better yet, pray for deeper insight) as to why we aren't so moved by it as you are. Deeper insight is always possible for those who truly seek it, but it comes from Krsna. At the very least, some sensitivity to your audience is in order; your transparently motivated attacks on your previous acaryas are also needlessly disturbing the devotional sentiments of the many devotees now privately complaining about it. Why not acommodate the possibility that their sentiments are as much the absolute truth as the Taittiryopanisad suggests (raso vai sah)? At any rate, there are standard pramanas we must respect in practice. In short, your viewpoint is essentially (that is, Essentially) material. Vaisnavas need to discuss the teachings of acaryas, as received from their guru. In other words, here we need "cakhu-dana" for "dibya-jnana" instead. I'm positive you understand why this is most appropriate, especially since the moderator has now also indicated it as well. So please feel free to do the needful. With respect, MDd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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