Guest guest Posted December 31, 2002 Report Share Posted December 31, 2002 Madhavaji, you have several times mentioned that Srimati Jahnava-Thakurani is actually Ananga-manjari in her siddha-deha, and you have quoted scriptures from Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura to this effect. I would like to know what sources you use to make this pronouncement? Because just today, I skimmed over the biography of Srinivas Acharya and thus found some mention of Gopala Bhatta Goswami. This biography mentions that after revealing to Srinivas Acharya his siddha-deha as Mani-manjari, the Goswami “told him that in this eternal spiritual identity, upon which he should now constantly meditate, he will always assist Guna-manjari (Gopal Bhatta himself, who is also known as Ananga-manjari) in her service to Shri Shri Radha and Krishna.” [steven Rosen, Lives of the Vaishnava Saints, 2002) I wondered why Gopal Bhatta Goswami would be Guna-manjari in his eternal identity, and yet also known as Ananga-majari. Therefore I consulted my copy of Gaura-gannodesa-dipika and found the following verses: 66. Some say that Srimati Vasudha-devi is the incarnation of Srimati Ananga-manjari, and others say that Srimati Jahnavi-devi is the incarnation of Srimati Ananga-manjari. In truth, both opinions are correct. They are both incarnations of Srimati Ananga-manjari. 184. Ananga-manjari appeared as Srila Gopala Bhatta Gosvami. Some say that Gopala Bhatta Gosvami was actually the incarnation of Sri Guna-manjari. So how do we resolve this dichotomy? How do we properly understand that Srimati Vasudha-devi and Srimati Jahnava-devi AND Srila Gopala Bhatta Goswami were incarnations of Ananga-manjari? And if this is correct, then why say that the Goswami is actually Guna-manjari? Also, you have quoted Bhaktivinoda Thakura to the effect of stating that Vipina-vihari Goswami was none other than Vilasa-manjari. What evidence is there to state that Vilasa-manjari was Vipin-vihari Goswami? In other words, Srila Bhaktivinoda could simply have been addressing Vilas-manjari, but where is it explicitly stated that Vipin-vihari Goswami was Vilas-manjari? Also in another post where you were talking about Srila Baladeva Vidyabhusana, you said: “Had he presented his own guru-pranali, it would have read as follows: Nityananda Prabhu - Gauridasa Pandita - Hridaya Caitanya - Syamananda Pandit - Rasika Murari - Nayanananda Gosvami - Radha Damodara Gosvami. Throughout his writings, Baladeva recognized his allegiance to the pranali descending from Rasika Murari (also known as Rasikananda) and Syamananda, also writing a tika on Rasika's ‘Syamananda-satakam’.” I wonder about Syamananda Pandit’s guru, Hridaya Caitanya. I was reading the biography of Syamananda Pandit today itself, and there seemed to be a huge controversy about whether it was Hridaya Caitanya or Jiva Goswami who was really Syamananda’s guru. Indeed, it was one of the most major controversies even at that time, where accounts relate that there was basically an argument of sorts between Hridaya Caitanya and Jiva Goswami. I will have to read the biography again to properly digest the knowledge, but for the time being could you clarify the situation by giving your own perspective of the discipleship of Syamananda Pandit? Thanks. Sanjay"Radha-Krishna prana mora jugala-kisora, jivane marane gati aro nahi mora.The divine couple, Sri Radha and Krsna, are my life and soul. In life or death I have no other refuge but Them."-- Srila Narottama Dasa ThakuraDo you ? Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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