Asiddha-pranali

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On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Madhava wrote:

> There is one post of mine I sent in a while ago, but which seems to have

> gone largely unaddressed.

 

I would say the response has gone totally unaddressed, so I'll

reiterate the gist of it below (this is from a conversation during a walk

in Los Angeles, 6/7/76 ):

 

Ramesvara: They mail it out?

 

Tamala Krsna: Yes, well its a bunch of notes they mail out on a regular

basis. Its really poisonous. Pradyumna has been investigating. He got a

bunch of their notes photocopied. The one thing I've noticed about the people

that are involved with this, two features I particularly have noticed. One of

them is that they don't go out on sankirtana. Everyone Ive seen...

 

Prabhupada: Then everything will be finished. Preaching will be finished.

In this sahajiya party, then preaching will be finished. Siddha-pranali.

 

Tamala Krsna: What does that mean, Srila Prabhupada, siddha-pranali?

 

Prabhupada: Siddha-pranali is nonsense. They have manufactured a

siddha-pranali.

 

Ramesvara: (break) ...the initiation that you are given your siddhas, your

eternal position.

 

Tamala Krsna: There are some very strange notes. You should see those

notes.

 

Ramesvara: Yes, I've read them all already.

 

Tamala Krsna: You did?

 

Prabhupada: They have learned it from these Radha-kunda babajis.

 

Tamala Krsna: From Radha-kunda babajis?

 

Prabhupada: Babajis, yes. After all, they're fool, rascals, so whatever

they say.

 

 

 

 

> This is the eternal allegiance of service of the initiate.

 

That is, it's an "eternal allegiance" until such an initiate

rejects his guru and goes looking for others. Hence, Srila Prabhupada

practically dismisses the whole notion outright: "Siddha-pranali is

nonsense."

 

Note that this is NOT a rejection of tradition; it is a

rejection of presumptuous rascals who cheat themselves (and sometimes a

couple others) in the name of "the tradition." In other words, such

casual pseudo-devotees simply need to recognize that it is wholly and

solely a question of their own "sahaja" problems--not theology.

 

Let's first become siddha, then we can talk of pranali.

 

MDd