Non-Gaudiiya Devotional Music (was susvagatam jagannatha)

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achintya, "mcthaker" <mcthaker> wrote:

> acharyas. I must admit I am no authority and I do succumb to

bhajans

> which may sound nice and mention Krishna/Radha or Sita/Rama, but,

if

> there was a "suspect" list available to devotees, with clear

> explanation as to why it is rejected then everyone would benefit.

> More recently I have tried to restrict my consumption of so-called

> bhajans by "Bollywood" and other singers, but that is purely out of

> fear rather than understanding why something is not geniune.

>

>

> Maybe someone here can enlighten me (and maybe others like myself)

of

> some well known "so-called" bhajans and why they are not approved?

>

 

Your concerns are definitely good ones. I think it is probably not a

good idea to depend on someone else to do the thinking for you about

what is and is not acceptable, unless their reasons for rejecting a

particular bhajan/kiirtan are made clear to you. Misunderstandings

are also apt to arise about a particular composition when one

considers the lack of familiarity with Indian languages.

 

I readily listen to the music of Thyaagaraaja and Annamaachaarya. The

latter is a well known Shrii Vaishnava composer-saint who performed

the very first kalyaana ceremony of the Deities in the famous

Tirupati temple! Thyaagaraaja does not seem to be aligned with a

specific sampradaaya, but he reportedly had the darshan of Naarada

and is obviously a Raama bhakta based on his own life story and

compositions. Not only this, but I try to listen carefully to the

lyrics of any kiirtana to which I listen, and I reject any composer

whose music sounds clearly tainted with maayaavaada. I also do not

listen to devotional music sung by anyone who is grossly sinful.

 

Personally, I would prefer to listen to devotional music sung by pure

Vaishnavas only, but the reality is that there has been very little

effort to resuscitate traditional Indian devotional music in Gaudiiya

circles, what to speak of South Indian traditional music. On the

contrary, much of what I hear coming out of the Western Gaudiiya

institutions either uses Western instruments (i.e. electric guitars),

is sung rock and roll style, or in some other way just seems too

mixed up with the mode of passion for my taste. There have been many

great Vaishnava composers in the past who have advanced the Vedic

system of music, and it would do us all well to pay heed to their

approach if we really want to adhere to Vedic culture.

 

We could probably use this forum to discuss specific musical

compositions (provided that translations are given) and enquire as to

whether or not it sounds bona fide. Needless to say, we should know

something about the composers too, as well as the lyrics themselves.

I am definitely not a proponent of the idea that anything outside our

sampradaaya is immediately to be rejected, but I do agree that we

should avoid the compositions of nondevotees or pseudodevotees.

 

yours,

 

K

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harinama sung by pure devotees is definitely the best for our spiritual

advancement

 

the other styles to chant (rock, bollywood, newage, techno etc.) obviously

change their potency according to the (relative) purity of the performers...

but it is also a matter of culture and taste ... if i do not like country

music, i will appreciate a little less a devotional song in that style

 

but beiing me not pure, i can only appreciate who sings the names of the

lord wathever motivation he/she has

 

in the morning we greet the deities with a song chanted by "maybe not so

pure" american devotees with the Beatles... GOVINDA

 

so for me it is not a problem....for example i very much appreciated the

MADONNA's version of a shankaracharya's song that, definitely, is another

way to sing the concepts of the guruvastakam, that she performed in

television , with vaishnava tilaka and bharatanatyam dancers

 

haribol

 

yasodanandanadasa florence italy

 

ehem....

 

http://stage.vitaminic.com/main/govinda/

 

 

 

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