Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 It seems to me that, if we don't resolve this basic issue, no other discussion about the legitimacy of the Gaudiiya-Saarasvata line will bear fruit. At the very heart of this discussion is the relationship between the Gaudiiya Sampradaaya and the broader Vedic tradition, or Sanaatana- dharma. Is the former merely an historical construct created at a finite time and inspired by the latter? Or are they in reality contiguous and non-different? The answer determines how one accepts shaastra and the instructions of the Six Gosvamis. Proponents of the former view can accept that the Gosvamis will contradict the shaastras, and preferentially accept the Gosvamis' opinions without any attempt to reconcile them with the shaastras. They see absolutely no problem with this. Those who hold the latter view, will not attempt to see difference between the instructions of the Gosvamis and those of the shaastras. The philosophical legitimacy of a paramparaa is based on faithful reproduction of the shaastric viewpoint. Thus, the Vedas are very much a part of the tradition; they are not excluded as proponents of the former view would have us believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Nityananda. Gauranga. Krishna Susarla wrote: >> At the very heart of this discussion is the relationship between the Gaudiiya Sampradaaya and the broader Vedic tradition, or Sanaatana-dharma. Is the former merely an historical construct created at a finite time and inspired by the latter? Or are they in reality contiguous and non-different? << The Gaudiya sampradaya was started by Mahaprabhu. It may draw from the Vedic tradition in places as has been proved by Srila Jiva Goswami and others, but it is not necessarily inspired by it. Still, you need to specify exactly what "Vedic traditions" you are referring to before this discussion can go any further. The term is indeed very broad and indicative of a generalising nature. I have a hunch that your reply will be connected to some or most of the points being discussed in the "Satyanarayana" thread, but let me wait and see. >> The answer determines how one accepts shaastra and the instructions of the Six Gosvamis. << Or rather, the sastras as viewed by the Six Goswamis. >> Proponents of the former view can accept that the Gosvamis will contradict the shaastras, and preferentially accept the Gosvamis' opinions without any attempt to reconcile them with the shaastras. They see absolutely no problem with this. << Again, you need to specify what exactly you are talking about when you mention the sastras, before you make a statement about whether the Goswamis contradict the sastras or not. The issues at hand are not very clear here. >> Those who hold the latter view, will not attempt to see difference between the instructions of the Gosvamis and those of the shaastras. << That all depends on whether there is a difference or not. Since your term of "Vedic traditions" or "sastras" is as yet undefined, I don't think anyone can be absolutely sure what you are talking about here. The works of Srila Jiva Goswami as well as Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura are abundantly clear about which elements of the Vedas need to be accepted, modified or rejected in order to fit Gaudiya philosophy. Kind regards, Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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