Guest guest Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 achintya, "krishna_susarla" <krishna_susarla@h...> wrote: > tatra svaguruparamparaa yathaa | > shriikR^iShNabrahmadevarShibaadaraayaNasa.mj~nakaan | > shriimadhvashriipadmanaabhashriiman nR^iharimaadhavaan || > akShobhyajayatiirthashriij~naanasindhudayaanidhiin | > shriiviDhyaanidhi raajendra jayadharmaan kramaadvayam || > puruShottama brahmaNya vyaasatiirthashcha sastumaH || > tachchhiShyaan shriishvaraadvaita nityaanandaan jagadguruun | > devamiishvarashiShya.m shriichaitanya~ncha bhajaamahe | > shriikR^iShNapremadaanena yena nistaarita.m jagat || 7 || iti || > I couldn't help but notice the way Srila Baladeva introduced this guru paramparaa listing - "tatra svaguruparamparaa yathaa" followed by listing of gurus beginning with Lord Krishna and ending with Lord Chaitanya. Proponents of the diiksha-only paramparaa theory have tried to downplay this association with Madhvaachaarya, in which there are abundant connections in which no formal diiksha took place. Furthermore, they criticize Srila Prabhupada's paramparaa listing for being incomplete, and conclude that it therefore is not orthodox. But here, Srila Baladeva stops the paramparaa listing after Lord Chaitanya. Clearly, there are many gurus between Mahaaprabhu and Shrii Baladeva. If Srila Prabhupada is to be criticized for not listing every guru in his paramparaa (giving an abbreviated paramparaa), then we must similarly criticize Srila Baladeva. But the critics will not do that, often giving the excuse that Srila Baladeva's omissions can be excused because he was only trying to show the connection between his paramparaa and Madhvaachaarya. But Srila Baladeva clearly says "tatra svaguruparamparaa yathaa" - this is his own paramparaa. It isn't just a question of describing the connection to critics; this is clearly his own paramparaa. The point here is that it is very excusable to give abbreviated listings of a paramparaa. True, Srila Baladeva had written the Govinda Bhaashya for an audience who wanted to know his paramparaa's connection to Madhva. And Srila Prabhupada wrote his Bhagavad-Gita commentary for an audience who simply needed to understand the basic concept of paramparaa (as opposed to a board of Vaishnava historians). Thus, we can excuse both without hesitation for giving abbreviated listings to get across their respective points. The fact that the critics will excuse only Baladeva and not Srila Prabhupada shows their double-standard, and hence the untenability of their arguments. - K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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