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> May I humbly ask about his verse BHAGAVAD-GITA 6:41. Does the

practicing

> yogi take birth in a Brahmana Family or is it a Brahman Initiated

> Vaisnava.....as quoted in the posting 426 (brahmana vaisnava)?.

 

What do you mean by a "Brahman Initiated Vaisnava?" I would appreciate

clarification. All that is said in the purport is, "After prolonged life

there, one is sent back again to this planet, to take birth in the

family of a righteous brahmana vaisnava or of aristocratic merchants." I

presume the "merchant" is not necessarily Vaishnava... having some

wealth may be favorable for spiritual life if one can spend time in

spiritual pursuits that would otherwise be spent in survival.

 

> Are the Pandava's Brahman by Birth or are they Brahman Vaisnava ?

 

Paandavas were born into a kshatriya family and raised as kshatriyas.

Therefore, from a material perspective, they are kshatriyas. I say

"material perspective," because devotees should naturally see them as

devotees first and foremost. We know from Srila Prabhupada's purports in

Bhagavad-Giitaa that Arjuna exhibited many brahminical traits (such as

in his willingness to renounce the battlefield, be nonviolent, etc).

Nevertheless, Arjuna's position was that of a kshatriya. There was no

question of him abandoning this dharma for that of a Brahmin, even

though he had already acquired those kinds of qualities.

 

> My reason for asking these questions is, because I have observed

during my

> 14 year assiociation with ISKCON, that all too frequently at certian

> lectures the "Brahmanical Class" is seen with negativity and down

trodden.

> We criticise the Caste Brahmana because he/she may not be following

the

> rules and regulations. Is this a correct attitude from us Brahman

> Vaisnava's ?

 

Even among devotees, there are many who do not follow the regulative

principles. Are we in such a position to criticize? I think a safe

approach is to criticize the undesireable practice, rather than

criticizing a whole class of people because some or most of them engage

in a certain practice. Not all Brahmins in India are so fallen. We have

to be careful.

 

Yours,

 

- K

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> My reason for asking these questions is, because I have observed

> during my 14 year assiociation with ISKCON, that all too frequently at

> certian lectures the "Brahmanical Class" is seen with negativity and

> down trodden.

 

Some speakers unfortunately focus much of their classes speaking bad about

the brahmanical class, not realizing that their class is not doing good to

any one, and in particular their loose statements have the potential to

scare away their congregation for once and all.

 

These speakers should realize that not all people born in Brahminical

class are devoid of spiritual knowledge and practice, although they may

not agree to all aspects of Gaudiya Vaishnavism.

 

I often ask some of these speakers, "How many of the Brahminical initiated

devotees in ISKCON have all the qualities of a Brahmin?".

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> Can any one give me all questions of Arjuna in BG all questions of Maharaj

> Parikshit in SB?

 

I've never seen such a list and to compile it would be quite a job. Madhava,

why not get a copy of Vedabase and make such a list yourself? To get

Vedabase please contact Ekanath Prabhu who I've added as a receiver here.

 

dasa, BVS

 

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