Guest guest Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 > i have heard i think many times a story how Srila BSST asked his disciples > to beat a snake which was not a snake but a rope and one disciple started > beating it, and so on. I don't think this is true. It's more likely an extrapolation of the well-known Rajju-bhujaga nyaya. Rajju means rope, bhujaga means serpent. In the darkness or twilight a rope on the ground may be mistaken for a snake. Out of illusion one may accept a rope as a snake but when he comes to understand, he no longer fears it. This example is given by the Mayavadis to demonstrate the nature of illusion. The analogy of misunderstanding a rope to be a snake is often mentioned in Vedic literature, e.g. the Mandükya Upanisad, but it is meant to explain the error of identifying the body with the soul. The Vaisnava acaryas point out that the identification of the rope as a snake may be illusory but the rope itself is not illusory. It is a definitely manifest phenomenon of this material world. The Mayavadis say that nothing is real, everything is illusory but this example shows that although object have their existence they are not in themselves illusory but it is the misidentification of their nature which is illusory. The impersonalists try to prove that the varieties in the vision of the empiric philosopher are false. The impersonalist philosophy, vivarta-vada, generally cites the acceptance of a rope to be a snake as an example of this (supposed) fact. According to this example, the varieties within our vision are false, just as a rope seen to be a snake is false. The Vaisnavas say, however, that although the idea that the rope is a snake is false, the snake is not false; one has experience of a snake in reality, and therefore he knows that although the representation of the rope as a snake is false or illusory, there is a snake in reality. Similarly, this world, which is full of varieties, is not false; it is a reflection of the reality in the Vaikuntha world, the spiritual world. ============ REF. Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.15.58 As there are several words in Sanskrit both for snake and rope, this maxim has several other names, such as Sarpa-rajju Nyaya. This example is often referred to in the text of Srimad-Bhagavatam, e.g.s 4.22.38, 6.9.37, 10.14.25, 10.14.28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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