Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 Hare Krishna, The above question has always bewildered me. Can someone throw more light on a possible/plausible answer. Your Servant Always, Sumeet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 Haribol Dear Sumeet The differences are actually factual. Variegatedness is a characteristic of the spiritual realm. The lord being worshipped in all opulence and reverence as Narayana at Vaikuntha is as factual as He being worshipped in a mood of friendly/paternal/conjugal devotional service at Goloka Vrindavana. Obviously the rules which apply at the palace do not hold good at the grazing ground. Different acharyas have proclivity to different types of relationships with the Supreme Lord and hence the apparent difference. This also caters to the different souls with different svarupa. Your servant k.n.sriram sumeet1981 [sumeet1981 ]Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 6:54 AMachintyaSubject: Why are there differences amongst Vaishanavs ?Hare Krishna,The above question has always bewildered me. Can someone throw more light on a possible/plausible answer.Your Servant Always,Sumeet.To from this group, send an email to:achintyaAchintya Homepage: achintyaDISCLAIMER: All postings appearing on Achintya are the property of their authors, and they may not be cross-posted to other forums without prior approval by said authors. Views expressed in Achintya postings are those of their authors only, and are not necessarily endorsed by the moderator or spiritual leaders of the Gaudiiya school. Your use of Groups is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 achintya, "Kizhakkemadam, Sriram N (MED)" <sriram.kizhakkemadam@m...> wrote: > Haribol Dear Sumeet > The differences are actually factual. Variegatedness is a characteristic of the spiritual realm. The lord being worshipped in all opulence and reverence as Narayana at Vaikuntha is as factual as He being worshipped in a mood of friendly/paternal/conjugal devotional service at Goloka Vrindavana. Obviously the rules which apply at the palace do not hold good at the grazing ground. Different acharyas have proclivity to different types of relationships with the Supreme Lord and hence the apparent difference. This also caters to the different souls with different svarupa. > > Your servant > k.n.sriram Hare Krishna Sriram ji All that i understand well. Let me be more specific now: " Real knowledge is nothing but knowledge of one's relationship to the Absolute. Real knowledge is identical with the knowledge of subjective natures of cit (animate), acit (inanimate) and Krsna and of their mutual relationship. " [brahma Samhita Text 58 commentary] All this is differently understood in schools of Vaishnavism. Consequently we have Dvaita, Vishisthadvaita, Achintya bheda abheda, Suddha advaita and dvaitadvaita philosophies. I want to know whats the cause of such difference ? Each sampradya emphasizes on pure devotion then why such differences in appropriate knowledge. Madhva propagated dvaita philosophy because he wasn't satisfied with Ramanuja totally, though both philosophy are theistic in origin and aim at same Supreme Person and stresses on devotion/surrender to Lord Krishna. The difference between such philosophies doesn't seems to be due to atma-svarupa bheda. What is the cause of such difference ? Why does one person who is free from 4 defects of human being is disagreeing with the second person who is also supposedly free from the same 4 defects ? Nor any reconcilation of the divergent views is possible. Hence again I ask whats the cause ? Your Servant Always Sumeet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Hare Krishna, The above question has always bewildered me. Can someone throw more light on a possible/plausible answer. That all really depends on what "differences" you are speaking of; but factually, everyone is an individual and thus we all have our individual opinions. Haribol, Gaura ===== -- Gour Govinda Katha - gourgovindakatha/ Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Hari Bol All, Please accept my Humble Obeisances. Though, I may not be able to support my views with examples from authorized texts, I still wish to take some courage in answering this question. I feel that the answer to this question lies in the answer to the question, why there is some much variegatedness in this world. Hope you all know the answer to this question. This whole world has so much variety, that if there were no common philosophy like Krishna Consciousness, there would have been lot of confusion in understanding things. Atleast, we are in so much a better position, than other vedanta philosophers, because, by Lord Krishnas grace, we all have so much of clarity in understanding things. By Again Krishnas mercy, all of us have been able to understand the Absolute Truth in our own realm and manner. Now, the only answer to the question, "why there is so much of variety in this world ?" is Krishna likes variety. "The entire creation of this world is nothing but a spark of my splendour " Krishna tells Arjuna in the BG. So from this we can understand that, whatever creation which Krishna has created in this world, even if it were the Great Vaishnava Acharyas, he has manifested variety in thinking and understanding. Only because the acharyas thought differently, today we are able to enjoy arguing from the achinta beda abeda point of view. So in short, I would say that, it is all a leela of the Supreme Lord. He wanted his philosophy to be taught by the purest devotee. So he has created so much of confusion, and sent his purest devotee, Srila Prabhupada, to clear all these doubts. So whatever possible confusion, Madhavacharya, Ramanujacharya, Shankaracharya.. Jesus, Buddha or Allah have created in the past, may not be really a confusion... but different views of the Absolute Truth. But only after reading Srila Prabhupadas books, have we been able to understand the commonness in all these philosophies. After understanding the Absolute Truth, by His Divine Grace, the only thing which we can do is to praise the Supreme Lord, for his Variegatedness.. Hari Bol, Yours Humble Servant, Anand Gopalan Singapore. Gaurasundara achintya 11/26/03 7:01 AM Re: Why are there differences amongst Vaishanavs ? Hare Krishna, The above question has always bewildered me. Can someone throw more light on a possible/plausible answer. That all really depends on what "differences" you are speaking of; but factually, everyone is an individual and thus we all have our individual opinions. Haribol, Gaura ===== -- Gour Govinda Katha - gourgovindakatha/ Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion./ achintya Achintya Homepage: achintya DISCLAIMER: All postings appearing on Achintya are the property of their authors, and they may not be cross-posted to other forums without prior approval by said authors. Views expressed in Achintya postings are those of their authors only, and are not necessarily endorsed by the moderator or spiritual leaders of the Gaudiiya school. Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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