Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 In the Gaudiya Vedanta English edition of Jaiva-Dharma (which appears to have been very nicely translated), the passage cited in earlier postings appears to come from chapter 6: Nitya-dharma, race and caste. The discussion is fairly elaborate and cannot be summarized by one quote. The citation given in the earlier postings is translated as follows: Cudamani: Then why is it that a candala who chants hari-nama is barred from performing yajnas and other brahminical activities? Vaisnava dasa: One must take birth in a brahmana family to perform yajnas and other such activities, and even one born in a brahmana family must be purified by the ceremony of investiture with the sacred thread before he is eligible to perform the duties of a brahmana. Similarly, a candala may have become purified by taking up hari-nama, but he is still not eligible to perform yajnas until he acquires seminal birth in a brahmana family. However, he can perform the angas (limbs) of bhakti, which are infinitely greater than yajnas. Cudamani: What kind of conclusion is that? How can a person who is disqualified for an ordinary privilege be qualified for something that is much higher? Is there any conclusive evidence for this? Vaisnava dasa: There are two types of human activity: material activities that relate to practical existence (vyavaharika); and spiritual activities that relate to the ultimate truth (paramarthika). A person may have attained spiritual qualification, but that does not necessarily qualify him for particular material activities. For example, one who is a Muslim by birth may have acquired the nature and all the qualities of a brahmana, so that he is a brahmana from the spiritual point of view, but he still remains ineligible for certain material activities, such as marrying the daughter of a brahmana. Cudamani: Why is that? What is wrong if he does so? Vaisnava dasa: If one violates social customs, one is guilty of secular impropriety, and members of society who take pride in their social respectability do not condone such acitivities. That is why one should not perform them, even if he is spiritually qualified. Bhaktivinoda Thakura hereby indicates that although one may be qualified with all brahminical symptoms, still he does not transgress the social etiquette so as not to create a disturbance in human society. Even though he may be more qualified from the spiritual point of view as a brahmana and Vaisnava--he does not create a transgression which may create agitation and upheaval in the social order. As a principle of course, this has more relevance in India where such things are considered important. In western countries, such considerations would seem to be more or less irrelevant and therefore more (if not all) stress is given to spiritual qualifications, and caste and racial distinctions are thus correctly viewed as nullified by the spiritual process. Rupa-vilasa dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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