Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 achintya, "Gauranga Premananda (das) BCS (Amsterdam - NL)" <Gauranga.Premananda.BCS@p...> wrote: > Why are some souls in beginningless bondage, made to suffer. They deserve this? > -------- SB 5.10.22: King Rahugana continued: My dear sir, you have said that designations like bodily fatness and thinness are not characteristics of the soul. That is incorrect because designations like pain and pleasure are certainly felt by the soul. You may put a pot of milk and rice within fire, and the milk and rice are automatically heated one after the other. Similarly, due to bodily pains and pleasures, the senses, mind and soul are affected. The soul cannot be completely detached from this conditioning SB 5.10.24: Whatever you have spoken appears to me to be contradictory. O best friend of the distressed, I have committed a great offense by insulting you. I was puffed up with false prestige due to possessing the body of a king. For this I have certainly become an offender. Therefore I pray that you kindly glance at me with your causeless mercy. If you do so, I can be relieved from sinful activities brought about by insulting you SB 5.11.1: The brahmana Jada Bharata said: My dear King, although you are not at all experienced, you are trying to speak like a very experienced man. Consequently you cannot be considered an experienced person. An experienced person does not speak the way you are speaking about the relationship between a master and a servant or about material pains and pleasures. These are simply external activities. Any advanced, experienced man, considering the Absolute Truth, does not talk in this way. SB 5.11.16: The soul's designation, the mind, is the cause of all tribulations in the material world. As long as this fact is unknown to the conditioned living entity, he has to accept the miserable condition of the material body and wander within this universe in different positions. Because the mind is affected by disease, lamentation, illusion, attachment, greed and enmity, it creates bondage and a false sense of intimacy within this material world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Dear Prabhu. Please accept my humble obeisance. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. On > Why are some souls in beginningless bondage, made to suffer. They deserve this? > Thank you for the answer: (quotes).SB 5.10.22,24; 5.11.1,16. Could you please give some purport. My question is on the original fall down in this material energy. Some souls are eternal associates nitya mukta and some are nitya baddha. Who designated and condemned me or us to be eternally bound to the witch called maya, and blessed others with nitya-mukta. Besides that nitya in nitya-baddha is different from the nitya in nitya-mukta; nitya-mukta's never fall. ys: Gauranga Premananda das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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