Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Dear Devotees Pamho AgtSP Does any body have any esoteric understanding of the Ramayana. Like Ravana, Kumbhakana and Vibhisana being compared to the 3 modes. Or Jatayu being an example of none attachment. Or Jambuvan prompting Hanuman to jump to lanka being like the guru prompting us to realize our true nature. In fact any nectar on the Ramayan would be greatly appreciated. Any particulr eddition reccomended. I read Krishan Dharmas and liked it and also listened to Amala bhakta dasa´s tapes, which are Ramtastic, especially the voices of the rakshashis in the Ashok grove. Bhaja Ram Ys Bh.Robin Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger. http://messenger./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 I think it would be a good idea to ask your questions about Ram Lila in these two groups: India Divine IndiaDivine and Jetusa Jetusa. I am sure someone there can answer your questions and direct you to material for further reading. Besides I found an Ramayana group on : http://dir./dir/Religion___Beliefs/Hinduism/Texts/Ramayana, 2 groups devoted to Lord Rama: LordRama, LordSriRama 4 groups about Lord Hanuman: hanumandevotee, hanuman2, hanuman_group, lordhanuman Kind regards, AlexandraRobin Buckley <trinidadffl > wrote: [edited] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 This may be of some interest... http://www.vahini.org/ramakatha/innermeaning.html 'The Inner Meaning Rama is the Indweller in every Body. He is the Atma-Rama, the Rama (Source of Bliss) in every individual. His blessings upsurging from that inner Spring can confer Peace and Bliss. He is the very embodiment of Dharma of all the Codes of Morality that hold mankind together in Love and Unity. The Ramayana, the Rama story, teaches two lessons: the value of detachment and the need to become aware of the Divine in every being. Faith in God and detachment from objective pursuits are the keys for human liberation. Give up sense-objects; you gain Rama. Sita gave up the luxuries of Ayodhya and so, she could be with Rama, in the period of 'exile'. When she cast longing eyes on the golden deer and craved for it, she lost the Presence of Rama. Renunciation leads to joy; attachment brings about grief. Be in the world, but, not of it. The brothers, comrades, companions and collaborators of Rama are each of them examples of persons saturated with Dharma. Dasaratha is the representative of the merely physical, with the ten senses. The three Gunas - Sathwa, Rajas and Thamas - are the three Queens. The Four Goals of Life - the Purusharthas - are the four Sons. Lakshmana is the Intellect; Sugriva is Viveka or Discrimination. Vali is Despair. Hanuman is the embodiment of Courage. The Bridge is built over the Ocean of Delusion. The three Rakshasa chiefs are personifications of the Rajasic (Ravana), Thamasic (Kumbhakarna) [see also Srimad Bhagavatam, C7:1, verse 44] and the Sathwic qualities (Vibhishana). Sita is Brahmajnana or the Awareness of the Universal Absolute, which the Individual must acquire and regain undergoing travails in the crucible of Life. Make your heart pure and strong, contemplating the grandeur of the Ramayana. Be established in the faith that Rama is the Reality of your existence.' Regards, MJS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 achintya, "Michael Spurr" <spurreb@f...> wrote: > This may be of some interest... > http://www.vahini.org/ramakatha/innermeaning.html > 'The Inner Meaning > Without getting into the fact that this webpage is not that of a Vaishnava organization, I wanted to ask the list membership if anyone can see the problems in the article itself. I posted it thinking it would generate some objections, and I was rather surprised that it did not. Look closely at the text and see if you can identify the problem areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, krishna_susarla wrote: > Without getting into the fact that this webpage is not that of a > Vaishnava organization, I wanted to ask the list membership if anyone > can see the problems in the article itself. I'm happy with Srila Prabhupada's ninth canto, which is entirely sufficient. MDd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Hare Krishna I took a look at that vahini.org web site, and noticed first that it's a Sai Baba web site. Then I found this page: http://vahini.org/Discourses/d7-bhagavatam.html It's got the painting of the 10 avatars of Vishnu from Bhagavad-gita As It Is on that page. It seems like they wouldn't have permission to use that picture, and on the bottom of the page they even take credit for all the pictures on the web site. Maybe it's because they claim (also on that page) that Sai Baba is the Kalki avatar (and therefore the proprietor of everything). But seriously, it seems like they shouldn't be able to claim this painting as their own, and probably not even use it. I wonder who to contact about this. Hare Krishna Pandu das > achintya, "Michael Spurr" <spurreb@f...> wrote: > > This may be of some interest... > > http://www.vahini.org/ramakatha/innermeaning.html > > 'The Inner Meaning > > > > Without getting into the fact that this webpage is not that of a > Vaishnava organization, I wanted to ask the list membership if anyone > can see the problems in the article itself. I posted it thinking it > would generate some objections, and I was rather surprised that it > did not. > > Look closely at the text and see if you can identify the problem > areas. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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