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the purpose of the post is to briefly explain that sankara does not

offend any one as taught by the vaishnava schools. though otherwise

perfect, sankara abuse is a flaw of the vaishnava schools of thought

which may be ignored like a dot on the moon. however, i consider it

important to prevent abuse of the greatest acharya of all times.

hence this post.

 

bhava sankara desika me saranam.

A. the lord is no offended by sankara

1. according to sankara the lord is a person. (BS 1.3.13)

3. the lord is non different from nirguna brahman. (BG 14.27)

3. it is very difficult for any one to conceive of His form though it

exists (BG 8.9-10)

4. the lord is beyond matter (avyakto paro narayana)

 

B. the supreme lord krishna is not offended by sankara

5. lord's appearance is spiritual not material (BG 4.4)

6. kesava is the controller of brahma, vishnu and siva (vishnu

sahasranama bhashya). it is another point that viswanath quotes this

without referring to sankara from who he took this )

7. govinda is worshipped as the supreme lord in vivekachudamani

invocation and his state as the goal of all spiritual practice

8. every work signed as an offering to sri govinda.

 

C. abode of vishnu is not offended by the lord

9. That abode to which having gone none return is the highest abode

of vishnu.

 

D. you are not offended by the lord

10. An integral portion of Myself-of the Supreme Self, of Narayana is

the eternal jiva (individual soul)(15.7)

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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, v_raja_ram wrote:

> the purpose of the post is to briefly explain that sankara does not

> offend any one as taught by the vaishnava schools.

 

Vaisnavas have no problem with Sankara; the problem is his mayavada teachings.

 

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I am afraid if mayavad and advaitam are same.. i dont think so .

 

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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, v_raja_ram wrote:> the purpose of the post is to briefly

explain that sankara does not > offend any one as taught by the vaishnava

schools. Vaisnavas have no problem with Sankara; the problem is his mayavada

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achintya, "v_raja_ram" <v_raja_ram> wrote:

> the purpose of the post is to briefly explain that sankara does not

> offend any one as taught by the vaishnava schools.

 

I can recall no instance in which Srila Prabhupada or any aachaarya

in his paramparaa listed in the inside front page of BG As It Is has

stated that "Shankara is an offender" or that "Shankara offends..."

But, feel free to ignore that as it is inconvenient in this case...

Obviously, in order to "prove" your thesis that Shankara is not

an "offender," it has to be understood that the Gaudiiya Vaishnava

aachaaryas have labeled him as such, even though they never did.

 

As always, feel free to prove me wrong with any explicit quotation of

Srila Prabhupada or one of his predecessors. Judging by your previous

lack of attention to detail, I'm not holding my breath though.

 

though otherwise

> perfect, sankara abuse is a flaw of the vaishnava schools of thought

 

All Vaishanvas have heavily scrutinized Shankara's writings to the

point of disagreeing with most if not all of them. If one cannot

distinguish such scholarly disagreement from "abuse," I sincerely

suggest that one is too histrionic to participate in a forum like

this, or any intellectual forum for that matter.

 

> which may be ignored like a dot on the moon. however, i consider it

> important to prevent abuse of the greatest acharya of all times.

> hence this post.

 

When one has first selected his conclusion, and then sets out to find

the evidence to "support" it, it seems unlikely that he has any

interest in changing his mind or admitting his error. Hence, my lack

of interest in this discussion. But if Sumeet or others feel your

method of planting strawman arguments, ignoring objections, or just

making up facts is worthy of debate, they are more than welcome to

respond.

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