Guest guest Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 the purpose of the post is to briefly explain that sankara does not offend any one as taught by the vaishnava schools. though otherwise perfect, sankara abuse is a flaw of the vaishnava schools of thought which may be ignored like a dot on the moon. however, i consider it important to prevent abuse of the greatest acharya of all times. hence this post. bhava sankara desika me saranam. A. the lord is no offended by sankara 1. according to sankara the lord is a person. (BS 1.3.13) 3. the lord is non different from nirguna brahman. (BG 14.27) 3. it is very difficult for any one to conceive of His form though it exists (BG 8.9-10) 4. the lord is beyond matter (avyakto paro narayana) B. the supreme lord krishna is not offended by sankara 5. lord's appearance is spiritual not material (BG 4.4) 6. kesava is the controller of brahma, vishnu and siva (vishnu sahasranama bhashya). it is another point that viswanath quotes this without referring to sankara from who he took this ) 7. govinda is worshipped as the supreme lord in vivekachudamani invocation and his state as the goal of all spiritual practice 8. every work signed as an offering to sri govinda. C. abode of vishnu is not offended by the lord 9. That abode to which having gone none return is the highest abode of vishnu. D. you are not offended by the lord 10. An integral portion of Myself-of the Supreme Self, of Narayana is the eternal jiva (individual soul)(15.7) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, v_raja_ram wrote: > the purpose of the post is to briefly explain that sankara does not > offend any one as taught by the vaishnava schools. Vaisnavas have no problem with Sankara; the problem is his mayavada teachings. MDd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 I am afraid if mayavad and advaitam are same.. i dont think so . THanxmpt (AT) myuw (DOT) net wrote: On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, v_raja_ram wrote:> the purpose of the post is to briefly explain that sankara does not > offend any one as taught by the vaishnava schools. Vaisnavas have no problem with Sankara; the problem is his mayavada teachings.MDdAchintya Homepage: achintyaDISCLAIMER: All postings appearing on Achintya are the property of their authors, and they may not be cross-posted to other forums without prior approval by said authors. Views expressed in Achintya postings are those of their authors only, and are not necessarily endorsed by the moderator or spiritual leaders of the Gaudiiya school. not necessarily endorsed by the moderator or spiritual leaders of the Gaudiiya school. Vote for the stars of 's next ad campaign! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 achintya, "v_raja_ram" <v_raja_ram> wrote: > the purpose of the post is to briefly explain that sankara does not > offend any one as taught by the vaishnava schools. I can recall no instance in which Srila Prabhupada or any aachaarya in his paramparaa listed in the inside front page of BG As It Is has stated that "Shankara is an offender" or that "Shankara offends..." But, feel free to ignore that as it is inconvenient in this case... Obviously, in order to "prove" your thesis that Shankara is not an "offender," it has to be understood that the Gaudiiya Vaishnava aachaaryas have labeled him as such, even though they never did. As always, feel free to prove me wrong with any explicit quotation of Srila Prabhupada or one of his predecessors. Judging by your previous lack of attention to detail, I'm not holding my breath though. though otherwise > perfect, sankara abuse is a flaw of the vaishnava schools of thought All Vaishanvas have heavily scrutinized Shankara's writings to the point of disagreeing with most if not all of them. If one cannot distinguish such scholarly disagreement from "abuse," I sincerely suggest that one is too histrionic to participate in a forum like this, or any intellectual forum for that matter. > which may be ignored like a dot on the moon. however, i consider it > important to prevent abuse of the greatest acharya of all times. > hence this post. When one has first selected his conclusion, and then sets out to find the evidence to "support" it, it seems unlikely that he has any interest in changing his mind or admitting his error. Hence, my lack of interest in this discussion. But if Sumeet or others feel your method of planting strawman arguments, ignoring objections, or just making up facts is worthy of debate, they are more than welcome to respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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