Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 Now coming back to padma purana verse, Visnu's arca is not considered to be ordinary just like any stray stone or pebble because of Vishnus presence in it sanctifies the arca. Recall bhagavata verses i had posted earlier: "While carrying the form of the Supreme Personality of Godhead within the core of his heart, Vasudeva bore the Lord's transcendentally illuminating effulgence, and thus he became as bright as the sun. He was therefore very difficult to see or approach through sensory perception. Indeed, he was unapproachable and unperceivable even for such formidable men as Kamsa, and not only for Kamsa but for all living entities." [sB 10.2.17] "Thereafter, accompanied by plenary expansions, the fully opulent Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is all-auspicious for the entire universe, was transferred from the mind of Vasudeva to the mind of Devaki. Devaki, having thus been initiated by Vasudeva, became beautiful by carrying Lord Krishna, the original consciousness for everyone, the cause of all causes, within the core of her heart, just as the east becomes beautiful by carrying the rising moon." [sB 10.2.18] Kindly note the way vyasa deva describes the beauty of devaki. East becomes beautiful because of it carrying moon, so devaki becomes beautiful because of her carrying Supreme Lord. Same way arca becomes as if it possesses enchanting beauty when brahman becomes samagaatya in/with it. "Because the Supreme Personality of Godhead was within her womb, Devakî illuminated the entire atmosphere in the place where she was confined. Seeing her jubilant, pure and smiling, Kamsa thought, "The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vishnu, who is now within her, will kill me. Devakî has never before looked so brilliant and jubilant." [sB 10.2.20] See over here both devaki and vasudeva, even though possess cit sarira or according to some prakrtic sarira, becomes very different from their normal states when they bear presence of Vishnu in them. All this actually establishes the glorious/supreme nature of visnu. He can make both matter and spirit look glorious by being present within them, just because he possesses Supreme nature. So even murti of Visnu becomes effulgent and sanctified by His divine presence. This mutri can talk, do anything as per will of Lord. antaryami vidya clearly says: Bhagavan is the inner controller. It is bhagavan only who makes Sun luminous. It is bhagavan who makes jivatman luminous and imparts it all spiritual attributes. So murti also becomes special and IS NOT AT ALL like stray stone or pebble lying on ground. In one line it is not ordinary because bhagavan has manifested his own svarupa. Bhagavan is actually present there, permeating it entirely. In our body he manifests himself within our heart along with jivaatman but in Arca he permeates it entirely, that is what is meant by joining it or coming together in form corresponding to the form of Arca.[sattvata Samhita] The Padma Purana verse addresses this type of mentality: http://www.sikhs.org/philos.htm "The stone he calls his god, in the end, drowns him with itself... Know that a boat of stone carries one not across" (Guru Arjan Dev, Suhi) "The stone neither speaks nor gives anything. Therefore its service is fruitless and its worship is of no avail." (Bhagat Kabir, Bhairo) Recall Lord krishna while criticizing fools who thinks his transcendental body to be same as just anyone elses says these people are ignorant of my param bhavam or Supreme State of existence, which is acintya rupam, aditya varnam, tamasat parah.... Same thing here those who are ignorant of Vishnus glory cannot realize that his presence in anything or anything even indirectly associated with him is glorious, such type of people are called possessors of hellish mentality. The interpretation i have put forward for padma purana verse is supported by bhagavata, gita and sruti and logic[scriptural logic]. Where as your interpretation of that verse that arca is absolutely identical to Visnu svarupa is neither there in the sanskrit of the verse, nor is substantiated by scriptures. All that you have given so far are purports of saintly person, SP and others. But i am sure you will agree, if they are found to conflict with scriptures, preference will be given to scriptures. It is totally upto you to accept this or refute it or ignore it. As a side note SP is not flawless. I discovered this, when i was reading his commentary on BG 15.18. There he has quoted Chandogya Upanisad 8.12.3 to describe paramatma the localized aspect of Supreme. This is wrong understanding of the Chandogya verse. Since this is beyond the scope of present topic, i shall not discuss this here anymore, but i can start a new topic about this. Your Servant Always, Sumeet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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