Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Haribol, In the state of deep sleep, there is no experience of internal (as in dream state) or external objects (as in waking state), and the mind is quiescent. But, still there is consciousness, established by the fact that after deep sleep there is a response, "I had a deep sleep". But, this state of consciousness is not awareness of any objects, internal and external and thus is considered the stage of ultimate realization. This seems to indicate that the ultimate state is one of non-dual consciousness with nothing else existing besides Atman (Brahman or Pure consciousness). So, my questions are, 1) How's the state of deep sleep explained in Gaudiya siddhanta? 2) Are there upanishadic statements that explicitly talk about a state where the individual unit of consciousness perceives other objects including the Supreme consciousness in the state of liberation? Awaiting reply, iys Aravind. Aravind Mohanram Ph.D. Candidate Dept. of Mat Sci and Engg., Penn State University, University Park, PA 16801 www.personal.psu.edu/aum105 Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 achintya, Aravind Mohanram <psuaravind> wrote: > Haribol, > > In the state of deep sleep, there is no experience of internal (as in dream state) or external objects (as in waking state), and the mind is quiescent. But, still there is consciousness, established by the fact that after deep sleep there is a response, "I had a deep sleep". But, this state of consciousness is not awareness of any objects, internal and external and thus is considered the stage of ultimate realization. > Considered by whom? I believe that is an Advaitin position. Where did you get this from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Hare Krishna, krishna_susarla <krishna_susarla wrote: Considered by whom? I believe that is an Advaitin position. Where did you get this from? >> Yes, Ofcourse. I remember reading it in a paper in the Indian Philosophical Quaterly. It was an analysis of Mandukya Upanishad with regard to deep sleep and consciousness. Anyways, I thought this was not relevant to the questions I posed. Sorry for being vague. I look forward to answers to the 2 Qs. Even answers by Vaishnava acharyas refuting the advaitin viewpoint would help. in your service, Aravind. Aravind Mohanram Ph.D. Candidate Dept. of Mat Sci and Engg., Penn State University, University Park, PA 16801 www.personal.psu.edu/aum105 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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