Guest guest Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 The following is from Sesi-khanda of Vayu Purana. These verses predict the advent of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the most merciful avatara of Lord Krsna. though it describes abt maharaprabhu.. there is a mention of maha mantra with krsihna first and rama second.. Sri Gautama said: Hearing Brahma's words, Lord Visnu, the infallible Supreme Personality of Godhead, spoke to the demigods words that revealed the most secret of secrets. He said: diti ja bhuvi jayadhvam jayadhvam bhaktarupinah kalau sankirtanarambhe bhavisyami sacisutah O demigods, please take birth as devotees on the earth. I will take birth as Saci-devi's son and I will start the sankirtana movement, a movement of chanting the holy names. kriite japai mama pritis tretayam homakarmabhih dvapare paricaryabhih kalau sankirtanair api In Satya-yuga I am pleased by japa, in Treta-yuga by yajna and karma, in Dvapara-yuga by worship, and in Kali-yuga I am pleased by the chanting of the holy names. brahmovaca bruhi me karunasindho kirtanam kim svarupakam katham vatra bhagavtah para pritir bhavisyati The demigod Brahma said: O ocean of mercy, please describe to us the nature of this movement of chanting the Lord's holy name. How should it be performed so that Your Lordship will be most pleased? sri bhagavan uvaca srnu brahman pravaksyami sankirtanam atah param samahitamana bhutva sarat sarataram hi yat The Supreme Personality of Godhead said: O Brahma, please listen carefully and I will describe to you the most exalted sankirtana movement. banamargair vedamargai ripunam tatra sanksayam bhaktanam taranam kritva khyapitam vayashah ksitau Walking either on the path of arrows or the path of the Vedas, I deliver the devotees, destroy their enemies, and place My glory on the earth. kalau nastadrisam esa matpadyarka udesyati For they who have become blinded by Kali-yuga, a verse with My holy names will rise like a glorious sun. This verse is: Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare sakrid dvistrir yathasakti yavaj jivam athapi va vyaaharan svapaco 'pi syan mama bhakto na samsayah One should chant this mantra once, twice, thrice, as many times as one is able, or again and again for as long as one lives. By chanting this mantra even a person who was a dogeater may become My devotee. Of this there is no doubt. sarvavedavido viprah puranagamaparagah na cen madbhaktabhaktas te dure tisthanti varitah Even if they are learned in all the Vedas and even if they have traveled to the farther shore of the Agamas and Puranas, they who are not devotees of My devotees cannot approach Me. They must stay far away from Me. PS: the link https://www.vedamsbooks.com/no17155.htm does not say about Seshi khanda however! Thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 where is this from(source) ? Because, there are so many predictions which are missing and hence in a way don't serve any purpose if we want to make a point. Dasa Narasimhan RAJGOPAL <scooty_ram wrote: The following is from Sesi-khanda of Vayu Purana. These verses predict the advent of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the most merciful avatara of Lord Krsna. though it describes abt maharaprabhu.. there is a mention of maha mantra with krsihna first and rama second.. PS: the link https://www.vedamsbooks.com/no17155.htm does not say about Seshi khanda however! Thanx New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 it is very hard to find upanishadic or puranic source of the mahamantra. i learn from reliable sources that the hare krishna form of the mahamantra is mentioned in caitanya bhagvatha bengali manuscripts also. as a contemporary literature of mahaprabhu, it is a strong evidence that caitanya mahaprabhu did chant hare krishna mahamantra. it has not been possible to track this form of the mantra in the upanishads and puranas. even it is not known if kalisantarana is quoted in any of the early works of the gaudiya sampradaya. also the existence of the recension with hare krishna form is debatable. however, vedic and puranic evidence is not very important as history has recorded that gaudiyas have been able to attract the attention of the lord by using the hare krishna form of the mantra through their intense love for krishna. this goes to prove that nama is not dependant on structural rules. achintya, ranganathan narasimhan <simhan74> wrote: > where is this from(source) ? Because, there are so many predictions which are missing and hence in a way don't serve any purpose if we want to make a point. > > Dasa > Narasimhan > > RAJGOPAL <scooty_ram> wrote: > > The following is from Sesi-khanda of Vayu Purana. These verses predict the advent of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the most merciful avatara of Lord Krsna. > > though it describes abt maharaprabhu.. there is a mention of maha mantra with krsihna first and rama second.. > > > PS: the link https://www.vedamsbooks.com/no17155.htm does not say about Seshi khanda however! > > > > Thanx > > > > > > > New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 achintya, "v_raja_ram" <v_raja_ram> wrote: > strong evidence that caitanya mahaprabhu did chant hare krishna > mahamantra. I don't think there was ever any doubt that Chaitanya chanted the Hare Krishna mahaamantra. also the > existence of the recension with hare krishna form is debatable. Why is that? Why is it that only the "Hare Krishna" recensions are debateable and not the "Hare Raama" recensions? Is there some objective basis on which this conclusion is offered? > however, vedic and puranic evidence is not very important as history > has recorded that gaudiyas have been able to attract the attention of > the lord by using the hare krishna form of the mantra through their > intense love for krishna. this goes to prove that nama is not > dependant on structural rules. The above logic is far from watertight. So the validity of the mantra depends on its popular appeal? Then before Chaitanya it had no validity, but after Chaitanya, now it is acceptable? Either something is bona fide or it is not. Many people think that Sai Baba has attracted the attention of the Lord by his "preaching" activities worldwide, but that does not prove that the mantras he offers are genuine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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