Guest guest Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 Chaitanya Bhagavatha Antya Khanda Chapter Three Para 7 - 11 Page 618 Translation by SarvabhAvana Dasa Sarvabhauma, says to Sri Caitanya "However, being such an intelligent person, what prompted you to take to the renounced order of life ? Please try to analyse and understand what, actualy, is to be gained by taking sannyasa. The first thing that happens upon taking sannyasa is that the person is immediately attacked by pride. By holding the sannyasa danda, he thinks that he is empowered with special knowledge and from then on never folds his hands or bows his head to anyone. When he meets a saintly soul, who according to the Vedas, is to be worshipped by smearing the dust from his lotus feet upon one's head. the sannyasi simply offers respect to him, not feeling any reason to be cautious. This sort of arrogance is not at all healthy. Try to understand this point from the verse of the Bhagavatham 11.29.16 Aware that the Supreme Personality of Godhead resides alondside the soul in every body, one should offer dandavat obeisances to every living being, even to dogs, cows, mules and outcastes. This is the proper standard for a Vaishnava, and only a charlatan devotee will act otherwise. The only thing that one gains by taking sannyasa is that one shaves off his sikha and receives respect and honour from many persons. This certainly is one big waste and thus the next disaster is that he loses all good sense. The living entity is meant to worship and serve the Supreme Lord but instead of that, the sannyasi calls himself, Narayana, the Supreme Personality of Godhead." This is what Sarvabhauma, the mayavadi ( a.k.a advaitin) sannyasi, says to Sri Caitanya denouncing taking up sannyasa. On the same topic he continues as follows in the same Chapter Three (Para 17 - 19) of Antya Khanda of Chaitanya Bhagavatha Page 620 Translation by SarvabhAvana Dasa "A sannyasi should utter the name of Narayana incessantly with loving devotion, but without this devotional attitude there is no advantage in becoming a renunciant. Consequently, I ask you why you have embarked upon this idea of becoming a sannyasi ? If you want to deliver the world by distributing the science of devotional service to Sri Krishna, then what compunction drove you to shave off you sikha and discard your brahmana thread ? If you argue that great spiritual stalwarts like Madhavendra Puri also became mendicants shaving off their hair and so on, then I will reply that you are not yet of the age to accept renounced order. These stalwarts took sannyas only after three quarters of their life had passed and after they had relished enough of social life. Whereas, you have just entered the youth of life - how can you justify taking sannyasa ? How can the renounced order help you to advance in spiritual realization, considering the devotion you already possess - as I saw manifest in your person ? All these ecstatic symptoms of love of Krsna are rarely achieved even by the great yogis, then why did you opt to be misled by illusion ?" To my dull intellect, the following in statements in CC appear contradictory to what is stated in CB above. Caitanya Caritamrta, Madhya Lila, Chapter 6, Text 69 - Text 76 "The sannyasi is vey meek and humble by nature, and His person is very beautiful to see. Consequently my affection for Him increases. (M.6.69) >From which sampradaya has He accepted sannyasa order, and what is His name ? (M.6.70) Gopinatha Acharya replied : "The Lord's name is Sri Krishna Caitanya and His sannyasa precepor is the greatly fortunate Kesava Bharati"(M.6.71) Sarvabhauma said,"Sri Krsna is a very good name, but He belongs to the Bharati community. Therefore He is a secon-class sannyasi." (M.6.72) Gopinatha Acharya replied:"Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu does not rely on any external formality. There is no need for Him to accept the sannyasa order from a superior sampradaya". (M.6.73) Sarvabhauma inquired : "Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu is in His full- fledged youthful life. How can He keep the principles of sannyasa ?" (M.6.74) I shall continually recite the Vedanta philosophy before Caitanya Mahaprabhu so that He may remain fixed in His renunciation and thus enter upon the path of monism." (M.6.75) Sarvabhauma then suggested,"If Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu would like, I could bring Him in to a first class sampradaya by ofering saffron cloth and performing the reformatory process again" I request clarification based on works of gaudiya acharyas. I learn that Srila Bhaktisiddhanta has resolved this contradition. If some one can post his purport, I would appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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