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Hare Krishna

 

I just stumbled across this web page:

http://www.dvaita.org/shaastra/gita/prabhupada_review.shtml

and all I can say is that I don't like it at all. However I'm not

sufficiently educated to address its harsh criticism. I'm even

reluctant to bring any attention to the page, except that I have faith

that the Vaishnavas here are fully capable of defending Srila

Prabhupada.

 

Hare Krishna.

 

Your aspiring servant,

Pandu das

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There is no need to respond to the criticism in my

opinion, as it certainly wouldn't be the view of all

madhwa followers.

 

In fact, there will always be minor differences in

beliefs of sects. If the differences aren't major, it

is wiser to regard them as a manifestation of "Maya"

and not magnify them to create further division.

 

If some person from Madhva wants to create animosity

between two great sects of Vaishnavism, then it is

better to react to it in a "ignore it" manner than in

a "ohmigod" manner.

 

The current time demands a convergence and not

divergence. Great number of things are common between

vishistadvaita, dvaita and achintya, so lets sing the

praises of those.

 

Srila Prabhupada doesn't need a signature of approval

from some follower, who is rather under the influence

of "Maya" at the moment, as shown by his unnecessary

aggression.

 

The greatness of the Holy Srila Prabhupada is

unconditional and unshakeable!

 

 

--- Pandu das <Pandu108.bms wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hare Krishna

 

I just stumbled across this web page:

http://www.dvaita.org/shaastra/gita/prabhupada_review.shtml

and all I can say is that I don't like it at all.

However I'm not

sufficiently educated to address its harsh criticism.

I'm even

reluctant to bring any attention to the page, except

that I have faith

that the Vaishnavas here are fully capable of

defending Srila

Prabhupada.

 

Hare Krishna.

 

Your aspiring servant,

Pandu das

 

 

 

 

 

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At the same time, slightly contrasting with my earlier

posting, I am sure there are a lot of people here, who

can convincingly answer to the criticism without being

counter-aggressive.

 

And Pandu Dasji, I can understand that anyone would

feel disconcerted when his/her Guru is demeaned.

And for this reason alone, this question deserves an

answer in a non-aggressive manner. So please disregard

my earlier posting, which asked to ignore the webpage

criticism of Srila Prabhupada.

 

-Subash

 

PS - "Please do forgive me if I have shown traces of

ego ever."

 

 

 

--- subash r <rajaasub wrote:

 

 

There is no need to respond to the criticism in my

opinion, as it certainly wouldn't be the view of all

madhwa followers.

 

In fact, there will always be minor differences in

beliefs of sects. If the differences aren't major, it

is wiser to regard them as a manifestation of "Maya"

and not magnify them to create further division.

 

If some person from Madhva wants to create animosity

between two great sects of Vaishnavism, then it is

better to react to it in a "ignore it" manner than in

a "ohmigod" manner.

 

The current time demands a convergence and not

divergence. Great number of things are common between

vishistadvaita, dvaita and achintya, so lets sing the

praises of those.

 

Srila Prabhupada doesn't need a signature of approval

from some follower, who is rather under the influence

of "Maya" at the moment, as shown by his unnecessary

aggression.

 

The greatness of the Holy Srila Prabhupada is

unconditional and unshakeable!

 

 

--- Pandu das <Pandu108.bms wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hare Krishna

 

I just stumbled across this web page:

http://www.dvaita.org/shaastra/gita/prabhupada_review.shtml

and all I can say is that I don't like it at all.

However I'm not

sufficiently educated to address its harsh criticism.

I'm even

reluctant to bring any attention to the page, except

that I have faith

that the Vaishnavas here are fully capable of

defending Srila

Prabhupada.

 

Hare Krishna.

 

Your aspiring servant,

Pandu das

 

 

 

 

 

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achintya, Pandu das <Pandu108.bms@g...> wrote:

>

>

> Hare Krishna

>

> I just stumbled across this web page:

> http://www.dvaita.org/shaastra/gita/prabhupada_review.shtml

> and all I can say is that I don't like it at all. However I'm not

> sufficiently educated to address its harsh criticism. I'm even

> reluctant to bring any attention to the page, except that I have

faith

> that the Vaishnavas here are fully capable of defending Srila

> Prabhupada.

>

> Hare Krishna.

>

> Your aspiring servant,

> Pandu das

 

This is a very old posting, and the arguments are nothing new.

Frankly, the logic in that paper and others like it is so childish

that it is almost better not to dignify it with a response. For what

it's worth, you don't have to be very educated to pick apart the

flaws in the paper - just look at it objectively.

 

Srisha Rao seems to think it is some kind of revelation that there

are philosophical differences between Maadhvas and Gaudiiyas. Much of

his thrust is based on driving home these differences as if he is

somehow unearthing a secret which Gaudiiyas have tried to cover up.

Unfortunately, Gaudiiyas have never claimed to be Maadhvas in their

outlook, and this minor point cannot be acknowledged by him, because

then much of his argument loses its momentum.

 

In my experience, the Maadhvas on the internet are simply not

interested in discussing the issues truthfully. I have sought to

engage in discussion several Maadhvas whom I thought to be totally

reasonable, only to be disappointed with their attitudes. I pointed

out, using much evidence, that Gaudiiyas never claimed to be

Maadhvas, that they in fact have clearly claimed to belong to a

different school of thought, and that they have even acknowledged

these differences. In all cases, I provided references, but the

Maadhvas did not want to listen to them, because their criticism of

Gaudiiyas is based on the fiction that Gaudiiyas claim to be

Tattvavaadis. This is known as dishonesty.

 

I am amazed at the lengths many of these Maadhvas go to in order to

criticize Gaudiiyas. Veteran members of this list will remember an

incident 2-3 years ago where one of the Maadhva list members came

over here and tried to start some trouble. The lad had no clue as to

even basic Vedaantic philosophy, and could not even spell properly or

write in complete sentences, but still he knew that he just had to

write all sorts of scurrilous invective against Gaudiiyas. I think

his name was Abhishek or something like that... had a address

as I recall. Then there was the video interview and letters of the

Ashta-Matha Swamis praising Prabhupada. Rather than follow their

examples, the Maadhva juniors simply turned on the Swamis and accused

them of all sorts of things. It really amazes me how those who don't

share the "party line" of animosity towards the Gaudiiya sampradaaya

are quickly marginalized - even when they are the leaders!

 

Anyway, feel free to discuss it if you wish. I think the Maadhvas

have 1 or 2 admirers here. Maybe they will have something intelligent

to say about Srisha Rao's arguments, although given past experience,

I am not holding my breath.

 

yours,

 

- K

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