Guest guest Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Hare Krishna I just stumbled across this web page: http://www.dvaita.org/shaastra/gita/prabhupada_review.shtml and all I can say is that I don't like it at all. However I'm not sufficiently educated to address its harsh criticism. I'm even reluctant to bring any attention to the page, except that I have faith that the Vaishnavas here are fully capable of defending Srila Prabhupada. Hare Krishna. Your aspiring servant, Pandu das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 There is no need to respond to the criticism in my opinion, as it certainly wouldn't be the view of all madhwa followers. In fact, there will always be minor differences in beliefs of sects. If the differences aren't major, it is wiser to regard them as a manifestation of "Maya" and not magnify them to create further division. If some person from Madhva wants to create animosity between two great sects of Vaishnavism, then it is better to react to it in a "ignore it" manner than in a "ohmigod" manner. The current time demands a convergence and not divergence. Great number of things are common between vishistadvaita, dvaita and achintya, so lets sing the praises of those. Srila Prabhupada doesn't need a signature of approval from some follower, who is rather under the influence of "Maya" at the moment, as shown by his unnecessary aggression. The greatness of the Holy Srila Prabhupada is unconditional and unshakeable! --- Pandu das <Pandu108.bms wrote: Hare Krishna I just stumbled across this web page: http://www.dvaita.org/shaastra/gita/prabhupada_review.shtml and all I can say is that I don't like it at all. However I'm not sufficiently educated to address its harsh criticism. I'm even reluctant to bring any attention to the page, except that I have faith that the Vaishnavas here are fully capable of defending Srila Prabhupada. Hare Krishna. Your aspiring servant, Pandu das Achintya Homepage: achintya DISCLAIMER: All postings appearing on Achintya are the property of their authors, and they may not be cross-posted to other forums without prior approval by said authors. Views expressed in Achintya postings are those of their authors only, and are not necessarily endorsed by the moderator or spiritual leaders of the Gaudiiya school. Sponsor Children International Would you give Hope to a Child in need? · Click Here to meet a Girl And Give Her Hope · Click Here to meet a Boy And Change His Life Learn More achintya/ achintya Terms of Service. ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 At the same time, slightly contrasting with my earlier posting, I am sure there are a lot of people here, who can convincingly answer to the criticism without being counter-aggressive. And Pandu Dasji, I can understand that anyone would feel disconcerted when his/her Guru is demeaned. And for this reason alone, this question deserves an answer in a non-aggressive manner. So please disregard my earlier posting, which asked to ignore the webpage criticism of Srila Prabhupada. -Subash PS - "Please do forgive me if I have shown traces of ego ever." --- subash r <rajaasub wrote: There is no need to respond to the criticism in my opinion, as it certainly wouldn't be the view of all madhwa followers. In fact, there will always be minor differences in beliefs of sects. If the differences aren't major, it is wiser to regard them as a manifestation of "Maya" and not magnify them to create further division. If some person from Madhva wants to create animosity between two great sects of Vaishnavism, then it is better to react to it in a "ignore it" manner than in a "ohmigod" manner. The current time demands a convergence and not divergence. Great number of things are common between vishistadvaita, dvaita and achintya, so lets sing the praises of those. Srila Prabhupada doesn't need a signature of approval from some follower, who is rather under the influence of "Maya" at the moment, as shown by his unnecessary aggression. The greatness of the Holy Srila Prabhupada is unconditional and unshakeable! --- Pandu das <Pandu108.bms wrote: Hare Krishna I just stumbled across this web page: http://www.dvaita.org/shaastra/gita/prabhupada_review.shtml and all I can say is that I don't like it at all. However I'm not sufficiently educated to address its harsh criticism. I'm even reluctant to bring any attention to the page, except that I have faith that the Vaishnavas here are fully capable of defending Srila Prabhupada. Hare Krishna. Your aspiring servant, Pandu das Achintya Homepage: achintya DISCLAIMER: All postings appearing on Achintya are the property of their authors, and they may not be cross-posted to other forums without prior approval by said authors. Views expressed in Achintya postings are those of their authors only, and are not necessarily endorsed by the moderator or spiritual leaders of the Gaudiiya school. Sponsor Children International Would you give Hope to a Child in need? · Click Here to meet a Girl And Give Her Hope · Click Here to meet a Boy And Change His Life Learn More achintya/ achintya Terms of Service. ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony Achintya Homepage: achintya DISCLAIMER: All postings appearing on Achintya are the property of their authors, and they may not be cross-posted to other forums without prior approval by said authors. Views expressed in Achintya postings are those of their authors only, and are not necessarily endorsed by the moderator or spiritual leaders of the Gaudiiya school. Sponsor Children International Would you give Hope to a Child in need? · Click Here to meet a Girl And Give Her Hope · Click Here to meet a Boy And Change His Life Learn More achintya/ achintya Terms of Service. ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 achintya, Pandu das <Pandu108.bms@g...> wrote: > > > Hare Krishna > > I just stumbled across this web page: > http://www.dvaita.org/shaastra/gita/prabhupada_review.shtml > and all I can say is that I don't like it at all. However I'm not > sufficiently educated to address its harsh criticism. I'm even > reluctant to bring any attention to the page, except that I have faith > that the Vaishnavas here are fully capable of defending Srila > Prabhupada. > > Hare Krishna. > > Your aspiring servant, > Pandu das This is a very old posting, and the arguments are nothing new. Frankly, the logic in that paper and others like it is so childish that it is almost better not to dignify it with a response. For what it's worth, you don't have to be very educated to pick apart the flaws in the paper - just look at it objectively. Srisha Rao seems to think it is some kind of revelation that there are philosophical differences between Maadhvas and Gaudiiyas. Much of his thrust is based on driving home these differences as if he is somehow unearthing a secret which Gaudiiyas have tried to cover up. Unfortunately, Gaudiiyas have never claimed to be Maadhvas in their outlook, and this minor point cannot be acknowledged by him, because then much of his argument loses its momentum. In my experience, the Maadhvas on the internet are simply not interested in discussing the issues truthfully. I have sought to engage in discussion several Maadhvas whom I thought to be totally reasonable, only to be disappointed with their attitudes. I pointed out, using much evidence, that Gaudiiyas never claimed to be Maadhvas, that they in fact have clearly claimed to belong to a different school of thought, and that they have even acknowledged these differences. In all cases, I provided references, but the Maadhvas did not want to listen to them, because their criticism of Gaudiiyas is based on the fiction that Gaudiiyas claim to be Tattvavaadis. This is known as dishonesty. I am amazed at the lengths many of these Maadhvas go to in order to criticize Gaudiiyas. Veteran members of this list will remember an incident 2-3 years ago where one of the Maadhva list members came over here and tried to start some trouble. The lad had no clue as to even basic Vedaantic philosophy, and could not even spell properly or write in complete sentences, but still he knew that he just had to write all sorts of scurrilous invective against Gaudiiyas. I think his name was Abhishek or something like that... had a address as I recall. Then there was the video interview and letters of the Ashta-Matha Swamis praising Prabhupada. Rather than follow their examples, the Maadhva juniors simply turned on the Swamis and accused them of all sorts of things. It really amazes me how those who don't share the "party line" of animosity towards the Gaudiiya sampradaaya are quickly marginalized - even when they are the leaders! Anyway, feel free to discuss it if you wish. I think the Maadhvas have 1 or 2 admirers here. Maybe they will have something intelligent to say about Srisha Rao's arguments, although given past experience, I am not holding my breath. yours, - K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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