Brihadaranyaka upanishad

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The following translation from BrihadAranyaka

upanishad

part 1, chapter 4, verse 10 says that one should not

maintain a distinction between worshipper and the

worshipped. It seems to be against bhakthi yoga. What

is the Vaishnavite position on this?

 

"

This self was indeed Brahman in the beginning. It knew

itself only as "I am Brahman." Therefore it became

all. And whoever among the gods had this

enlightenment, also became That Brahman. It is the

same with the seers (rishis), the same with men. The

seer Vamadeva, having realized this self as That, came

to know: "I was Manu and the sun." And to this day,

whoever in a like manner knows the self as "I am

Brahman," becomes all this universe. Even the gods

cannot prevent his becoming this, for he has become

their Self.

Now, if a man worships another deity, thinking: "He is

one and I am another," he does not know. He is like an

animal to the gods. As many animals serve a man, so

does each man serve the gods. Even if one animal is

taken away, it causes anguish to the owner; how much

more so when many are taken away! Therefore it is not

pleasing to the gods that men should know this."

 

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achintya, subash r <rajaasub> wrote:

>

> The following translation from BrihadAranyaka

> upanishad

> part 1, chapter 4, verse 10 says that one should not

> maintain a distinction between worshipper and the

> worshipped. It seems to be against bhakthi yoga. What

> is the Vaishnavite position on this?

 

I have Madhva' commentary on the BU. I looked at 1.4.10 but it does not

say anything to that effect. Perhaps the numbering is different in our

two prints. Can you type out the Sanskrit for the mantra in question?

This will help me zero in on it.

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Dear Krishnaji,

 

This is the verse I think, extracted from a site.

 

##\centerline{pM22/k10}##

ta\`ddhaita\`tpa\`shyannR^ishhirvAma\`devaH

pra\`tipedeH

aha\`M ma\`nurabhava{\m+} sU\`ryashche\`ti |

ta\`dida\`ma\`py eta\`rhi ya\` eva\`M ve\`dAha\`M

bra\`hmAsmI\`ti,

sa\` ida\`{\m+} sa\`rvaM bhavati,

ta\`sya ha na\` devA\`shchanA\`bhUtyA Ishata,

AtmA\` hy e\`shhA\`{\m+} sa\` bha\`vati |

a\`tha yo\`.anyA\`M deva\`tAmupA\`steH

anyo\`.asA\`u

anyo\`.aha\`masmI\`ti,

na\` sa\` veda |

ya\`thA pashu\`reva\`{\m+} sa\` devA\`nAM |

ya\`thA ha vai\` baha\`vaH pasha\`vo manushhya\`M

bhu~Njyu\`H

eva\`me\`kaikaH pu\`rushho devA\`nbhunakti |

e\`kasminneva\` pashA\`vAdIya\`mAne\`.apriyaM bhavati,

ki\`mu bahu\`shhu;

ta\`smAdeshhAM ta\`nna\` priya\`M

ya\`deta\`nmanushhyA\` vidyu\`H |

 

 

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achintya, subash r

<rajaasub> wrote:

>

> The following translation from BrihadAranyaka

> upanishad

> part 1, chapter 4, verse 10 says that one should not

> maintain a distinction between worshipper and the

> worshipped. It seems to be against bhakthi yoga.

What

> is the Vaishnavite position on this?

 

I have Madhva' commentary on the BU. I looked at

1.4.10 but it does not

say anything to that effect. Perhaps the numbering is

different in our

two prints. Can you type out the Sanskrit for the

mantra in question?

This will help me zero in on it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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