offenses

[Guest guest]

Dandavat pranam to all Maharajas, prabhus etc

 

Hare are some more of my notes on offenses

 

 

OFFENDERS ARE WORST THAN DRUNKARDS

 

where Vaisnavas are offended may consist of highly pious persons still all their

mercy is depleted. If Vaisnavas are offended even by an assembly of

renunciates, sannyasis, such an assembly is more irreligious than a group of

drunkards. For the drunks there is still a chance for salvation but for those

ìwho are critical of Vaisnavas there is no hope for liberation.

 

 

 

One never advances in spiritual life by finding faults in other Vaisnavas, in

fact only sinful reactions are increased so give up all your fault findings.

 

 

 

When one is impudent toward a highly authorized devotee, one is punished by the

laws of nature. The duration of his life is diminished, and he loses the

blessings of superior persons and the results of pious activities. (SB 7.8.3-4

p)

 

 

 

10.4.46

 

Ayuḥ shriyam yasho dharaam lokAn Ashiṣa eva ca

 

hanti shreyAḿsi sarvAṇi puḿso mahad-atikramah

 

"When one mistreats great souls, his life span, opulence, reputation, religion,

possessions and good fortune are all destroyed."

 

 

 

At Vrndavana the offenders are punished. But a person who has committed hundreds

of offenses can easily receive the mercy of Nityananda Prabhu and overcome those

offenses in Navadvipa-dhama. For this reason, sages endlessly praise Navadvipa

of Gaura-mandala. (Navadvipa Dhama Mahatmya)

 

ys: Avadhuta Raya das

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hare Krishna. Please accept my humble obeisances.

 

I have to say that I find the whole topic of offenses very confusing.

Ideally, I understand it; actually it makes perfect sense. But in life

as I experience it, trying to avoid offenses becomes terribly

complicated.

 

I think I'd prefer not to specify examples, but there are some issues

that have divided groups of Vaishnavas, so that two, three, or more

groups exist in disagreement with each other, and sometimes the

disagreement becomes fairly hostile. It seems unavoidable that one

eventually has to choose a viewpoint, and thus it appears that it is

impossible to avoid offenses. What does one do when the time comes to

take a stand, and it's apparent that there are offenses being made all

around?

 

Also it is fairly easy to think of some individuals who can be

considered very high Vaishnavas when looking at the positive side of

their lives, or can be seen as being very deviant criminals due to some

incredibly nasty actions. What is the best way to view a devotee with

such contradictory behaviors?

 

I think understanding how to handle these situations would help me a

lot, so thanks in advance to anyone who can give proper guidance. Hare

Krishna.

 

Your servant,

Pandu das