Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Dear all, Hare Krishna. I have a question from my brother in phoenix, Arizona. He likes the Udipi temple there, but the Demigod worship there is too strong so much so that he even doubts their connection to Madhva sampradaya.Now they are doing Chandika Maha Yagna, every friday they chant Mahisasura Mardhini. He wishes to know the following: 1) Is demigod worship philosophically *acceptable* in the Madhwa Sampradaya? 2) If so, is it *recommended*? If not, why do they still do it, don't they seek Moksha than just rather materialist things like dhanam, vidhya, etc?? 3) If (1) is not true, why do we see demigod worship in Madhwa Sampradaya?? I must add here that he is also sad to see the trend in ISKCON temples too, where Ganesha Chathurthi and Durga Puja and Siva Rathri are celebrated pompously. Any comments on this? dasa Narasimhan Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 achintya, ranganathan narasimhan <simhan74> wrote: > > Dear all, > > Hare Krishna. I have a question from my brother in > phoenix, Arizona. He likes the Udipi temple there, but > the Demigod worship there is too strong so much so > that he even doubts their connection to Madhva > sampradaya.Now they are doing Chandika Maha Yagna, > every friday they chant Mahisasura Mardhini. > > He wishes to know the following: > > 1) Is demigod worship philosophically *acceptable* in > the Madhwa Sampradaya? Yes, it is. Being from a Madhva family, I know that there are several pujas and festivals that are celebrated for the devatas. However, Madhvas always are supposed to keep in mind the devatA- tArAtamya, the hierarchy of superiority of the various devatAs with Sri Hari as sarvottama. > 2) If so, is it *recommended*? If not, why do they > still do it, don't they seek Moksha than just rather > materialist things like dhanam, vidhya, etc?? It is recommended, since it is considered Sri Hari's system. Let me give you an example. Married women are expected to do the Mangala- Gauri puja to pray for the well-being of their husbands. This puja is a prayer to PArvatI. So technically, this comes under "kAmya- karma", ie, where you are seeking some material benefit. But being kAmya-karma does not make it condemnable, since even kAmya-karmas can become karma-free if the motivation is clear. The wife wants her husband to live a long life, so that she can serve him, and in return, the husband facilitates her sAdhanA, and family life goes on well, according to the varNAshrama-system. If pleasing Sri Hari is the goal, then what is the harm in approaching His representatives who He has authorized? Now, having said that, many Madhvas do seek the material benefits without having the sAdhanA for moksha as the goal. That misses the goal of the demigod worship. Gaudiyas and SriVaishnavas are known to look down upon demigod worship much more than Madhvas. For Madhvas, devatA-tArAtamya is quite important. > 3) If (1) is not true, why do we see demigod worship > in Madhwa Sampradaya?? Demigod worship keeping in mind "Hari sarvottamatva" and "devatA- tArAtamya" is part of the sampradAya. There are several instances where you find demigods giving excellent lessons. In the talavakAra (kena) Upanishad, PArvatI gives a lesson to Indra when out of arrogance, he and others think that the battle which was actually won by the grace of Sri Hari, is their victory. In the Mahabharata, Lord Shiva gives long lessons to pArvati about how the laws of karma function, and about strI-dharma etc. All this cannot be just discarded in the name of worshipping Sri Hari. So Madhvas are supposed to have demigod worship as part of their sAdhanA, as a service to Sri Hari's representatives. > > I must add here that he is also sad to see the trend > in ISKCON temples too, where Ganesha Chathurthi and > Durga Puja and Siva Rathri are celebrated pompously. > I am not sure about the conception of Gaudiyas when they celebrate these festivals. For Madhvas, I know for sure that they are supposed to consider all the powers of devatAs as Sri Hari's own powers. For sure, many of them don't do it. It ultimately boils down to what the acharyas have recommended - for Gaudiyas, they do not recommend demigod worship (at least not so much), for Madhvas, they do. Regards, Anant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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