Sri Madhva's commentary to SB 11.7.51

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Dear all,

 

Hare Krishna. I came across the following commentary by Sri Madhvacharya to SB

11.7.51. Is he talking about ABA?

 

avaya-vyavayavänäm ca guNänäm guNinas tathä |

sakti-saktimatos caiva kriyäyäs tadvatas tathä ||

svarüpämscämsinos caiva nityäbhedo janärdane |

jIva-svarüpesu tathä tathaiva prakrtäv api |

cid-rüpäyäm ato’namsä aguNä akriyä iti |

hInä avayavais ceti kathyante te tv abhedatah |

prthag-guNädy-abhäväc ca nityatväd ubhayor api |

visnor acintya-saktes ca sarvam sambhavati dhruvam |

kriyäder api nityatvam vyakty-avyakti-viseshaNam |

bhäväbhäva-visesheNa vyavahäras ca tädrsah |

viseshasya visishtasyäpy abhedas tadvad eva tu |

sarvam cäcintya-saktitväd yujyate paramesvare |

tac-chaktyaiva tu jIveshu cid-rüpa-prakrtäv api |

bhedäbhedau tad anyatra hy ubhayor api darsanät |

kärya-käraNayos cäpi nimittam käraNam vinä || iti brahma-tarke ||

 

ätmani caivam viciträs ca hi | sarvopetä ca tad-darsanät |

sarva-dharmopapattes ca | sväbhävikI jnäna-bala-kriyä ca | yatra sapta rishIn

para ekam ähur ity ädes ca | naiväsatyam kvacid asmin parese sarvam yuktam

pürNa-sakteh sadaiva iti ca visvambhara-srutih | tasmäd ekasminn api sarIre

bhedäbhedät prabhaväpyayau yujyate, na ca virodhah | sthüla-sükshmavat |

äpekshikam aträpi yujyate |

buddhi-samsthas tv ätma-bhedo’vyaktastho jIva ucyate |

tenaiva saha samsthänät parätmä sthüla-buddhibhih |

jIvaval lakshyate vishNur yathaivämbusthitärkavat |

paramärkah pärimäNyädd vartulatvädinä tathä ||

arka-svarüpänabhijnaih siram pädädi-varjitah |

acetanas ca kalpeta tat-tejo-mätra-darsibhih ||

sürya-dehädi-bhinnam hi tejo-maNdalam eva tu |

drishyate sthüla-matibhir evam eva janärdana || iti prabhäsake ||51||

 

 

Dasa

Narasimhan

 

 

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>Hare Krishna. I came across the following commentary by Sri Madhvacharya to SB

11.7.51. Is he talking about ABA?

 

 

Hare Krishna, this commentary quotes the Brahma-tarka on the concept of visesa

which describes an entity in relation to its own aspects declaring them to be

identical. Matter has an additional relationship to itself called bheda-abheda,

since it undergoes transformation. This is not true of the Lord and the souls.

This concept is a very important building block of achintya-bheda-abheda which

describes the relationship of the distinct entities: matter, the souls, and the

Lord. However, as far as I know there is no specific indication of

achintya-bheda-abheda in it. It would be great to have a translation of this

passage.

 

ys

Gerald

 

 

 

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Surya ji,

Hare Krsna.

 

> Hare Krishna, this commentary quotes the Brahma-tarka on the concept

of visesa which describes an entity in relation to its own aspects

declaring them to be identical. Matter has an additional relationship

to itself called bheda-abheda, since it undergoes transformation. This

is not true of the Lord and the souls. This concept is a very

important building block of achintya-bheda-abheda which describes the

relationship of the distinct entities: matter, the souls, and the

Lord. However, as far as I know there is no specific indication of

achintya-bheda-abheda in it. It would be great to have a translation

of this passage.

 

Could you pls explain how Madhvacarya's concepts of acintya-sakti,

savisheshAbheda and bheda-abheda are building blocks for the Gaudiya

acintya-bheda-abheda explanation of the relations between Matter,

Souls and God?

 

Also, is it true that Madhvacarya made any explicit warnings against

such an extension? BNK Sharma ji seems to think so. Could you pls comment?

 

Yours gratefully,

Carl