Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 Haribol, I like something that glorifies Lord Caitanya directly as opposed to Krsna varnam... even though it is a great verse. Also Krishna can you send all my achintya mail to radhaktkg In the process of moving out of AOL. ys rkd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 If any of you remember looking at Srisha's Dvaita home page (not that I'm suggesting that you look now, in case you don't remember), there is at the top of the page, just under the image of Udupi Krishna, a verse from Madhva's _Vishnutattvavinirnaya_ invocation in which he salutes Lord Naaraayana. I was thinking that if there was a Gaudiiya Vaishnava home page, and we wanted to put one single verse from either the scriptures or our aachaaryas' writings that somehow represented the spirit of Gaudiiya Vaishnavism, then what would it be? I thought of a few ideas. For example: ete chaamsha kalaaH pumsaH kR^iShNas tu bhagavaan svayam -- from SB 1.3.28, the verse stating that Lord Krishna is the original Bhagavaan, which is regarded by Jiva Gosvami as the key verse to understanding the rest of the Bhaagavatam. sarva dharmaan parityajya maam ekam sharanam vrajaa, etc. Rupa Gosvami's anyaabhilaashita shunyam verse in which he defines uttama bhakti from Bhakti-Rasaamrita Sindhu kR^iShNa varnam tviShaa kR^iShNam verse from SB There are many other possibilities. What others would you guys suggest? -- verses that say something about our sampradaaya, and/or that define us in the broader Vaishnava tradition. - K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 Haribol, Another candidate is this traditionally celebrated verse from Srinatha Cakravarti Prabhu's Bhagavatam commentary, Caitanya-mata-manjusha (1.1.1); for whatever reason, Srila Prabhupada rarely if ever quoted it in full: ArAdhyo bhagavAn vrajeza-tanayas tad-dhAma vRndAvanaM ramyA kAcid upAsanA vraja-vadhU-vargeNa yA kalpitA | zrImad bhAgavataM pramANam amalaM premA-pum-artho mahAn zrI caitanya mahAprabhor matam idaM tatrAdaro naH paraH || "Our worshipable Personality of Godhead is Vrajendra-nandana, the son of Nanda Maharaja. Vrndavana is His abode. The path conceived of by the gopis is the topmost method of worship. Srimad Bhagavatam is the spotless authority. Love of Godhead is the superlative human achievement. This is the view of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, for which we have the highest respect and love." Some readings instead give "purANam amalam" in pada C, which would be "spotless purana." > verse from Madhva's _Vishnutattvavinirnaya_ invocation in which he > salutes Lord Naaraayana. I think it also prefaces other works of his, like the invocations in the Upanisads sometimes do. MDd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 In a message dated 3/24/01 11:28:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, krishna writes: > > This verse is awesome! Yes amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 achintya, "M. Tandy" <mpt@u...> wrote: > > Haribol, > > Another candidate is this traditionally celebrated verse from Srinatha > Cakravarti Prabhu's Bhagavatam commentary, Caitanya-mata-manjusha (1.1.1); > for whatever reason, Srila Prabhupada rarely if ever quoted it in full: > > ArAdhyo bhagavAn vrajeza-tanayas tad-dhAma vRndAvanaM > ramyA kAcid upAsanA vraja-vadhU-vargeNa yA kalpitA | > zrImad bhAgavataM pramANam amalaM premA-pum-artho mahAn > zrI caitanya mahAprabhor matam idaM tatrAdaro naH paraH || This verse is awesome! I'm glad I took the time to ask, because somehow nothing I mentioned seemed to feel exactly right. It's too bad though, that this verse didn't come from someone more mainstream. I don't think I even know who Srinath Chakravarti is... could you furnish more biographical details? Also, which reading of this verse does Srila Prabhupada quote -- the pramANam amalaM reading, or the puraaNam amalaM reading? - K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2001 Report Share Posted March 25, 2001 On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Hari Krishna Susarla wrote: > > ArAdhyo bhagavAn vrajeza-tanayas tad-dhAma vRndAvanaM > > ramyA kAcid upAsanA vraja-vadhU-vargeNa yA kalpitA | > > zrImad bhAgavataM pramANam amalaM premA-pum-artho mahAn > > zrI caitanya mahAprabhor matam idaM tatrAdaro naH paraH || > This verse is awesome! I'm glad I took the time to ask, because > somehow nothing I mentioned seemed to feel exactly right. It's too > bad though, that this verse didn't come from someone more mainstream. > I don't think I even know who Srinath Chakravarti is... could you > furnish more biographical details? If my memory is correct, he was either the guru or disciple of Narahari Thakura. It isn't necessarily that he's not mainstream. Through usage, this verse has also become one of the most oft-quoted verses in our line; I'd guess that it's the most cited one from his whole commentary, simply because it so neatly encapsulates Gaudiya vaisnava siddhanta. Prabhupada also quotes it quite a bit, but usually only one line at a time. And his understanding of it seems much more catholic, so to speak, than that of, say, Narayana Maharaja--especially in that genuinely accomodates *all* of the rasas; for example, see his comments on the second line in Bhagavatam, 10.6.35-6 or 10.8.45. > Also, which reading of this verse does Srila Prabhupada quote -- the > pramANam amalaM reading, or the puraaNam amalaM reading? Actually, I just did a folio search and discovered that he does quote the whole verse at least once, in a lecture on Bhagavad-gita 4.12-13, in New York, July 29, 1966. There he says, "puranam." It also seems like he usually says "amalaM puranam," instead of "puranam amalam." MDd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2001 Report Share Posted March 25, 2001 On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 Mrgerald wrote: > In a message dated 3/24/01 11:28:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, > krishna writes: > > This verse is awesome! > Yes amazing! Yes, it's pretty cool. I'm surprized you haven't seen it before; it commonly appears in scholarly and even Gaudiya Matha books. It's usually cited for the very purpose for which you were seeking one, the same purpose for which it was written. For more background on Srinatha Cakravarti, try Ramakanta Cakravarti's _Vaishnavism in Bengal_, maybe some of S.K. De's works (but watch out--he's a big rascal), or the older one by Melville Kennedy. MDd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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