verse sources

[Guest guest]

I am looking for the sanskrit verses, the (rough) translations of

which are given below. If any of you have it handy, can you post them.

The translations are:

 

 

1. In this age, the offenses made by mind do not bring any bad reaction.

Only those made by actions bring reactions.

 

2. The life span of a person is designed such that it is just sufficient

for a person who uses it completely to go back to godhead.

 

3. In the age of kaliyuga, the effect of kali is first and fast felt in

the holy places.

 

I am hoping that there are some verses for the above

translations. I heard these translations from others, who apart from saying

that they are there in vedas, couldnt point out specifically where

exactly they are located.

[Guest guest]

> 1. In this age, the offenses made by mind do not bring any bad

reaction.

> Only those made by actions bring reactions.

>

> 2. The life span of a person is designed such that it is just

sufficient

> for a person who uses it completely to go back to godhead.

>

> 3. In the age of kaliyuga, the effect of kali is first and fast

felt in

> the holy places.

>

> I am hoping that there are some verses for the above

> translations. I heard these translations from others, who apart

from saying

> that they are there in vedas, couldnt point out specifically where

> exactly they are located.

 

Haribol,

 

This is the difficulty with quoting translations only (as too many

neophyte devotees are prone to doing), without original Sanskrit or

verse numbers. It's extremely difficult to find verses based on

translation alone, especially since no books (including Srila

Prabhupada's books) list verses in the index by English translation.

 

Those devotees who speak these statements should be questioned as to

their whereabouts in shaastra; English translations by themselves

should not suffice as shaastric pramaana. It's simply not feasible to

track down statements based on translation alone. Too many of us do

this without really thinking - we just say "oh this is in Vedas" and

don't even bother to quote anything other than an alleged

translation. Worse, we behave as if quoting Sanskrit is only for

scholars. It's not that at all; the simple fact is that you can't

really expect someone to accept your evidence if he has no way of

verifying it. We really should remember this, and put it into

practice.

 

That being said, I don't recognize any of the three statements given.

I saw #1 stated in one of Satyaraja dasa's books, but again there too

it was stated without explicit shaastric pramaana. #2 sounds like

something Srila Prabhupada would write in one of his Bhaagavatam

purports. I'm totally clueless on #3. Perhaps others might recognize

one or more of these statements. Vedabase might also be a good place

to look.

 

Yours,

 

Krishna

[Guest guest]

Dear Vaishnavas,

I hope no offense is taken by my following remarks, and I beg your

correction where appropriate.

1. In this age, the offenses made by mind do not bring any bad reaction.

> Only those made by actions bring reactions.

>

* I have heard this stated by several devotees, and I have never been able

to understand it. Our actions are dictated by our minds. If my mind thinks

offensive thoughts, I will certainly engage in offensive behavior. I may be

able to counter an offensive thought with a non-offensive thought or a less

offensive thought, but these will combine to determine my actions.

 

> 2. The life span of a person is designed such that it is just sufficient

> for a person who uses it completely to go back to godhead.

* This would seem to indicate that I'm is doomed to stay in the material

world for a very long time, and I will have lots of company. Who can do

this?

 

> 3. In the age of kaliyuga, the effect of kali is first and fast

felt in the holy places.

* If that were true, I would have to conclude that I'm living in a holy

land, which is quite contrary to the appearance.

Hare Krishna

Sincerely,

Paul Howard