Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 > BHAGAVAD-GITA 2:12 > > na tv evaham jatu nasam > na tvam neme janadhipah > na caiva na bhavisyamah > sarve vayam atah param > > TRANSLATION > > Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these > kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be. > > PURPORT > > loses all importance. The Mayavadi argues that the plurality mentioned > in this verse is conventional and that it refers to the body. But > previous to this verse such a bodily conception is already condemned. > After condemning the bodily conception of the living entities, how was > it possible for Krsna to place a conventional proposition on the body > again? Can someone please elaborate and explain what is meant by 'plurality mentioned in this verse is conventional' in the purport to the verse? your servant shashika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2001 Report Share Posted September 20, 2001 On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Shashika Chowdhary wrote: > > TRANSLATION > > Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these > > kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be. > > > > PURPORT > > . . . The Mayavadi argues that the plurality mentioned > > in this verse is conventional and that it refers to the body. But > > previous to this verse such a bodily conception is already condemned. > > After condemning the bodily conception of the living entities, how was > > it possible for Krsna to place a conventional proposition on the body > > again? > Can someone please elaborate and explain what is meant by 'plurality > mentioned in this verse is conventional' in the purport to the verse? I gather that it refers to Shankara's postulation of two levels of perception--vyavaharika (relative, worldly, conventional) and paramarthika (absolute, spiritual and transcendental); the mayavadi claims that the existence of many discreet jivas is merely a worldly function (i.e., it's vyavaharika), and that it has no validity in the paramarthika realm. But that postulation reads much more into this verse than Lord Krsna Himself explicitly says. And as Srila Prabhupada points out, in making such an assertion, Krsna would negate the position He just established. The conclusion is that the innumerable jiva souls are eternally and absolutely distinct, plural. Mukunda Datta dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.