Guest guest Posted October 27, 2001 Report Share Posted October 27, 2001 achintya, "M. Tandy" <mpt@u...> wrote: > > Here is a website from a Nimbarka sampradaya temple now being built in > New Delhi. It contains several interesting pictures and links. > > http://www.golokdham.org/main.html Check out the "Text Excerpts from Shri Golok Gatha Sri Nimbarka Sampradaya" on the left hand side. Therein I found this excerpt: akamah sarvakamo va moksha-kama udaradhih tivrena bhakti yogena yajeta purusham param (Shrimad Bhagvatam 2.3.10) "One may have all kinds of material desires or be devoid of all desires or desire to merge in the impersonal brahman, in all circumstances one should worship Sri Hari, the supreme personality of Godhead Sri Krishna, with loving devotion through any of His names." I was intrigued that these Nimbarka Vaishnavas also have a concept of "merging into impersonal Brahman," especially given the fact that Sri Vaishnavas and Maadhvas do not accept such a thing to be possible. Actually, though, on second thought, it seems that this translation is probably a carbon-copy of Srila PRabhupada's. Terms like "Supreme Personality of Godhead" are vintage Prabhupada. - K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2001 Report Share Posted October 28, 2001 On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Hari Krishna Susarla wrote: > I was intrigued that these Nimbarka Vaishnavas also have a concept > of "merging into impersonal Brahman," especially given the fact that > Sri Vaishnavas and Maadhvas do not accept such a thing to be > possible. It's also interesting that they also quote the "sampradaya-vihina ye" verse of Gaura-ganoddesa-dipika, as well as the well known sloka, "vancha-kalpa-tarubhyas ca." Moreover, they cite an important but less known verse following the "Prayers by the Personified Vedas" section of the Bhagavata (i.e., "harir hi nirguNaH sAkSAt..." 10.88.5): "Lord Hari, however, has no connection with the material modes. He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the all-seeing eternal witness, who is transcendental to material nature. One who worships Him becomes similarly free from the material modes." This verse affirms the idea that Lord Hari is "nirguna" (devoid of mundane qualities), although Bhagavan is often labelled "saguna" (having qualities) by those who so adopt Sankara's terminology. I did a search through the Bhagavatam, but couldn't find any verses using the term saguna as a referent to Bhagavan; the notion also seems unacceptable to Gaudiya acaryas, at least, as far as I am aware. But this verse also affirms that even the Lord's devotees (like devotional service itself) are wholly transcendental and unsullied by (the three) mundane qualities. It's negative perhaps, but quite explicit. > Actually, though, on second thought, it seems that this translation > is probably a carbon-copy of Srila PRabhupada's. Terms like "Supreme > Personality of Godhead" are vintage Prabhupada. The influence of ISKCON is palpable in almost any vaishnava group nowadays. The aforementoned site also features a section on "ISKCON art." But I like the bell that rings as you enter the site. :-) MDd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2001 Report Share Posted October 29, 2001 achintya, "M. Tandy" <mpt@u...> wrote: > The influence of ISKCON is palpable in almost any vaishnava group > nowadays. The aforementoned site also features a section on "ISKCON > art." And we have Srila Prabhupada to thank for his tireless efforts to spread the teachings of Gauranga Mahaprabhu throughout the whole world, in such a way that other "groups" refer to ISKCON or ISKCON literature to explain their own respective positions. JAI SRILA PRABHUPADA !!!!! Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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